Does anyone else feel like they didn't explain these three things well enough? Meredith isn't really fleshed out much, and they never explain her relationship to the idol. How did she know about it? What exactly is it? I know its made out of special Lyrium but they don't explain much about it besides that, or talk about the Dwarves that created it. What about the piece that Varric gets?
Meredith, the Idol, and Super Sword
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:16
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well I can't answer much of that but if you take it away from varric for his own good it will get turned into a rune that up attack speed.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:17
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It's made of a fine mix of chekhov's gun and ass pull.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:19
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Varric's brother probably went around flaunting it looking for a buyer, she probably noticed, then bought it from him, and had some smiths reshape it into a blade.\\
Not that she really needed it, she was a zealot and corrupt before then anyway.
Not that she really needed it, she was a zealot and corrupt before then anyway.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:23
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What I was wondering at the start of the fight with Meredith was, "What is she smoking and how can I get my hands on it?"
On a more serious note, I just want to know why that idol is so powerful. Sure, it's made of lyrium, but obviously the idol didn't do much when it WASN'T a sword other than driving people bonkers.
On a more serious note, I just want to know why that idol is so powerful. Sure, it's made of lyrium, but obviously the idol didn't do much when it WASN'T a sword other than driving people bonkers.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:26
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I have a feeling the idol corrupts one part of the person's personality to an incredible extreme.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:27
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mrsph wrote...
I have a feeling the idol corrupts one part of the person's personality to an incredible extreme.
I more got the feeling that it made people extremely paranoid. Bartand thought he was seeing things trying to take it, and Meredith saw blood mages everywhere.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:27
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The idol has a god-like figure on it in the beginning, after the fight when Meredith is defeated, she assumes the same exact appearance and shape. It seems evident to me that everything that happens, the corrupted lyrium, the darkspawn resurfacing and the Grey Wardens inspecting it, not to mention all of the corruption that you see in the world are all symptomatic, reopening that temple brought something back... and it's spreading.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:30
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Just to be clear, its not normal lyrium. Its a special brand of lyrium that is even worse than the normal kind. It doesn't appear to be all that different though, just more powerful. Normal lyrium will turn people crazy, strengthen magic powers, and give the templars magic like powers. Special lyrium will turn people crazier, and give insane magic powers.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:31
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Or they just needed an excuse to more silly-ass jRPG stuff like jumping 50 feet into the air.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:32
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Gavinthelocust wrote...
It's made of a fine mix of chekhov's gun and ass pull.
TVTropes is baaad. Very very baaaad.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:33
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Amainville wrote...
What I was wondering at the start of the fight with Meredith was, "What is she smoking and how can I get my hands on it?"
On a more serious note, I just want to know why that idol is so powerful. Sure, it's made of lyrium, but obviously the idol didn't do much when it WASN'T a sword other than driving people bonkers.
A small piece of it summoned a strange spectral golem and caused objects to move around a house on their own. The idol may have been the reason why the Grey Wardens financed an expedition to the Thaig that it came from. I'm also not completely convinced that everything Varric's brother went through was entirely in his head. There may very well be something important about that idol that we're not aware of yet.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:43
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Or maybe it's what Flemeth wants to lay her hands on.
Step 1: Ensure that someone who can be considered to let the Grey Wardens back in Ferelden is on the throne.
Step 2: Start a blight in Fereldan by manipulating a Darkspawn that is severed from the calling.
Step 3: Let the majority and all senior members of the Grey Wardens get killed so you can manipulate the remaining two newbies easier. Also, they stop the Blight for you.
Step 4: Rescue a fugitive who will eventually recover the idol after the Darkspawn are lured out of the Deep Roads. Ok, this one was a bit of a gamble because she couldn't know who would betray whom but she knew that somebody would betray someone else. And, dwarfes a greedy and the most likely ones to plan such an expedition in the first place.
Step 5: Calculate that someone is stupid enough to eventually buy that idol and reshape it into a sword.
Step 6: Let the fugitive kill the new owner who is eventually a really important part of the Chantry and destabilize it.
Step 7: ???
Step 8: Profit
Step 1: Ensure that someone who can be considered to let the Grey Wardens back in Ferelden is on the throne.
Step 2: Start a blight in Fereldan by manipulating a Darkspawn that is severed from the calling.
Step 3: Let the majority and all senior members of the Grey Wardens get killed so you can manipulate the remaining two newbies easier. Also, they stop the Blight for you.
Step 4: Rescue a fugitive who will eventually recover the idol after the Darkspawn are lured out of the Deep Roads. Ok, this one was a bit of a gamble because she couldn't know who would betray whom but she knew that somebody would betray someone else. And, dwarfes a greedy and the most likely ones to plan such an expedition in the first place.
Step 5: Calculate that someone is stupid enough to eventually buy that idol and reshape it into a sword.
Step 6: Let the fugitive kill the new owner who is eventually a really important part of the Chantry and destabilize it.
Step 7: ???
Step 8: Profit
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:46
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_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...
Gavinthelocust wrote...
It's made of a fine mix of chekhov's gun and ass pull.
TVTropes is baaad. Very very baaaad.
Sad but true.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 01:53
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Eumerin wrote...
Amainville wrote...
What I was wondering at the start of the fight with Meredith was, "What is she smoking and how can I get my hands on it?"
On a more serious note, I just want to know why that idol is so powerful. Sure, it's made of lyrium, but obviously the idol didn't do much when it WASN'T a sword other than driving people bonkers.
A small piece of it summoned a strange spectral golem and caused objects to move around a house on their own. The idol may have been the reason why the Grey Wardens financed an expedition to the Thaig that it came from. I'm also not completely convinced that everything Varric's brother went through was entirely in his head. There may very well be something important about that idol that we're not aware of yet.
I admit, I DID forget about the Golem, but the fact that I forgot about it may say something about how minor that was, I think. Also, you're probably right about the Warden's investigation. Chances are there are more important things about that idol.
My point is that it seemed more or less benign (personality amplifying aside) until it got forged into a sword. It doesn't seem to make much sense. It also makes me wonder if the fact that Meredith is a Templar if that could have caused her to get that much power (regular lyrium-induced powers + corrupt lyrium sword = demigodness?). Just a theory.
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Posté 14 mars 2011 - 02:17
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PirateT138 wrote...
Or they just needed an excuse to more silly-ass jRPG stuff like jumping 50 feet into the air.
You didn't like those sick 200 ft jumps in the air?
