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[Appolo90]

Elithranduil wrote...

Do you edit videos as a profession or is it just a hobby?

A hobby. It is a profession that my area of study could lead me to though

[Appolo90]

I'm hungry for views from new members! nomnomnom. This community is delicious:D

[Galian84]

Nice video I'm doing the self-sacrifice on my next playthrough...



Awesome job! Thought it was very epic.

[Appolo90]

Thanks.. I knew I was going to be a martyr through my whole playthrough I just love the movies when the main character selflessly sacrifices his or herself.

Modifié par Appolo90, 06 décembre 2009 - 05:05 .

[Appolo90]

This is my weeekly not-so-subtle buuump. La-la-lala-la.



What? No one's told me to go away yet ;D

[robertthebard]

Nicely done, left a comment to that effect on the site as well.

[Ivellios goladon]

Great video! Had a very epic feel to it.

[menasure]

i think the OP showed that bioware-EA wasted thousands of dollars on publicity by simply using the in game footage, the additional advantage of this kind of promoting for potential players is that they actually see what they're getting
VERY good work i would say.

Modifié par menasure, 13 décembre 2009 - 05:52 .

[Genraku]

I thought it was pretty well done, I liked the cutting on the beginning where you kinda set up the loghain confrontation. It had a sort of narrative to it that I enjoyed and would definitely encourage for future videos.

comments on the video itself, what I thought could be changed (call it constructive criticism or workshoping for videos = I think not using Bann wolf;s "Will you let all of fereldn fall for fear of orleis?" was a missed opportunity, as its a pretty telling line. Though you may think the quotes you had painted the picture pretty well so hem. I was kinda expecting some of the major musical... for lack of a better term "booms" to coinside with action It worked with Bhelen's crowning (you had the big "ahhhh" sound effect) But that may just be a stylistic choice. Also for connssistency I'd ask you to have your character wearing the same items in each of the shots used if possible. ( looked like an arcane warrior, in one shot he's in a mage robe and the rest he's in leather) It might be worth it for your next video to do a playthrough simply to get the kind of shots you want with the character in relatively similer armor. (I understand different parts of the game the armor may not be availeble. just a suggestion) Er.. anyways before I start just listing off more scenes I wanna see used Ill switch to music =b

Well suggestions anyways, if you want more song in the epic category Iit'll depend if you want wordless or not.
For wordless I think Celldweller's Ursa Minor or any of its remixes would work well, or one of the songs by E.S Posthumous (though pompei is commonly used) Also take a look at other soundtracks (as Im sure you already are) Like 300, gladiator, etc,

If you dont mind words Veigar's Eternal Empire definitely comes to mind (but is also very recognizable, so one of the less known songs may be necesarry)
Stuff by Nightwish/within temptation are also both suitable and recognizable, (End of all hope, What have you done, Forsaken, in particular seem to be widely used for that reason) So I dunno how much help that is.I geuss I could suggest more but I think I've filled enoguh space on the page. Just trying to give ideas anyhow XD everyone has thier preferences, and these may not be suitable for what you want to do, in which case to each thier own. =)

Bottom line though: Fun video and keep up the good work.=D

Modifié par Genraku, 13 décembre 2009 - 06:15 .

[Appolo90]

Ok first.. thanks for the comments as always. I love this community

Genraku wrote...

I thought it was pretty well done, I liked the cutting on the beginning where you kinda set up the loghain confrontation. It had a sort of narrative to it that I enjoyed and would definitely encourage for future videos.

comments on the video itself, what I thought could be changed (call it constructive criticism or workshoping for videos = I think not using Bann wolf;s "Will you let all of fereldn fall for fear of orleis?" was a missed opportunity, as its a pretty telling line. Though you may think the quotes you had painted the picture pretty well so hem. I was kinda expecting some of the major musical... for lack of a better term "booms" to coinside with action It worked with Bhelen's crowning (you had the big "ahhhh" sound effect) But that may just be a stylistic choice. Also for connssistency I'd ask you to have your character wearing the same items in each of the shots used if possible. ( looked like an arcane warrior, in one shot he's in a mage robe and the rest he's in leather) It might be worth it for your next video to do a playthrough simply to get the kind of shots you want with the character in relatively similer armor. (I understand different parts of the game the armor may not be availeble. just a suggestion) Er.. anyways before I start just listing off more scenes I wanna see used Ill switch to music =b

Well suggestions anyways, if you want more song in the epic category Iit'll depend if you want wordless or not.
For wordless I think Celldweller's Ursa Minor or any of its remixes would work well, or one of the songs by E.S Posthumous (though pompei is commonly used) Also take a look at other soundtracks (as Im sure you already are) Like 300, gladiator, etc,

