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[Riona45]

LobselVith8 wrote...

That's true, he is presented as Andrastian.

It could be mostly in a cultural sense though.

[Melca36]

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

[LobselVith8]

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

Considering hardly anyone in Kirkwall else recognizes that Hawke is an apostate (including the members of the city guard and the templars when he performs magic in front of them), I don't think we can hold that against him.

[Riona45]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

Considering hardly anyone in Kirkwall else recognizes that Hawke is an apostate (including the members of the city guard and the templars when he performs magic in front of them), I don't think we can hold that against him.

Well, one can wish Sebastian and all those other people would be more cognizant of Hawke's mage status.

[LobselVith8]

Riona45 wrote...
Well, one can wish Sebastian and all those other people would be more cognizant of Hawke's mage status.

The closest Hawke can come to getting an apostate POV in this story is playing as a warrior or a rogue. Otherwise, he's the Invisible Man every time he uses magic. I'm certain the Mages Collective would love to bottle Hawke's ability to use his magic and remain completely invisible to the templars and city guard.

[Rifneno]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Riona45 wrote...
Well, one can wish Sebastian and all those other people would be more cognizant of Hawke's mage status.

The closest Hawke can come to getting an apostate POV in this story is playing as a warrior or a rogue. Otherwise, he's the Invisible Man every time he uses magic. I'm certain the Mages Collective would love to bottle Hawke's ability to use his magic and remain completely invisible to the templars and city guard.

Elixir of Retarded Templar?

*Hawke points his staff at a demon, which immediately turns to solid stone.*
Cullen:  Boy, El Nino is brutal this year.

[Riona45]

LobselVith8 wrote...
The closest Hawke can come to getting an apostate POV in this story is playing as a warrior or a rogue.

So I've heard.

[Wulfram]

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

was there a specific incident you were thinking of?

[LobselVith8]

Wulfram wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

was there a specific incident you were thinking of?

Maybe the talk Sebastian and Fenris have about the apostates in Hawke's group?

[Melca36]

Wulfram wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

was there a specific incident you were thinking of?

Its right after the quest with the Leliana cameo and you hear his remark saying the mages are out of control.

My mages wanted to yell out....

"I'm standing right next to you, you know." 

[Wulfram]

Well, you're not one of the ones out of control?
To be honest, the only occasion I really wanted to bring it up was when he was saying Hawke should become Viscount. "Magic exists to serve man and never to rule over him" and all that

[Melca36]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

I think I would have liked Sebastion better if he had realized my character was a mage.

was there a specific incident you were thinking of?

Maybe the talk Sebastian and Fenris have about the apostates in Hawke's group?

That too! :happy:

[Rifneno]

Wulfram wrote...

Well, you're not one of the ones out of control?
To be honest, the only occasion I really wanted to bring it up was when he was saying Hawke should become Viscount. "Magic exists to serve man and never to rule over him" and all that

Woah.  That one slipped right past me.  Good eye.

As for the mages being out of control line, I'd let him slide on that if he makes any similar mentions of the templars being out of control before the RoA.  I don't know if he does, I use him... water.    Wait, wrong line, I meant "never."

[Plaintiff]

I would give it a shot, but you have to play as a chick and if I ever got to the part where he proposes a chaste marriage, I don't think I'd ever stop laughing.

[Rifneno]

Plaintiff wrote...

I would give it a shot, but you have to play as a chick and if I ever got to the part where he proposes a chaste marriage, I don't think I'd ever stop laughing.

It's not cool to make fun of someone that's impotent man.  It could happen to any of us.  No thank you, karma!

I haven't managed to play DA2 as male Hawke yet.  The first time through I picked FemHawke because I figure, this is third person, if I'm gonna have to stare at this person for the next week it might as well be pleasant to look at.  But I wound up loving the VA so much I don't know if I can go through DA2's series of neverending diasters without that character.  =/

[Riona45]

Plaintiff wrote...

I would give it a shot, but you have to play as a chick and if I ever got to the part where he proposes a chaste marriage, I don't think I'd ever stop laughing.

Note though that he only proposes the chaste marriage in the friendship version, because presumably you've been convincing him the whole time that he belongs in the Chantry.  As a rival he just talks about forming a political alliance with you, with him as Prince of Starkhaven and you as Viscountess of Kirkwall.

