maselphie wrote...
3LECTRICOSITY wrote...
I find myself not really caring about the story or the characters to be honest.
Ah. Crap. I think we might be wanting two different things out of this game then, which is why we disagree. 
I'm a huge reader, but RPGs are my lifeblood in gaming. I love it when they combine.
I loved DA:O a lot, trust me. But there were some tedious aspects that they wanted to remedy, and I agree with. Thing is, I've stopped playing MMORPGs because what I do with my freetime shouldn't feel like a chore. Especially in single-player games where no one sees the fruits of my labor!
I think the biggest reason people don't like the story is the absence of a main villain. Personally, I felt the Archdemon and Loghain were very "pure" evil. A guy got poisoned? Loghain did it! Duh! lol. To me, I crave more depth than that, and this game totally delievered in that aspect.
Again. The game isn't bad. But to me they already built up what DA should of been, and didn't follow it. From what I heard they did the same to ME2 (didn't play it because I didn't like the bit of it I played).
True, if any game is worthy of the "DUMBED DOWN!!" war cry, it was ME2. They removed a lot of features ... but I got to playing it, and I didn't care anymore. It was different, but it's still fun. The story and characters left me wanting, though.
Um, in Origins, none of my characters ever looked the same... and they all had awesome gear I found while I played.
There were only so many armor models. Maybe it's the girl in me, but having them all in the same armor is boring. Also, am I the only one sad with Morrigan's sex threads being replaced by grandma robes? That's what they didn't want to happen with the other characters. Their personality was lost in a clamor for better stats.
Oh, don't get me wrong! I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE story in RPGS. I can't actually play one with a story I can't get into. But for me, I CANT get into DA2 story. It seems... wtf to me. But to me, character and companion build the story. My decisions having a real affect build the story. I'v yet to see anything i'v done have any noticable, carable long term effects. All the dialog is either "good" "middle way sarcasm" or "IMA SKULL **** YOU". And there are never multiple options for each of them. In Origins, I could have 4-5 different things to say. Some were neutral, some were good, some were bad. Depending on the choices i'v previously made, in the story hours before and in said conversation, your choices change. Sometimes you end up with nothing but "IMA SKULL **** YOU". This story just lacks to me. Like, the dalish elf girl (why can't i remembe rher name!!) is my favorite. Her dialog is always so hilarious and actually makes me feel like i'v encountered a character whose unique (i'd go as far to debate she out-classes most origin characters) because shes a mix between dalish harsh survival and childish nievity (if thats a word, lol).
As for armor models, the only two characters I had that looked alike were Zev and Liliana (and even she looked unique near the end). If you're going with the identical classes (like mages or all warriors) ya, they might look similiar. But even then, my mage, morrigan and Wynne never looked anywhere near the same. Alister and sten both wore massive armor and looked different, and my weapons never looked the same.
Here i'm wondering how any of my companions can wear... almost no protection and not DIE when an arrow is shot at my 70s pornstar dwarf with an open shirt and exposed chest.
And people are quick to assume Loghain was "evil". You can't blame a man for being so devoted to his own country that he becomes paranoid. By definition, he has a mental disorder, and near the end I remember fighting the arch demon with Loghain at my side, with my main character slashing down Genlock while my others fired upon the arch demon from afar. While a main villian would be nice, I find I got nothing to do but run around and do errands for everyone. This is one of the few RPGs where i'd be more then happy to massacre an entire city because everyones so ****ing uselessly boring. xD
But I agree, we do disagree because we have different opinions on what makes DA2 for us.
And what we expected from it.
Again, I don't hate the game because it sucks. I hate the game because it's lacking any real story. It's like "Ya... so.. go get money... so you can come on the expdition to get money... which you won't need because you earned it to come on the expidition.. so i'll leave without you if thats alright.". Like, the start of the game could end at that point based on the dialog.
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