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[Guardian of Forever]

I decided to check it out and try it some but that dragon is probably harder than who or whatever will be the last boss. Anyone have any pointers on how to wear the damn thing down?

[adamwan]

Kite, lol. This is by far the hardest fight in the game, get you tank to wear it down while you ranged guys hit it but be careful because A LOT of adds show up.

[eratis]

Definitely a fun fight, you have to come prepared, even on normal.

I used Aveline, Anders, Verric, and my Hawke was a rogue. I respecced Hawke to be an archer; my first couple of tries as melee had her constantly knocked back/damaged. Ranged doesn't run the risk of much damage until the add phase.

Pick up some of the buff potions you may have been ignoring so far, especially Offense for DPS and Armor for your tank. I put fire resist runes in armor for the fire spit on my DPS, and Aveline had Armor runes, though realistically I don't think it made a huge difference. I picked up a few of the Rez grenades, too, along with a few other varieties, and used Debilitating poisons on my ranged and Fell poison for the health regen on Aveline. I'm not sure if Debilitating stacks or not- probably not.

For phase one, the key is keeping your tank alive. Learn the Fire Breath animation. When it winds up, move Aveline to the side to cut down on incoming damage. Keep all ranged to the side, always, and at a fair distance to avoid the wing sweep and the fire breath. Incoming damage on your tank can be heavy, so be sure to have a solid stack of potions. I tended to be conservative with heals, and I think I only really needed to heal a couple times.

When the dragon flies to the cliff, run everyone over next to the entrance to make all the little dragons come to you, let your tank pick them up, and burn them down. Depending on your gear/level, the little ones tend to go down in just a couple auto attack shots from archers. With fire resist runes, the incoming damage to the rest of the party should be limited.

I had Aveline running Immovable, Turn the Blade, Shield Defense, and Battle Synergy (the latter I should have turned off, since no one was in range). Anders was running Elemental Weapons, (group) Arcane Shield, and Heroic Aura. Both rogues had upgraded Goad, so Aveline really never did anything for threat gen.

Assuming you can lead the dragonlings to a choke point and burn them down fast, the only difficulty is keeping up with the damage when the dragon is on the ground. If someone dies, rez grenade them. If you wanted to be really active, running your tank in and out of range could cut down on incoming damage even further.

[Nitramme]

Aaah man that fight was terribly amazing. This is the best and most harder fight in the game. I loved it. just like in DA:O

[Nitramme]

Oh yea forgot in DA:O The electricity dragon OMG !!!

[Azarvakhsh]

Having two people able to cast Petrify made the dragon an easy task.

[IronVanguard]

I found Anders on healing helped a lot. That, or running a spirit healer Hawke, I suppose.

[volginwar]

If you can socket some of your gear with fire resist the fight is laughable. My entire party died at ~80% but my 2h War Vanguard Hawke and he ended up solo'ing the entire fight (on hard by the way) because he had about 80% Fire Resistance. The fireballs the dragon throws at you hit me for about 15 damage and I simply kept sidestepping the dragon's frontal attacks. Potions + Devour (from Reaver) were plenty of healing and never once was I in danger of dying.

[astrobot702]

I used:
Merril
Carver
Fenris
Hawke (Mage) Force/Spirit (1 point in Heal and FireBall)

I can't stand Aveline so I go tankless which is not that hard to do since she looks like a man anyway. I used Fenris for the added DPS to take him down for laughs.

Merril's: Auto Attack more than anything since she's spec'd Primal/Electricity/Pariah +1 point in Entropy damage to Petrify/Desicate target of Carver and Stone Fist enemy attacking Carver. I hex'd a once or twice but mainly used her for auto attack damage.

Carver: Full 2H and threw some points into Battlemaster for Bolster and Warmonger for Tremor. Carver is so sexy he doesn't need a tank...LOL

Fenris: (Full friend status) using Lyrium Warrior Talents and Warmonger and some 2H (sub'd him for Anders and used Isabela at one time too for her mad skills (but that is for another story...)
I re-did this fight with Anders too because the moment I got out to the pIt I was like 'Oooh Ooh MAGE FIGHT!'

So I switched Fenris out for Anders just to MAGE SPAM the dragon down. I tried it with him using Panacae and using non-invasive spells like Glyphs since the Bone Pit Dragon is considered a normal NPC and not an Elite the glyphs will tick every time and then switching sustained modes to Vengeance for added DPS...

