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[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

If you remove them manually the buff goes away from your talents, but the next time you load even if Isabella/Sebastian is not with you, the buff will be in your talents again.
But if you use the Maker's sigh after removing them manually or leaving your house (without them) then your savedata will be clean and the next time you load the buff wont be there.
But i warn you, if you do it by leaving the house you will get a -5% of the buff.
But a -5% is better than leaving the bug there (it gave me -50% till i noticed something was wrong....) destroying your main slowly.

Anyway if you do what i said your savedata wont get bugged, just avoid going with Isabella/Sebastian to your house or using them in quests that they get removed from your party by the game.

[CharliePrince]

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...
just avoid going with Isabella/Sebastian to your house or using them in quests that they get removed from your party by the game.

I'm screwed then, lol I love going to my house and Isabella is a constant party member of mine

damnit

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

READ BAD NEWS

I just did some testing and the trick to stop the bug and clean your savedata only works with Sebastian's buff, so its up to you guys if you want to take the risk of being friendly with Isabella.

I think somewhere in the PC forums a guy said that another way to avoid the bug is by always saving with Isabella/Sebastian in the party, and always loading with them in it too (once the buff is unlocked ofcourse).

[0Sion0]

These are still work-arounds, rather then fixes, which bugs(pun?) me.

Which isn't to say I don't acknowledge the hours and work that people put into it discovering and testing them! Kudos for that, many kudos!

Just think that we shouldn't have to do so - shouldn't have to work around a problem that needs fixing. For me, personally, takes away from the fun of simply RPing. To just play the game without having to check if I'm taking the right steps to avoid a problem.

Wish Bioware would at least inform us - be it on progress, timetable or anything related to fixing this and some of the other bugs. But as with a lot of other things in life; don't always get what you wish for.

[CharliePrince]

ULTIMAHUNTER wrote...

I think somewhere in the PC forums a guy said that another way to avoid the bug is by always saving with Isabella/Sebastian in the party, and always loading with them in it too (once the buff is unlocked ofcourse).

This may be true actually Isabella is a permanent fixture in my groups so I haven't really seen if i'm affected by the bug yet nor am i dying to test things out to activate it.. i have gone into the habit of saving my games at merill's or fenris' to avoid the bug somehow upon loading but really I guess the ultimate test will be the next time i go to my house.. since it forcibly removes Isabella from my group I'll check to see if i have the buff (bug) or not

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

Yh just stuff to avoid being ****ed by this bug again.
Im not going to wait till Biofail do something, it will take them months probably.
Now i just hope that all i learned will help me to totally avoid this bug with my mage.

On top of that EA has the balls to ban people that moans abaut the broken games they release.
They could use all the time they waste trying to cover how much they fail in making a patch quickly.

[CharliePrince]

 **** IM BUGGED 

yeah.. did some quests.. noticed i had a letter at my home so figured might as well see it ... i go to merills house, save there..

go home.. check out my Abilities and sure enough the bug is there since the game forcibly removed Isabella from my group

promptly turned off the ps3 hopefully it doesnt **** me up bigtime

but meh just gotta be vigilant now.. make sure i remove isabella before going to my home or something

**** BIOWARE FIX YOUR ****ING BUGS MAN WE PAID GOOD ****ING MONEY FOR THIS BUGGY PIECE OF **** 

[Rockpopple]

So the way to work around this (If you want to get friendly with Izzy) is:

- Always save and reload with her in the party?
- Always remove her before going home?

[CharliePrince]

Rockpopple wrote...

