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[Sharkey1337]

 So I was curious at the sheer bipolar effect Dragon Age 2 has caused on this forum. Just how split was the community on the game? I made several polls and found some interesting results. Now granted I'm no professional statician, I'm a lab scientist, but I do understand the scientific method and realize my method isn't solid. HOWEVER, these numbers match up pretty well to each other and clearly matches the forum's enviroment from what I've seen. So let's take a look at some of these numbers.

My first poll was a simple Yay! or Nay! response on an overall opinion of Dragon Age 2. Out of a current number of 417 voters, 215 (52%) responded with Nay! while 202 (48%) responded with Yay! The community is perfectly split on their opinion of the game, 1:2 people either like it or hate it. Seems pretty consistent with the type of threads we've been seeing. poll link: social.bioware.com/956165/polls/16602/

Seeing such a split in opinions for DA2, I created a second Yay!/Nay! poll for Dragon Age: Origins. Only 172 responded on this one, however the smaller pool gives a pretty accurate picture. In terms of DAO, there were 148 (86%) Yays!, greatly outnumbering the 24 (14%) Nays! Makes sense as being a fan of the first game obviously means you're here on the DA2 forum for liking the series so far.
poll link: social.bioware.com/956165/polls/16646/

In seeing that 14% not liking DA:O I figured it was time to see opinions on both games in comparison to each other. Here I gave voters the option of choosing preferance to DAO, DA2, liking both equally, or disliking both. This is where it got rather interesting to me in some of the results. Out of 170 voters, 101 (59%) prefered DAO, 24 (14%) prefered DA2, 42 (25%) liked both games equally, and a whopping 3 (2%) disliked both games.
poll link: social.bioware.com/956165/polls/16696/

In conclusion these polls tell me several things:

1. Only half the community likes DA2, a severe drop from the first game.
2. Only a third of DAO fans actually like DA2.
3. Those that disliked DAO seem to have been won over by DA2.
4. 2% of us are trolls, lol.

Overall, it's pretty clear that Bioware has a lot of feedback to listen to on DA2. They've accomplished in winning over people that didn't like DAO, however they disappointed twice that number of fans of the first game. Not exactly the progress I'm sure they were hoping to make.
So fellow community members, discuss!

*UPDATE* 4-5-11

So I decided to pop in and saw I had quite the number of updates on my polls, a huge surprise to me as this thread hasn't seen the front page is weeks. Thanks for the votes guys, my pool is now significantly larger than it originally was! It's been almost a month since I put these polls up and the results of which you can see above. Since then my DA2: Yay! or Nay! poll has doubled in votes, while my DAO: Yay! or Nay! and DAO vs DA2 polls nearly tripled their numbers. And you know what? The statistics still hold up, there's practically no change with these new votes. Check it out:

DA2: Yay! or Nay! 
1st reported results:

• 417 votes
• 2% Yay! (215)
• 48% Nay! (202)

Updated results:

• 816 votes
• 49% Yay! (397)
• 49% Nay! (399)

DAO: Yay! or Nay!
1st reported results:

• 172 votes
• 86% Yay! (148)
• 14% Nay! (24)

Updated results:

• 502 votes
• 87% Yay! (437)
• 12% Nay! (60)

DAO vs DA2
1st reported results:

• 170 votes
• 59% DAO (101)
• 14% DA2 (24)
• 25% Liked Both Games Equally (42)
• 2% Liked Neither Game (3)

Updated results:

• 566 votes
• 60% DAO (340)
• 15% DA2 (84)
• 24% Liked Both Games Equally (135)
• 1% Liked Neither Game (4)

So overall, looks like the pattern of my first reported results is still following with the larger pool of votes. If you haven't voted yet, please add your voice so we can get more results, but so far I doubt the currently viewed results will change much. Please discuss!

Modifié par Sharkey1337, 05 avril 2011 - 09:21 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Are you the guy who liked Onechanbara but hated X-Blades

If not

Then I will comment on the polls like this:

Sometimes you just gotta oversaturate the sides man

[Sharkey1337]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Are you the guy who liked Onechanbara but hated X-Blades

If not

Then I will comment on the polls like this:

Sometimes you just gotta oversaturate the sides man

   ?
O_o

[Azzlee]

IThese are interesting results. Thank you for posting.

+1

[IronVanguard]

Very nice polls, OP. If there's one thing I like, it's an application of data.

[Big Blue Car]

Thoughtful post, need more of them here. That's the kind of concrete feedback about responses to DA2 that could potentially be useful to devs and help inform how DA3 will be developed. Mad props.

[Big Blue Car]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

According to the reviews, the people that hate DA2 are a minority.

Are you spamming this dumb point? Don't do that. Don't spam dumb points.

[GregoriusMaximus]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

According to the reviews, the people that hate DA2 are a minority.

According to me, you're a spamming douchebag. And I don't get paid to say that...

[mki]

Big Blue Car wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

According to the reviews, the people that hate DA2 are a minority.

Are you spamming this dumb point? Don't do that. Don't spam dumb points.

especially if it's obviously wrong.

Modifié par mki, 13 mars 2011 - 09:16 .

[Alex109222]

@gregoriousmaximus
+100

[Melness]

Personally, I don't think the results are that far from the situation in the forums. However, the forums remain a very minor and vocal minority in itself.