If you dont mind words Veigar's Eternal Empire definitely comes to mind (but is also very recognizable, so one of the less known songs may be necesarry)
Stuff by Nightwish/within temptation are also both suitable and recognizable, (End of all hope, What have you done, Forsaken, in particular seem to be widely used for that reason) So I dunno how much help that is.I geuss I could suggest more but I think I've filled enoguh space on the page. Just trying to give ideas anyhow XD everyone has thier preferences, and these may not be suitable for what you want to do, in which case to each thier own. =)

Bottom line though: Fun video and keep up the good work.=D

Ok, I love thorough criticism Regarding the lines, I do realize there were more epic lines I could have used scattered throughout the game. A problem that routinely arose, though, is that the in-game music overwhelmed the speaking part so that I was unable to use the clip. I know turning the background music off in-game is an option, but at the time of recording I just wasn't thinking about that. the other thing is just that I was a bit lazy in organizing the video =p Next time, I will definitely write down lines that would work well for a montage as I hear them during a playthrough.

About the change of armor. I was aiming to show his progress in becoming an Arcane Warrior. I was hoping it would be understood that he was a mage turned warrior. So I'm not really sure what to think about this feedback honestly.

Thank you for your suggestions on epic music.  I really need to figure out where to find this music and you've hlped steer me in the right direction. I prefer wordless music but I'll look into everything you mentioned. Thanks again.

You gave me some new things to think about and improve on, and I appreciate that. Don't think just ebcause I rebutted your suggestions that I'm not still thinking them over

Modifié par Appolo90, 13 décembre 2009 - 09:12 .

[Genraku]

I call it responding to rather than rebutting. =B

I apologize if I'm kinda all over the place. its late and I'm half asleep.

with the arcane warrior thing, That'd need a bit more set up.(in my opinion) It might distract from the video itself though. since its one scene in mage armor the next in leather, at least for me it seemed sudden enough to seem like two different characters. I dunno, something to show that he is indeed switching armors *shrug* Might be an overdone idea but you could always do the "Fadeaway shot" of character in one armor fading into a shot of the same character with the new armor with a clear view of the face. (I geuss you sorta did that but meh) You don't actually see him casting though so I think thats it. I suppose if you wanted you could show a progression of either fancier lookign armor weaps with fancier more visually stunning spells. (again that might take too long and take away from the story, would be a judgment call) Since its a short format, My thought is have him start as AW from the start and show that he's a spellcaster rather than having his appearance change and maybe leave watcher's wondering if its just someone upgrading from a dress to leather. =b Thats not to say you CAN"T have the transition to AW and the story, if you can pull it off more power to you. With short formats like this video though my thought is some might be able to get a better feel for the character if they know what he is from the start, and changing that role, (from caster to semi tankcaster) either assumes the audience will recognize it without you tellign them. (Iceburg theory.. what you dont see is importanta s what you do. XD) or you spend time on it, which could enable you to show growth of the character fi you wanted. But that'd asume that being AW would change the character enough to warrant that extra time spent. (short version: the way I would do it is either show the transition from mage to aw, maybe a change in the spells eh casts, from long range fireballs to close range cones and what not.. or have him start out as AW/plain warrior and focus on story) Though if the video isn't supposed to be a story video its moot. Show what you think is cool.



with the extra lines being eaten by music, I guess its a trade off, you wont be able to get everything in, so you'd have to save the other great lines for the sequel. XD I guess to get some of them to fit you'd almost have to break them apart so the first part would be before whatever part of the song would overwhelm it, and the 2nd part would after as a sort of "nail in the coffin" statement. assuming you're not already planning on doing it, I dunno if it'd work to have something like "The south has fallen" Boom~scenes of stuff dying o.o~"will you let ferelden fall for fear of orlais?" Would that be a cliche thing though? Meh. I guess when in doubt put explosions and loud noises on the 3rd beat of the song o.o or some other random arbitrary effect for coolness.

Also with the music: the stuff from Veigar, I believe most of the words in it are in Latin if any, so that may or may not matter if you don't want to deal with lyrics during your video (Keep the dragonage singalong a minimum though is my suggestion, I dunno if people could stand Alistair lip synched to the macarana..XD) Another music act to look at would Be apocalyptica. some of their songs take a more epic feel rather than rock, though Ig euss that is a relative term. they may lean too far towards contemporary rock though. I think Hope and Path, or Worlds Collide might be suitable.It seems though like you're leaning towards epic symphonic music over the "epic" sounding metal/rock genre, (a lot of the rock music types are more common so you may want the more instrumental versions like ES posthumous, Veigar, and the like, in the end its up to personal preference though.) As with before, take what I say witha grain of salt, heed/ignore/throwtomatoes at your leisure.

[Maria13]

I really loved this. It summed up the epic scope of the game for me. As others have said I also found the martyr ending particularly inspiring.