So the way to work around this (If you want to get friendly with Izzy) is:
- Always remove her before going home?

just that really

Bottom Line: you need to make sure that she is not in your party anytime the game forcibly removes her from it

case in point: if you need to go home, go to merill's house/docks/fenris' place.. ANY PLACE where you can "Gather Your Party" and simply replace Isabella with anyone else

that way when you go home the game doesn't forcibly remove her from your group and you suffer the -5% haste debuff that stacks

so yeah... the only times i can think of that it's mandatory to do this
-whenever you go home
-Qunari compound 

it's 1 extra step, manually changing your group not to include Isabella, but still better than all the other horror stories people have

[Iyose]

CharliePrince wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

So the way to work around this (If you want to get friendly with Izzy) is:
- Always remove her before going home?

just that really

Bottom Line: you need to make sure that she is not in your party anytime the game forcibly removes her from it

case in point: if you need to go home, go to merill's house/docks/fenris' place.. ANY PLACE where you can "Gather Your Party" and simply replace Isabella with anyone else

that way when you go home the game doesn't forcibly remove her from your group and you suffer the -5% haste debuff that stacks

so yeah... the only times i can think of that it's mandatory to do this
-whenever you go home
-Qunari compound 

it's 1 extra step, manually changing your group not to include Isabella, but still better than all the other horror stories people have

Thanks for the clarification! Does this process also work for the Sebastian friendship bug?

[CharliePrince]

Iyose wrote...

CharliePrince wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

So the way to work around this (If you want to get friendly with Izzy) is:
- Always remove her before going home?

just that really

Bottom Line: you need to make sure that she is not in your party anytime the game forcibly removes her from it

case in point: if you need to go home, go to merill's house/docks/fenris' place.. ANY PLACE where you can "Gather Your Party" and simply replace Isabella with anyone else

that way when you go home the game doesn't forcibly remove her from your group and you suffer the -5% haste debuff that stacks

so yeah... the only times i can think of that it's mandatory to do this
-whenever you go home
-Qunari compound 

it's 1 extra step, manually changing your group not to include Isabella, but still better than all the other horror stories people have

Thanks for the clarification! Does this process also work for the Sebastian friendship bug?

I don't really know.. I don't play with Sebastian though I do have him

but yeah.. as for the save/load issue i think people just muddle the actual bug too much just be sure you save in a "safe spot" aka not in your house with the bug affecting you...

i try to keep it simple for myself and basically the bug affects you when the game forcibly removes Isa from your group.. and I can only think of 2 places this applies to: Qunari compound and your home.. so to be safe, simply remove her from your group before visiting these places

[ThorodinHawke]

They fix it yet?.....Damn it!

[Testosterohne]

I know it's not directly related but if I can somehow force myself to discard my 60 plus hours and start anew and then continue post patch, will that jeopardise the trophy for double completion?
In short, for the second run through do you need to use a completed save?

As an aside I think posters here are actually being far too amiable and civil.
The current state of affairs is nothing short of shoddy.
If this happened to a meal you ordered in a restaurant you wouldn't stand for it at all.
I may have missed it but I've seen no to very thin Bioware placations or courtesies.
Their games I've played I've loved but they should be falling over themselves to apologise, this is not even close to resembling professionalism.
There are many other jobs were you'd be fired for a similar performance.
Not necessarily the problem but the handling of it.

By this weeks end if there's no solid word on a ps3 patch I'm off for my refund.
Sure I'm just a pion with my measly 40 quid but hey that's how you vote in this industry.
I'm no firebrand and you can ban me if you wish.

I would like to thank all the helpful posters.

Modifié par Testosterohne, 23 mars 2011 - 12:45 .

[Cloud43]

Wow, this sucks, just found out about this but I haven't really noticed any slow down in my game. How exactly do you find out if there has been -5 deduction on your speed, besides the obvious slower Hawke?

[ULTIMAHUNTER_]

@ Testosterohne.
Yh i was really mad because of this bug (wasted 60 hours too....) and still some people had the balls to defend bioware and call me a nerd/baby for ranting abaut something that's broken.
We should get our money back... they should punish the gaming companies that do stuff like this.

@ Cloud, there's no way to check it in PS3 since Bioware were too lazy to add the option to check that stat.

Modifié par ULTIMAHUNTER , 23 mars 2011 - 03:17 .

[HybridWolf55]

Glad to know that I wasn't the only one experiencing this. I hope Bioware gets this fixed very soon cause I really want to finish this game! There is just no way my Hawke is going to survive at this speed.

