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[graciegrace]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Not to hate or anything, but if there were same sex romance in ME3, I wouldn't buy the game. I'm not spending $60 for that.

why play any of them, considering ME1 and ME2 had Lesbians

[Nodscouter]

Technically, you could argue that Kelly was the only lesbian, but agreed.

[Fairhammer]

Nodscouter wrote...

Technically, you could argue that Kelly was the only lesbian, but agreed.

Technically she's bi, canonwise...
It wont be realistic somehow if EVERYBODAY is GAY for Shep on the Ship.
Don't get me wrong, Femshep and Tali is one of the romances I really want to see but will probably never happen.
Bioware made no (real) ss relationships. Just the pseudolesbian one one and Kelly as a fling (Fling just imho).
They may add ss LI's in ME 3 but I highly doubt it.

But to stick with the topic, I think that there are some crossspecies childreen excluding the asari but not between humans and the LIs from ME 2.

Modifié par Fairhammer, 14 mars 2011 - 08:39 .

[Nodscouter]

Fairhammer wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Technically, you could argue that Kelly was the only lesbian, but agreed.

It wont be realistic somehow if EVERYBODAY is GAY for Shep on the Ship.

Nobody ever said that every LI should be available to both sex's. Most people just would like to have one or two either homosexual or bisexual companions.

[Commander_Adept]

The concept of bi characters troubles me greatly, with the obvious exception of the Asari (Who don't seem to care who they get their eternity embraced by). I think that the only person whose sexual choices can be swayed should be Shepard, and that's only because Shepard's the player character.

If a character is written in gay and that's who they are, great, but I don't want to see a possibility of a gay or straight Garrus.

[Nodscouter]

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

[Commander_Adept]

Nodscouter wrote...

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

Because that's kind of a retcon, in some ways. The characters were written the way that they were in the first place, and if Garrus suddenly decides that he wants Shepard's dick, that would be particularly bs.

After all, isn't the homosexual community always saying that "it's not a choice?"

[android654]

Volus Warlord wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

^ oh crap, you're gonna make the thread a battlefield

^  

Sir, that is why you will not see same sex romance in ME3.

I don't get it. If it works in Dragon age series, why not is Mass Effect? Also you already get that with Asari. And yes, I know asari aren't "femlae" but physically they are, so that's same sex LI if you don't play semantics.

Commander_Adept wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

Because that's kind of a retcon, in some ways. The characters were written the way that they were in the first place, and if Garrus suddenly decides that he wants Shepard's dick, that would be particularly bs.

After all, isn't the homosexual community always saying that "it's not a choice?"

Yeah, if you do it to existing characters, then it will feel odd. But why not existing characters, or someone like Jack who's had a more colorful cast.

Actually I retract my first statement, if written correctly, the interaction between characters can work well.

Modifié par android654, 14 mars 2011 - 04:33 .

[Nodscouter]

Commander_Adept wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

Because that's kind of a retcon, in some ways. The characters were written the way that they were in the first place, and if Garrus suddenly decides that he wants Shepard's dick, that would be particularly bs.

After all, isn't the homosexual community always saying that "it's not a choice?"

Being part of the bisexual community, I agree. However, it's not a retcon if it's a new character. I doubt anybody wants straight characters to turn gay/bi. Nobody here said that they wanted the current LI's to switch sexualities.

Modifié par Nodscouter, 14 mars 2011 - 04:33 .

[Commander_Adept]

Nodscouter wrote...

Commander_Adept wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

Because that's kind of a retcon, in some ways. The characters were written the way that they were in the first place, and if Garrus suddenly decides that he wants Shepard's dick, that would be particularly bs.

After all, isn't the homosexual community always saying that "it's not a choice?"

Being part of the bisexual community, I agree. However, it's not a retcon if it's a new character. I doubt anybody wants straight characters to turn gay/bi. Nobody here said that they wanted the current LI's to switch sexualities.

Like I said in my first post, I don't really care if someone's originally written in that way.

[Nodscouter]

Commander_Adept wrote...

The concept of bi characters troubles me greatly, with the obvious exception of the Asari (Who don't seem to care who they get their eternity embraced by).

That didn't exactly give me the impression that you had no opinion about bisexual characters. 

Modifié par Nodscouter, 14 mars 2011 - 04:53 .

[Commander_Adept]

Nodscouter wrote...

Commander_Adept wrote...