Well done, well done.



María 13

[Appolo90]

Genraku wrote...

I call it responding to rather than rebutting. =B
I apologize if I'm kinda all over the place. its late and I'm half asleep.
with the arcane warrior thing, That'd need a bit more set up.(in my opinion) It might distract from the video itself though. since its one scene in mage armor the next in leather, at least for me it seemed sudden enough to seem like two different characters. I dunno, something to show that he is indeed switching armors *shrug* Might be an overdone idea but you could always do the "Fadeaway shot" of character in one armor fading into a shot of the same character with the new armor with a clear view of the face. (I geuss you sorta did that but meh) You don't actually see him casting though so I think thats it. I suppose if you wanted you could show a progression of either fancier lookign armor weaps with fancier more visually stunning spells. (again that might take too long and take away from the story, would be a judgment call) Since its a short format, My thought is have him start as AW from the start and show that he's a spellcaster rather than having his appearance change and maybe leave watcher's wondering if its just someone upgrading from a dress to leather. =b Thats not to say you CAN"T have the transition to AW and the story, if you can pull it off more power to you. With short formats like this video though my thought is some might be able to get a better feel for the character if they know what he is from the start, and changing that role, (from caster to semi tankcaster) either assumes the audience will recognize it without you tellign them. (Iceburg theory.. what you dont see is importanta s what you do. XD) or you spend time on it, which could enable you to show growth of the character fi you wanted. But that'd asume that being AW would change the character enough to warrant that extra time spent. (short version: the way I would do it is either show the transition from mage to aw, maybe a change in the spells eh casts, from long range fireballs to close range cones and what not.. or have him start out as AW/plain warrior and focus on story) Though if the video isn't supposed to be a story video its moot. Show what you think is cool.

with the extra lines being eaten by music, I guess its a trade off, you wont be able to get everything in, so you'd have to save the other great lines for the sequel. XD I guess to get some of them to fit you'd almost have to break them apart so the first part would be before whatever part of the song would overwhelm it, and the 2nd part would after as a sort of "nail in the coffin" statement. assuming you're not already planning on doing it, I dunno if it'd work to have something like "The south has fallen" Boom~scenes of stuff dying o.o~"will you let ferelden fall for fear of orlais?" Would that be a cliche thing though? Meh. I guess when in doubt put explosions and loud noises on the 3rd beat of the song o.o or some other random arbitrary effect for coolness.
Also with the music: the stuff from Veigar, I believe most of the words in it are in Latin if any, so that may or may not matter if you don't want to deal with lyrics during your video (Keep the dragonage singalong a minimum though is my suggestion, I dunno if people could stand Alistair lip synched to the macarana..XD) Another music act to look at would Be apocalyptica. some of their songs take a more epic feel rather than rock, though Ig euss that is a relative term. they may lean too far towards contemporary rock though. I think Hope and Path, or Worlds Collide might be suitable.It seems though like you're leaning towards epic symphonic music over the "epic" sounding metal/rock genre, (a lot of the rock music types are more common so you may want the more instrumental versions like ES posthumous, Veigar, and the like, in the end its up to personal preference though.) As with before, take what I say witha grain of salt, heed/ignore/throwtomatoes at your leisure.

For the character progression thing, I was orignally planning to do a faded time lapse of my party running through all the different scenery at a cinematic angle. I think that would have been great, but I think the issue was that I had to cater to the flow of the song and couldn't fit it in. You had some good ideas too.

I know what you mean by the cinematic dialogue thing It's something that will take a while for me to master.

I love rock music. My Modern Warfare 2 montage uses Industrial Rock in fact. I REALLY love combinations of classic music and rock, but there are so few artists who do that. And most are big names that would nail me for a copyright infringement. I use rock music for FPS games, classical for RPGs, etc. I just think certain video game genres are complimented most by certain music genres.

I saw you mentioned a 'sequel' =P I WANT to, but I am so afraid of disappointing my 'fans', you know? I think instead I'll just wait for Mass Effect 2 and let that be the 'spiritual sequel'.



Thanks to the new viewers for the feedback by the way.

[Lauranis]

Lovely video, well done sir.

Favorited on youtube

Now to track down a video which I can steal the song from <.< >.>

[Appolo90]

This is where I discovered it. It has a link in the description to the download:

www.youtube.com/watch

[Appolo90]

I haven't bumped this in over two weeks. I know there's some forum newbies out there who haven't seen it! I KNOW it O_o



And mods.. if you move this to the empty, never visited fan art section I will be very sad

[TagImIt]

-Adds to youtube favorites- Very nice indeed!

[Freckles04]

Very nice video. The music was awesome, and your pacing was great. You should make some machinima.



