330 réponses à ce sujet

[Roas]

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...


People like you and all the other fanboys below you is what destroyed this gaming generation.
There's no way they dint notice that glitch before releasing the game. Im not a freaking beta tester, my rogue is totally useless in act 3, i wasted 60 hours....
I never said that this game was bad, but im sick of playing incomplete games full of buggs like Fallout 3.
I loved Fallout 3 but the amount of buggs and broken DLC's that never got patched made me take the decision of not buying new Vegas, it turns out that i did the right choice because the game is even more broken than Fallout 3 was.

If you guys keep buying and acepting broken games and overpriced/bugged DLC, the companies will keep doing incomplete games.....
There's still bugged stuff in Awakening and its been a year **** that. Trading the game wont give me my money back but i can get a good game and someone else will buy DA2 more cheap, incomplete games are not worth 70€.

First of all, I've been playing games for over 25 years, my friend. I can't say if that is more experience than you or not, but by your response, I'd say I've probably got some years on you. So don't go saying I and others are to blame for anything. The times are what they are, and businesses opperate depending on how much they can get away with. That's always been the way of the world when it comes to maximizing profits. Companies will always take shortcuts to get a product to produce profits, and in a day and age where they can patch games all across the world it's even more tempting to rush stuff.

Warhammer and FF 14 are prime examples of fail due to that method of business. DA2 is bugging and glitchy, but unlike those two games, it is not inherently terrible.

Second, you sir need to take it easy and take a look at yourself if you're going to lash out at people who never even attacked you. If you don't like it, then get rid of it. If you don't like the company, then stop buying from them. Either way, take your nerd rage someplace else while the rest of us suck it up and wait without ranting and raving.

If anyone is a fanboy, it's usually the ones who throw the biggest hissy fits, not the ones who handle set backs with maturity.

[MachDelta]

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...

This is totally ****ed up, i started a new game and my chara already lost stats, he started being naked with 63% attack and 20% defence. Now that im in Kirkwall i have 9% defence and 61% attack, and i have more lv... Wtf seriusly this is game trash.

I don't think that's a bug. As you gain levels you need more and more attack power and defense (etc) to achieve the same percentages. It's to keep things from getting out of control, like WoW did back in the days of +Crit % (etc).

[S2DP]

@ULTIMAHUNTER

I'm with you with Fallout, I didn't waste time with New Vegas for the same reason. I'm taking it a step further and putting skyrim on ICE as well. Oblivion and Fallout were too buggy for my taste. However I havent created any game code since the commodore 64 so I'm sure I'm not at fault with the game industry today. And what is wrong? The game industry seems to be thriving if you ask me. At least we have the potential for a patch, 10 years ago we would of been stuck with this game breaking bug and forced to sell it for half of what it's worth.

Your rant makes me assume your a young man with that said, get some perspective. The fans didn't make you buy the game and they didn't bug the game. And all the people posting on this subject are in agreement this is a terrible bug and Bioware needs to stop dragging its feet. My guess is this will take a month.

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

Im starting a new game to test it, thanks for telling me.
@ The other guys... You can fool yourselfs all you want, success?
It dosn't look like you guys played games for that long, i can barely remember any game that had gamebreaking buggs in PS1/2 Gameboy ect.....
I already said that i stoped buying games of companies that release broken games.
Bioware cant even keep their word, they said they would release stuff for DAO for abaut 2 years.
And they dint even do it during one, and some of the DLC was bugged badly.
And now not even after 2 years they released DA2, a broken game where 70% of it is recicled caves and rooms.
You guys take your pointless opinion, go buy some CoD map packs.
This generation is a joke.
And sorry for my bad english.

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

S2DP wrote...

@ULTIMAHUNTER

I'm with you with Fallout, I didn't waste time with New Vegas for the same reason. I'm taking it a step further and putting skyrim on ICE as well. Oblivion and Fallout were too buggy for my taste. However I havent created any game code since the commodore 64 so I'm sure I'm not at fault with the game industry today. And what is wrong? The game industry seems to be thriving if you ask me. At least we have the potential for a patch, 10 years ago we would of been stuck with this game breaking bug and forced to sell it for half of what it's worth.