The concept of bi characters troubles me greatly, with the obvious exception of the Asari (Who don't seem to care who they get their eternity embraced by).

That didn't exactly give me the impression that you had no opinion about bisexual characters. 

Ah, I should've been more specific. I mean bi characters who are already introduced.

Of course, it should be limited. I don't like the idea of every romance partner being available for both male and fem shep. There should be incentive to play through the game again as the opposite sex.

Modifié par Commander_Adept, 14 mars 2011 - 05:29 .

[jamesp81]

Volus Warlord wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...

I just don't want them to go out of their way to make it seem like and equal rights movement. the best gay characters are the ones that don't make being gay the reason they're in the game. It should be treated like a simple characteristic, like Zaeed being crazy or Samara being old

For them to put a character in the game that is most identifiable due by their sexual orientation, it'd be pretty amatuer.

Oh wait, isn't that Kelly?

Kelly's just loose.  Every good band of renegades needs a loose woman onboard.

[Dionkey]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Not to hate or anything, but if there were same sex romance in ME3, I wouldn't buy the game. I'm not spending $60 for that.

Sure is homophobic/overly religious in here.

[Nodscouter]

Commander_Adept wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Commander_Adept wrote...

The concept of bi characters troubles me greatly, with the obvious exception of the Asari (Who don't seem to care who they get their eternity embraced by).

That didn't exactly give me the impression that you had no opinion about bisexual characters. 

Ah, I should've been more specific. I mean bi characters who are already introduced.

Yes, you really should've. And I agree, I'd hate to see characters changing their sexuality in the middle of the game. And of course, not everyone should be bi.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Soooo in other words this thread should be put in the fight of the love thread cuz its not about kids its about s/s relations.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Frankly, I do not wish for any additional romance subplots at all in ME3. With nine already, any more will inevitably pollute the quality of them all. I would not at all be astonished if VS was an afterthought anyway. Thus, one can be hopeful the rest are not.

[Pwener2313]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I demand one with a quarian mutant baby now. Talimancers beware!

[Nashiktal]

I don't have direct links as proof, but Bioware has repeatedly stated that they do not want to include kids in their story. I can't remember the reason why, I think it was because they can't do it justice or some such.

[Liec]

Nashiktal wrote...

I don't have direct links as proof, but Bioware has repeatedly stated that they do not want to include kids in their story. I can't remember the reason why, I think it was because they can't do it justice or some such.

I think it had something to do with not wanting to make character models for children. 

[Pwener2313]

Fallout (Bethesda/Pbsidian) did it justice. That's a lame axcuse not to include kids. A post apocaliptic wasteland gets them but not a futuristic utopia? wut

[Fat Headed Wolf]

I don't think the whole kids thing is likely. I may be wrong, and I would be the first to admit it, but I just don't see it.

As for same-sex romances, I have no problem with it. It should just fit the character. Let me explain. My brother-in-law is a writer (not a famous one, mind you, but, he makes a decent living and provides well for his family) and he's always taking about how characters, in particular, should "write themselves". That if a character is homosexual or the like he should be that way because it fit the character and not because your attempting to have culture equality.

If it doesn't fit the character (or they don't "write themselves" that way) and you know it will ****** people off that you don't have a gay character, you still should't make that character gay. If it does fit the character and you know it WILL ****** people off that you have a gay character, you should still make that character gay.

(And before you even start. I don't mean "fit the character" like they have to act stereotypical. Look at Gay Tony from GTA: IV TBoGT. He wasn't the stereotypical homosexual man, but it fit his character)

[Liec]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Fallout (Bethesda/Pbsidian) did it justice. That's a lame axcuse not to include kids. A post apocaliptic wasteland gets them but not a futuristic utopia? wut

That's true, Dragon Age also has kid characters. I suppose they can only make so many characters and they'd rather make models of new species.

Modifié par Liec, 15 mars 2011 - 06:26 .

[android654]

Giving Shepard a kid would kill this series so fast, you wouldn't even have time to react.

[lawp79]

Commander_Adept wrote...

Nodscouter wrote...

Why would suddenly bi's be a problem?

Because that's kind of a retcon, in some ways. The characters were written the way that they were in the first place, and if Garrus suddenly decides that he wants Shepard's dick, that would be particularly bs.

After all, isn't the homosexual community always saying that "it's not a choice?"

Kaidan and Ashley were both originally written as Bi sexual but pulled due to ..........whatever. Garrus originally wasnt going to be an LI at all.