[Riona45]

Rifneno wrote...

It's not cool to make fun of someone that's impotent man. 

He's not impotent.  He just took vows that include chastity, and if you're on the friend track  the game considers you to have pushed him to stay in the Chantry as a brother.  So of course, in that romance Sebastian doesn't think you'll mind if he asks for a chaste marriage.

The rival track is about Hawke pushing him to retake Starkhaven and become a prince, and in that case a chaste romance doesn't get mentioned--it's more about him wanting a politically beneficial relationship.

[Plaintiff]

Riona45 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's not cool to make fun of someone that's impotent man. 

He's not impotent.  He just took vows that include chastity, and if you're on the friend track  the game considers you to have pushed him to stay in the Chantry as a brother.  So of course, in that romance Sebastian doesn't think you'll mind if he asks for a chaste marriage.

The rival track is about Hawke pushing him to retake Starkhaven and become a prince, and in that case a chaste romance doesn't get mentioned--it's more about him wanting a politically beneficial relationship.

Ha. And they say romance is dead.

[Rifneno]

Riona45 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's not cool to make fun of someone that's impotent man. 

He's not impotent.  He just took vows that include chastity, and if you're on the friend track  the game considers you to have pushed him to stay in the Chantry as a brother.  So of course, in that romance Sebastian doesn't think you'll mind if he asks for a chaste marriage.

The rival track is about Hawke pushing him to retake Starkhaven and become a prince, and in that case a chaste romance doesn't get mentioned--it's more about him wanting a politically beneficial relationship.

Trust me here, if a guy asks for a chaste marriage he's got a broken pipe somewhere.  

Seriously though, do you think he'd stick with the chastity thing?  He doesn't seem like someone that sticks to things and that... that's not exactly an easy rule to stick with for life.

[nos_astra]

Rifneno wrote...
Seriously though, do you think he'd stick with the chastity thing?  He doesn't seem like someone that sticks to things and that... that's not exactly an easy rule to stick with for life.

Sebastian decides to leave the Chantry in Act 2. If you go for the friendship path you support his idea that he is meant to be a brother and not a prince. Elthina refuses to accept him back at the Chantry, unless his commitment is sincere. Sebastian then waits for a sign from the Maker and continues to help Hawke. When he's ready to make his final decision to go back to the chantry, he asks Hawke to swear her vows beside him and commit to a symbolic chaste marriage.

The plan is probably abandoned when the Maker hits Sebastian over the head via Anders.

That's my theory anyway.

Modifié par klarabella, 22 avril 2011 - 11:35 .

[LobselVith8]

Rifneno wrote...
Seriously though, do you think he'd stick with the chastity thing?  He doesn't seem like someone that sticks to things and that... that's not exactly an easy rule to stick with for life.

Riona45 was right. If you romance Sebastian on rivalry, he will say that he will take back Starkhaven to become the new Prince. He believes that a marriage between the Viscountess of Kirkwall and the Prince of Starkhaven will be the strongest alliance between two city-states in the Free Marches.

[DragonSoul]

I cant believe that after all that romanicing at the end varric never says that he stays with you, i mean not even a mention of his name, just a picture of him that goes after like one second.

The whole ending could be much better, Varrics ending speech doesnt last that long or mention much of anything. Hoping for a good continuation of this in the next game.

[Sajuro]

rak72 wrote...

It's not being sexist, fool - it's a fact that woman do not posses the physical strength to do the damage a man can - unless your woman is a UFC fighter. Even a scrawny 115lb dude can break half the bones in a woman's face with a punch. A 115lb woman would barely leave a bruise. Why?? Is it because I'm sexist & declared it so?? NO, it's because *drum-roll* men & women are different. Men are made up of a higher % of muscle mass, while women are made up of a higher % of fat tissue. So next time your woman is beating on you, why don't you take the high road & walk away.

What if she has a knife? Or a night stick? Is it fine to hit back then?

[xH4RL3QU1Nx]

I wish someone would make a mod so you can have a romance cutscene with Sebastian like they did with Cullen in Origins. I feel that DA2 was a good game for the story and the emotional ringer it puts you through, and the romance options are great. I romanced Anders the first time through and after that Act III catastrophe decided I was never going to romance him again. I keep going after Fenris even when I don't mean to because his rivalry romance scene is a real scorcher!