[DAFerelden91]

Wow,a lot of flame in this post..Hopefully Bioware will take good note on the situation and work harder on the patch lol

[retsmot]

where's the damn patch already, not even a word of when its coming? are they trying to compile up the bugs and then patch it? thats dumb cause this glitch is gamebreaking, it should be their main priority to patch up.

truthfully i had no problems with the other bugs and glitches which plague this game. freezing, bugged quests, glitchy enemies, i can live with them for abit. but impending doom bugs like this, which slowly kills your character, is not something i can live with.

c'mon bioware, at least give us a date/eta for the patch for cryin out loud.

[GnFnRs]

The slow-motion started happening to me with Hawke as a Rogue, level 16, Act 2--during the Forbidden Knowledge quest in the excavated 'cave' near the Dalish camp.
Party was Hawke, Anders, Sebastian, Fenris.
The tech support guy I chatted with an hour ago was very nice but didn't have any answers. Here's the response: "At this time I'm afraid the cause of this is unknown. I have
forwarded this along
to our technical support department as well as the development team for
further research. Unfortunately I cannot estimate a date when this issue
may be resolved at this time. I thank you for your patience while we
look into this further."

Forwarded to tech support...yet I selected tech support for chat? I just hope somebody's working on it.

[GnFnRs]

PS I'm playing the PS3 signature version.

[Roas]

honestly, I usually don't preach for free stuff, but after all of this the next DLC should be free.

[Asher_z]

really sad about this. i got the bug and my Hawke is quite unplayable.
Everyone who got the game show trust in bioware but this is too much. Patience runs out. I don't have much time to play and now i can't resume one of my most anticipated game. I got the signature edition, i was starting to really enjoy the game but here come bugs again....
Dun wanna play DAII until they fix this absurd glitch. dun wanna hear about it either.
Wake me up when Bioware will show more respect to gamers.

[CharliePrince]

 I don't think a patch is coming at all

truthfully, Bioware probably doesn't even know how to fix this GAMEBREAKING bug

thankfully, my Hawke's attack speed isn't molasses.. it's noticeably slower but not unplayable like others are going thru

my fix is simple... i simply threw Isa away from my group

all in all, Bioware's QA sucks horribly ****ing bad to let a bug this massive slip thru production

either patch it (which i don' think they ****ing know how to), make the next DLC free (appease your customers cuz frankly this is ****ing retarded) *or* offer us a refund (no ****ing chance in hell)

whatever they do, they better do it soon but realistically speaking they're so ****ing incompetent right now i don't think they even know how to ****ing fix this massive ****ing gamebreaking bug

**** you bioware **** you ea **** this **** your QA ****ing sucks

[retsmot]

agree with the above poster, along with all the stars he wrote. their QA must have only play tested the game past the prologue, and stopped at kirkwall year 1. "ok it works fine". lame.

luckily there are some excellent titles coming next month. hopefully we'll get a patch b4 mass effect 3 eh? LOL. goddamnit.

[MachDelta]

Roas wrote...

honestly, I usually don't preach for free stuff, but after all of this the next DLC should be free.

Ahahahahahahahahaahahahhaaah...ahhaha...ha...ahhh... *cough* *wheeze* good one.
The days of "Oh hai loyal and rabid community, we luv you! Have free stuff!" are looooong gone because "Holy **** we could monetize this whole thing and make INSANE PROFITS !!! RAAAHAHGHH!!! I think i'll do another line of cocaine off a hooker's ass to celebrate!!! I AM THE BEST PUBLISHER EVAAAAAR!!!" happened.
It's nice to dream though.

CharliePrince wrote...

 I don't think a patch is coming at all

They've said they're working on it.

truthfully, Bioware probably doesn't even know how to fix this GAMEBREAKING bug

They also said they know what's causing it.

my fix is simple... i simply threw Isa away from my group

I know, it sucks. I miss my haughty pirate wench
Especially because she was set up as my designated lock-picker. Ugh.

all in all, Bioware's QA sucks horribly ****ing bad to let a bug this massive slip thru production

Someone's kicking themselves in the ass over this one, i'm sure.

*rage*

There there. There there.