Your rant makes me assume your a young man with that said, get some perspective. The fans didn't make you buy the game and they didn't bug the game. And all the people posting on this subject are in agreement this is a terrible bug and Bioware needs to stop dragging its feet. My guess is this will take a month.

But then again there was barely any game that had gamebreaking buggs 10 years ago.
And most companies never patch the game, fallout DLC's never got fixed.
I dint say the fanboys made me buy the game, it was my fault for being dumb and falling in to EA's trap with the signature edition.
Now i wont preorder any Bioware games in life, and i probably wont buy any other game from them if they dont patch it soon.
Im 19 and i play games since i was 5, but that dosnt mean anything.

[Roas]

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...
It dosn't look like you guys played games for that long, i can barely remember any game that had gamebreaking buggs in PS1/2 Gameboy ect.....

Most of us have tried to be civil with you, but you clearly are lacking.

You're words there show you are indeed a child if you are quoting the PS1 and PS2 as your background. Not playing games for long, you say? Try the NES, classic Atari, Sega Master System, my friend. You want to talk about game breaking problems, get in the way back machine and play games back when I started. You couldn't take five steps back then and not trip over a game that had problems that made it unplayable or just plain a pain in the butt. If there is an example of what is wrong, it is you if you are claiming that all gaming stems from what was only the previous era videogames. There are at least 3 other generations of videogames before the one you seem to stem from, buddy, and clearly there are a few of us in this thread who come from those.

As someone just said, get some perspective and stop thinking you know everything. Grow up and stop blaming others for your pissy opinions.

I'm done with playing around. I apologize for straying off topic, but I don't like opinionated bullies throwing bombs.

To get back on topic, if Bioware could do a hotfix for the PC people for some things the other day, couldn't they just do a hotfix that just turns off the Isabela/Sebastion buffs for the time being until the entire problem is fixed? I know I could live without those buffs if it meant I could play the story the way I wanted to concerning romancing Isabela.

[S2DP]

Don't be sorry for the bad english be sorry for being rude and arrogant. Pointless opinions? and you claiming this gen is a joke does what to help any thing? Your having a melt down bro. I think your game is not the only thing that needs a patch.

[S2DP]

Look dude your a young man, I'm old enough to be your father. I don't want to get in a insult match with you on the Net. Do us a favor Call Bioware every day and use the energy your using here. Let them know how much THEY are affecting the industry. Maybe you can help us all get the patch we want.

[TEWR]

can we please keep the thread I made civil? I really don't want to see this locked and then be in the dark about when the bug will get fixed. Besides, liking or disliking the game has nothing to do with this topic. This topic is about a bug, not whether or not you believe the gaming industry is ruined. (says to self the gaming industry isn't ruined....)


Everyone just take a chill pill and mellow out. Listen to some music or punch a wall. Don't get all bent out of shape on here and bring in a mod or a Bioware staff person thingy.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 18 mars 2011 - 06:24 .

[DAFerelden91]

Any words when will Bioware will release the patch?I'm so stuck here with this choking little glitch.
I am already in Act 3 and I really wanna finish the game...

[DA Trap Star]

How do you view your attack speed for your character so I can see if I'm affected by this bug.
I see resistances in the menu , but I don't know where I can find my attack speed number.

[TEWR]

DA Trap Star wrote...

How do you view your attack speed for your character so I can see if I'm affected by this bug.
I see resistances in the menu , but I don't know where I can find my attack speed number.

there's no way to view attack speed in the character menu. But if you want to know if you've been affected, remove all equipment and weapons that boost attack speed, along with sustained talents, and go into battle. If Hawke is attacking very slowly, you're bugged.

[DAFerelden91]

@DA Trap Star I don't think there are any ways to tell it,except your Hawke attacks in a slower rate(it can still become slower depends on how many times Isabela/Sebastian join and leave the party) than you first started the game.

[Roas]

DA Trap Star wrote...

How do you view your attack speed for your character so I can see if I'm affected by this bug.
I see resistances in the menu , but I don't know where I can find my attack speed number.

Trust me. If you're slow, it's bloody obvious. You don't need to check a stat. You're movements are Max Payne/Matrix Bullet Time slow.