That the trick is that this dragon is just a normal enemy but you amp the difficulty level and it is so much fun to bring the all mages out for a throw down...lol 

Either way just have fun experimenting.

Used Fist of the Maker and Fireball, Spirit Bolt (Spirit Damage ignores armor and is it fun to use Gravimetric Ring on the bastard....LOL)

Modifié par astrobot702, 14 mars 2011 - 05:12 .

[CubbieBlue66]

I was not expecting the fight and came dreadfully unprepared. No fire resist gear, only a handful of health potions, and no tank.

In the end, Varric was the only one left alive and only with a sliver of health left, at that. I spent the last 10% or so sprinting side to side at medium to long range while the dragon took potshots at me with fireballs that missed by 20 feet. Every time I cleared where the fireball was going to land, I stopped, took two shots, and started running again.

[TestUserSS7x]

Umm, on NIGHTMARE, I found this to be one of the easiest battle granted it took a little long --

Hawke - Healer Mage, all buffs and heal spell
Carver - 2H dmg dealer
Aveline - Tank
Varric - Bow

I started the battle by having only Aveline run up to the dragon using all her abilities (taunt, assault, bash, etc), and everyone else go into a corner of their own and do nothing for 10 seconds. The worked up hate for aveline made the dragon stick onto her thru half way of the fight before dragon started looking elsewhere.

I had Carver attack the dragon from behind after Aveline started the battle.

After half way, the dragon started targetting either Hawke or Varric. I just run around in mini circles until it started going towards Hawke. It went back and forth between these two in the last half of the battle. Hawke/Varric just kited and never even got hit. I thought it was a cheesy battle i could just run around like that. I controlled mainly Hawke when I wasn't kiting to make optimal use of my healing. I let the AI do most of the battles except the kiting part.  No potion needed.

Modifié par TestUserSS7x, 14 mars 2011 - 06:19 .

[DrunkDave89]

I rather enjoyed this fight. I did this with a 2h Hawke, Anders (switching between heals and a bit of dps, mostly winter's grasp and spirit bolt), and lots of juggling between panacaea and vengeance (if that's what it's called, I can't remember). Varric and Isabella. I tanked with hawke and used isabella to taunt the dragon off him if he was near death and couldn't take a potion/heal was on CD. Took me a long time and lots of potions. I used the 10% bonus damage potion of hawke and isabella, and the deathward one on anders, since he was the only one who could revive (I wasn't aware of revive grenades at the time). I'm INCREDIBLY glad BW decided to give you a few interludes with easily killed baby dragons, since I needed fodder to recharge my stamina. I didn't think to put a bunch of fire resist runes on my party's armor. Everyone had the armor/defense runes instead as standard (actually pretty useful, because the trash has MUCH higher dps when the dragon if you get swamped.) Took me two proper tries on normal (I don't count the first time when I accidentally stumbled into the fight totally unprepared and underleveled.) Rain of arrows from varric was really handy on the trash, it wounded them to the point where they could be 1 or 2 shotted by hawke so he could get the stamina boost, and slowed them down so they didn't mob the squishies. My second playthrough is a mage, so i'm not quite sure how i'll handle it. Depending on my finances, I might get tomes and potions to respec everyone for that fight specifically. It's definitely much more difficult than the final boss, and also much more fun. I also think I'll avoid bringing isabella, as she tends to go down very often, and even though she's got good dps, she's not using it when she's lying on the ground bleeding out. Best advice is to be sure that you have sufficient potions (i brought 20 of each type, and didn't come that close to running out) Elfroot potions are a GREAT pickmeup for a post-revival. Might try to replace her with fenris, or even aveline (with serious fire resistance) I'll keep anders on permenant healing duty and rely on varric and hawke for DPS. I anticipate this fight taking several weeks, but nobody's going to die.

[Diego Vargas]

Fight was a joke on nightmare.

I beat it with Hawke (Mage) Varric, Carver, Fenris.

Carver/Fenris died very early on.

I effectively beat it at level 7/8 by ping ponging the dragon and kiting.

Essentially split your two ranged DD's up on either side of the pit and start shooting, when one of you gets agro run that person in circles while the other continues to shoot. When the dragons agro shifts take control of the new target and have it run circles around the dragon.