It definitely gave me the epic feeling you were aiming for, so kudos to you. I also liked the fact that your dead Warden will be aflame forever...

[Appolo90]

Funny you should mention machinima. I just became interested in trying it a couple days ago, so I ordered a fancy pants HD capture device. Wish me luck.

Modifié par Appolo90, 05 janvier 2010 - 02:33 .

[Freckles04]

Appolo90 wrote...

Funny you should mention machinima. I just became interested in trying it a couple days ago, so I ordered a fancy pants HD capture device. Wish me luck.

If you don't mind WoW, you should check out Nyhm (phrog801) and The Craft of War: Blind by Percula.

[tomas819]

Very nice video. Glad I came across it. I bought the game for my sister as a Christmas present, but she still hasn't played it. I would send her the link to your video but, sadly, it's a bit too spoilerish.

My only criticism (very minor) was the ending part, with your PC in flames. I thought this looked a bit comical and anticlimactic in an otherwise very dramatic presentation. If I could change just one thing about the video, it would be to rework that part.

The only other thing that detracted from the visuals was the repeated use of Shale in various cutscenes, but that's not really your fault.

When I play the game "lore-ishly", I tend not to use Shale, because it just seems too wacky to me to have this unique, one-of-a-kind giant golem stomping about and yet not one of the NPCs in any of the various cut scenes says diddly-boo about it. It just seems too surreal, in my opinion. While I think Shale is a cool, useful, and funny NPC, she does not "look right" in the DA:O story, imo, in any scene with human, dwarven, and elf bystanders becuase no one responds to her the way I think they realistically should. People should be quaking or pointing or staring or *something* every time they see her, and they don't. It's just "Oh, there's a giant golem over there. Oh well, whatever ...".

Very nice work on the video, though. I very much enjoyed it.

[frostajulie]

Just saw it for the first time and ABSOLUTELY loved it! Let me know if you do anymore because that video was indeed inspiring.

[Appolo90]

Freckles04 wrote...
If you don't mind WoW, you should check out Nyhm (phrog801) and The Craft of War: Blind by Percula. [smilie]../../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

That was the most badass thing I've ever seen. I would love to attempt something like that, but I don't have that creater's skillset That takes knowledge of editing, cinematics, animation, and 3D programs. I don't know enough about animation or 3D yet to even think about being that cool.

But you know.. I'm headed toward that path in college now. 3D modeling and animation are possibilities for me. I've self-taught myself pretty thoroughly on editing and cinematics so honestly I don't even think I need a college education for those areas. The other thing is that since making this video, I've learned a lot more.. I haven't made any videos using everything I've learned up to this point. What's stopping me at the moment is a lack of a truly inspiring idea. I'm ready to do a big project though.. one that would take months to complete. I mean this video took me one night to put together.. what could I do in a month or more? =O

Sorry, I'm rambling now.

tomas819 wrote...

My only criticism (very minor) was the ending part, with your PC in flames. I thought this looked a bit comical and anticlimactic in an otherwise very dramatic presentation. If I could change just one thing about the video, it would be to rework that part.

Yeah I get that a lot. I agree too.

The only other thing that detracted from the visuals was the repeated use of Shale in various cutscenes, but that's not really your fault.

When I play the game "lore-ishly", I tend not to use Shale, because it just seems too wacky to me to have this unique, one-of-a-kind giant golem stomping about and yet not one of the NPCs in any of the various cut scenes says diddly-boo about it. It just seems too surreal, in my opinion. While I think Shale is a cool, useful, and funny NPC, she does not "look right" in the DA:O story, imo, in any scene with human, dwarven, and elf bystanders becuase no one responds to her the way I think they realistically should. People should be quaking or pointing or staring or *something* every time they see her, and they don't. It's just "Oh, there's a giant golem over there. Oh well, whatever ...".

Very nice work on the video, though. I very much enjoyed it.

I'm betting you're pretty into LotR lore. LotR's lore has been borrowed from in every modern RPG, which some people like and some are annoyed by. Personally, I like breaking away from that lore and was glad that BioWare did at least one unique thing in DA:O, the golems. Cause you know.. the elves were similar to Indians and favored bows, the dwarves were gruff and used heavy armor, and the mages were all about knowledge and tradition.. that's been done so many times. But I've never seen lore about dwarves turning into super tank golems. Anyway, to each his/her own on that matter. I know where you're coming from, but I see it differently.

frostajulie wrote...

Just saw it for the first time and
ABSOLUTELY loved it! Let me know if you do anymore because that video
was indeed inspiring.

Thanks. I'll come back to this community when my next project is finished, but it won't be done any time soon. Putting more time into projects now

Modifié par Appolo90, 05 janvier 2010 - 05:00 .

[Appolo90]

See the first post for an exciting update!