[Kanji747]

I agree with roas I can do without the perks just give me the romance and playability back. Ah I'm a little mad I caught this bug on the beginning of act 2. This is a sad to sit here and just hope for this really wish Bioware would give some type of heads up to us. PC can do temporary fixes we have to just watch. Speaking of bugs and systems anyone remember the nintendo? Having to blow in the cartridge and smack it back down and hope it work? Ah good times lol

[Roas]

Kanji747 wrote...
Speaking of bugs and systems anyone remember the nintendo? Having to blow in the cartridge and smack it back down and hope it work? Ah good times lol

Oh the things we did to convince ourselves we were actually fixing the damn things.

Even tried balancing the damn thing at odd angles once.

Modifié par Roas, 18 mars 2011 - 09:20 .

[Kanji747]

You mean I DIDN'T fix it !!?? Lol nah your right lol I remember as a kid trying to bargin with the system. "if you just let me have 2 hours of teenage mutant ninja turtles.I'll go outside and won't play you for 4 hours." lol on Bioware related news I chewed out a friend of mine who is a game tester for Bioware. One angry email blaming him and probably being hungover when he encountered this bug lol.

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

Roas wrote...

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...
It dosn't look like you guys played games for that long, i can barely remember any game that had gamebreaking buggs in PS1/2 Gameboy ect.....

Most of us have tried to be civil with you, but you clearly are lacking.

You're words there show you are indeed a child if you are quoting the PS1 and PS2 as your background. Not playing games for long, you say? Try the NES, classic Atari, Sega Master System, my friend. You want to talk about game breaking problems, get in the way back machine and play games back when I started. You couldn't take five steps back then and not trip over a game that had problems that made it unplayable or just plain a pain in the butt. If there is an example of what is wrong, it is you if you are claiming that all gaming stems from what was only the previous era videogames. There are at least 3 other generations of videogames before the one you seem to stem from, buddy, and clearly there are a few of us in this thread who come from those.

As someone just said, get some perspective and stop thinking you know everything. Grow up and stop blaming others for your pissy opinions.

I'm done with playing around. I apologize for straying off topic, but I don't like opinionated bullies throwing bombs.

To get back on topic, if Bioware could do a hotfix for the PC people for some things the other day, couldn't they just do a hotfix that just turns off the Isabela/Sebastion buffs for the time being until the entire problem is fixed? I know I could live without those buffs if it meant I could play the story the way I wanted to concerning romancing Isabela.

Then again your asuming stuff, i said PS2/1 ect because your talking like if the old generations were full of buggs, since you guys said you played since a lot of years ago, i find odd that you guys said that since stuff like PS1 its been out for more than 10 years and i cant even remember a broken game.
I did play the Sega and Snintendo ect. But that has nothing to do with this generation.
Just because you played more than i did or the fact that you could be my father dosn't mean your right or that this generation isn't joke.

Just because your a conformist that likes eating all the **** that the gaming companies trow at you dosn't mean i have to be like you.

Im giving you facts, your just attacking me. That's why your opinion is pointless.
With the old generations i never played with fear asking myself if the game was going to be bugfree.
With this one im always thinking abaut it, everyone was talking trash abaut DA2 in gamefaqs and moaning abaut buggs, i thought the game was good till i got screwed in act 3, i wanted to finish the story but this ruined my fun and the experience of the game.

Its simple if i buy a car and its broken i get my money back or a car that works properly.
With games should be the same, there's no excuses to release the game with that gamebreaking bug.
If the game is not finished then freaking change the release date like most companies do.
God's sake, i dont pay 70€ to be able to play my game 1-3 months after i paid for it.
The patch should be released already, the game went gold a month ago, i cant belive they dint know abaut it, they had a lot of time to make a patch and test more buggs before the game was in the market.
Just like they added the PC HR patch when it was released.

Also there's a similar bug with auto save and the item that restarts your stats and skills.
It makes you lose the amount of bonus that you get with a passive skill.
Example: use the item, auto save, reload and you will have some of the skills you had before in tactics and some passive skills. The problem is that the passive skill is not giving you the bonus, so the next time you use the item to remove all the skills, you will lose the same amount of the bonus........