[Alex109222]

Oh and OP +200.

[Maverick827]

I can't tell if this is satire or not. Do you honestly believe polls with an infinitesimal amount of buyer response means anything? Do you realize how even in the realm of social sciences - which already offers questionably valid information - how inaccurate this is?

[CRISIS1717]

Your test group is too small.

[TaloniousMonk]

Very nice polling, OP. Interesting figures. Granted the pool of subjects (poll pool?) is going to be skewed a bit. I'd be surprised if the percentage of people who purchased and played DA: O or DA2 and then actually used the Bioware forums was in the high single digits. Gaming forums aren't exactly a widespread base.

Still, like I said, nice work and well thought out/presented. We need more of that around here, as right now the general theme is that of a nursery school brawl.  It's a start, eh?

Modifié par TaloniousMonk, 13 mars 2011 - 09:27 .

[Sharkey1337]

Yes I realize my test group is too small, however given the resources I have at hand and the time frame, AND the fact that I titled it as FORUM findings, I think the data holds up pretty well when you look at the forum postings. This is by no means the whole picture world wide, just a snippet of this forum environment.

[Jarumda]

I've wrote this somewhere before, but I'll write it here again:
An internet poll like this is utterly useless, and provides no actual statistical viable feedback.

[Cody211282]

The polls reflect what me and my friends think, most of us like DA2 and loved DA:O, I don't think it's a bad game it just feels like it tried to fix problems that weren't there with many thing, and made problems with stuff I really liked in the first game.

[Sharkey1337]

Jarumda wrote...

I've wrote this somewhere before, but I'll write it here again:
An internet poll like this is utterly useless, and provides no actual statistical viable feedback.

I disagree as these polls were made specifically for this forum environment, these are fellow posters who voted their opinions. Have you not looked around at these drastically different threads? You find people liking the game, but you see an equal, if not more, number of threads that hate the game. I'm not presenting this data as hard fact, but it says a lot of what people (that decided to vote) think about Dragon Age 2. This is a poll made to a "small" community of fans who are voicing their own opinions in their own posts, why should numerical values not count for that?

[NorseWrath]

Oh please he took a sample from the forums. Yes, its questionable to apply this poll to the less fanatic bioware fans, but I believe his polls do give an accurate picture of the forums ( people who really like bioware games)

I'm sure if he did any inferential stats then his findings would be statiscally significant...

[Jazharah]

I like what you did there, but there is one BIG thing to keep in mind.
You clearly state this is a snippet from the forums, and applies only to the people to the forums, which makes it relevant to us forumites.
The thing to keep in mind is that the people that really really like DA2 that visit these boards, are likely not visiting the forums at this very time. The polls you made were held during the time that DA2 was *just* on the shelves, in its first week; which is the time most people who pre-ordered or got the game at release are spending time inside the game, not on the forums. I am an example in this: I started playing the game at midnight release and am now halfway through my second playthrough while I visited the forums only twice in that time, and I hadn't even noticed your polls.

I wouldn't say your test group is too small to represent a general opinion from the people around here, but I do think that group could not possibly include a relevant representatation, simply because the people who *do* enjoy DA2 were too busy playing it.

It's great to see that you took some actual figures, but I can say with 90% certainty that if you do the exact same polls in two weeks, when people are on their second or third playthrough and come here to check on strategies and make sure they pick up things they missed, your results will be completely different; probably also because the haters are done hating by then. So even then, it would not realistically represent a general sentiment - unless you would compare that new poll with the polls you just held.

Thank you for your efforts though, it's appreciated.

[Sharkey1337]

Jazharah wrote...

I like what you did there, but there is one BIG thing to keep in mind.
You clearly state this is a snippet from the forums, and applies only to the people to the forums, which makes it relevant to us forumites.
The thing to keep in mind is that the people that really really like DA2 that visit these boards, are likely not visiting the forums at this very time. The polls you made were held during the time that DA2 was *just* on the shelves, in its first week; which is the time most people who pre-ordered or got the game at release are spending time inside the game, not on the forums. I am an example in this: I started playing the game at midnight release and am now halfway through my second playthrough while I visited the forums only twice in that time, and I hadn't even noticed your polls.

I wouldn't say your test group is too small to represent a general opinion from the people around here, but I do think that group could not possibly include a relevant representatation, simply because the people who *do* enjoy DA2 were too busy playing it.

It's great to see that you took some actual figures, but I can say with 90% certainty that if you do the exact same polls in two weeks, when people are on their second or third playthrough and come here to check on strategies and make sure they pick up things they missed, your results will be completely different; probably also because the haters are done hating by then. So even then, it would not realistically represent a general sentiment - unless you would compare that new poll with the polls you just held.

Thank you for your efforts though, it's appreciated.

I definitely can't argue against that, it's hard enough for people to actually see the polls let alone get them to vote. I'm sure if I were to do new polls a month from now (I might even do just that) we would probably see some different results. Still though, you can't deny that there is a lot of upset people, but there are also a lot of people who like the game. I really do appreciate your post as it does show just how unperfect my method was, I can greatly agree with that, but it does say something when over 200 people out of 400+ not liking the game. Again, thanks for the post, seriously!

[Aermas]

Nice info.

Viva la....

Re-Volus-ion!