A key attack was improved pinning shot which let us burst damage into the dragon. Also whenever the dog's reuse timer is up resummon it so it can get agro and continue to focus fire.

The high dragon is also weak to Ice and that skill slows the dragons runspeed down as well.

Modifié par Diego Vargas, 14 mars 2011 - 06:48 .

[October Sixth]

Like most fights it favors ranged DPS. Bring 3 ranged and 1 tank. No one but the tank should take damage and the tank should easily be healed through it.

[Risien]

I didn't find this fight very hard, especially compared to the Rock Wraith later. Mage Hawke (elemental/force), Anders healing, Aveline tanking and Varric on ranged. I positioned everyone so only Aveline was in front of the dragon and everyone else was to the sides. Whenever the dragon moved or sucked us in, I just repositioned everyone. When the dragonlings came in, I just AEd them down with firestorm and hail of arrows. Aveline held aggro with the help of some well-placed obscures from Varric and it was a totally typical tank n spank. Easy peasy.

[blade12444]

i did this fight with rouge hawke ( blades , isabella , anders and seth, It was realatively easy , a long fight but realitvely easy , the only part that slowed me down was the dragons that spwand in as they always whent after anders and since he was is my buff + heal character it was annoying to see him almost die. Truthfully i did not go to kill the high dragon i when to do another quest and headed to that one frist. Since isabella and me where almost idenitcal builds it made my game easy , ( seth only there to use as a cross class combo.

[Edge2177]

I had the ring to prevent knockback and stun effects on my rogue dual wield. I had Merril, Anders, and Varric.

The idea was to have my rogue deal with all the little creatures, while the 3 of them used ranged attacks on the dragon. Most of the healing was done using a combination of Panacea and potions, Anders was using a cold staff and had us all have elemental weapons on, that helped a ton.

[chayrey]

I feel like the majority of these people are talking about the wrong dragon fight

[gamerz_masseffect2]

i used my hawk as warrior, isabella as rogue, anders and verric for long range attack, also anders as a healer and damn that dragon going back 2 hell

[putchar]

carver and high dragon? isn t something wrong?

Edit : now for the smart ppl claiming it was the easiest fight ever. You guys are actually talking about the very first " adult" dragon you meet.
The op is talking about the very last dragon on the game. The one you kill to get your champion armor torso . 

Modifié par Xooczor, 14 mars 2011 - 08:54 .

[DM Veil]

I brought Myself as the tank, Anders as the healer, Varric and Sebastian as ranged dps.

For the first phase just rush in with your tank and get aggro, turning the dragon and letting Varric and Sebastian begin their assault with Anders adding in some support damage. This is is pretty much the easy part of the fight and every time you fight the dragon itself take the time to stabilize your party before pushing into the next add phase.

For the adds I separated my ranged up so only one person would get hit by a fireball at a time while taking the adds down one at a time, Varric and Sebastian kill them off fairly quickly. In the later add phases with the dragons, I just tanked them and saved them for last. It's important to minimize the damage your party is taking so remain spread out and be quick to switch attention to any dragonlings that head for your ranged.

Once you get through the last add phase it should be a kill, the dragon doesn't do anything special that I recall. This is what I did and it worked for me on Nightmare with no deaths (until the last second when Varric decided to shoot an Archer's Lance and kill Anders right before the cutscene -.-) so hopefully it's helpful to some and best of luck.

[Guardian of Forever]

Yeah I was just thinking it couldn't be right. Dunno how early you can fight the High Dragon, this is just my first playthrough and I've no wish to have to redo it all, but I'm on act 3 now, Hawke is my Tank with a 2H and I like to use Anders and Merrill as backup mage-ing, although I've probably not specced them right for something like this. For a Rogue I usually go for Isabella but maybe I should switch her for Verric and hose it down with arrows while I go Reaver on his scaly ass?

[DM Veil]

If you have the Black Emporium you can get Maker's Sigh which lets you respec your characters.

[ashwind]

I find the high dragon about the same as DAO. I have always like to have 1 melee against the High Dragon (saves heals/resource), the rest will be on hold and use range attack (normal attacks) on it - and make hasty retreats whenever the dragon moves.

[Guardian of Forever]

Problem is I've no real idea what to respec them to, I tend to wing it a lot