Modifié par ULTIMAHUNTER , 18 mars 2011 - 09:43 .

[Lee.Andrei]

Does this guy keeps ranting for joy? Everything matters not because it's a machine bug and ranting ain't no help, heck not even a solution for you to share at all. Keep it down, shelve the game. Wait for the fix and do some healthy productivity in life. Pray with your mama, feed your dog. Fix your hygiene, whatever.
Unless you can do really something about this, like hasten the bug fix patch, then keep it down.

[DA Trap Star]

Ok I just got affected by it, the Sebastian one. It seems like it only happens on level up.
My damage resistance was fine, until I leveled up, then all of sudden my damage resistance is -5%.

Modifié par DA Trap Star, 19 mars 2011 - 02:57 .

[TEWR]

I just saw the comments about old school systems (I had originally skipped reading them) and I just want to say I trace my gaming history back to the Super Nintendo and Game Boy. I'm 18 so I can't go as far back as most of you guys, but hey at least I'm not some n00b who gets his parents to buy everything for him*


*well, usually I don't have my parents buy things for me.

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

DA Trap Star wrote...

Ok I just got affected by it, the Sebastian one. It seems like it only happens on level up.
My damage resistance was fine, until I leveled up, then all of sudden my damage resistance is -5%.

Did you have the skill even when he wasn't in your party?
If you did then load a old save (If you had one) and try using the Maker's breath before you level up and see if
the skill gets removed. If it dosn't try having Sebastian in your party when you lv up and see if you get -5% again please.

[V_Burgh]

I've seen a ton of speculation in this thread and others as to what causes the bug and how to avoid it. Do we have any concrete info on its cause and measures to avoid it? I'm assuming I just had dumb luck because I never got it on my first playthrough and I had Isabela with at pretty much every available moment since I was romancing her and wanted to see her interactions to situations. I never got friendly with Sebastian since I kind of despised him, but I was friendly with Isabela since the end of Act 1 pretty much. I've seen some people say it comes from leveling with them in your party and others say it's from removing them, but I gained like almost 20 levels while paired up with Isabela and removed her from my party dozens of times and never seemed to notice anything.

[TEWR]

V_Burgh wrote...

I've seen a ton of speculation in this thread and others as to what causes the bug and how to avoid it. Do we have any concrete info on its cause and measures to avoid it? I'm assuming I just had dumb luck because I never got it on my first playthrough and I had Isabela with at pretty much every available moment since I was romancing her and wanted to see her interactions to situations. I never got friendly with Sebastian since I kind of despised him, but I was friendly with Isabela since the end of Act 1 pretty much. I've seen some people say it comes from leveling with them in your party and others say it's from removing them, but I gained like almost 20 levels while paired up with Isabela and removed her from my party dozens of times and never seemed to notice anything.

Page 1. Bioware staff confirms the reason as being due to Isabella's and Sebastian's friendship buffs.

Right now the only way to avoid this bug is full rivalry. Or do friendship and equip hawke with anything that boosts attack speed and activate modes that do the same

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

Nevermind i just tested (sadly i need to do Bioware's job without being paid to avoid this glitch with my new chara...) leveling with Sebastian and that's not the problem.
The bug now seems to be activated when you load, follow this steps to see it:


1:Get Sebastian if he has the friendship skill unlocked and check your damage resistence.
2:Go to your home, check your damage resistence, it will be the same at the moment since you still have the skill even though hes not with you in the house.
3:Leave your home (go anywhere), you will see that your buff is gone now, that means you have -5% damage resistence now. Dont do anything now stay there till the game finished autosaving.
4:Load the autosave, now even though you are in the same place and without Sebastian, the skill will be on again, but it wont give you a +5%.
5:Go back to your home, now the buff its there but like i said it wont give you +5%, just take your party with you (but without Sebastian) and leave your home again. After the autosave if you reload you will see that you lost -5% damage resistence forever.

So that's how this bug works, that's how my rogue got -50% defence. I guess i got affected by this since i reload a lot......

Modifié par ULTIMAHUNTER , 19 mars 2011 - 04:53 .