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[UNOSHI]

Can any one confirm this achievement? i mean how to get it. is it with the exiled prince or?

finished the game and saw the throphies so dont know how to obtain it.

(sorry dont know in wich thread form this belongs so i decided to do it here)

[Vandicus]

Side with the templars.

[Edge2177]

Just pick the Templars at the finale, thats it.

[UNOSHI]

aargh........................................................................................................ oke thanks

[Jesse91]

i'll side with the templars this time...even though it goes against every moral fiber in my body.

[Icy Magebane]

Hm... thanks. I'm not really one for achievements, but I was wondering exactly what that one meant. I'll probably do it eventually as a warrior.

[Johnsen1972]

Templars arnt that bad just doing their work to keep bad mages killed, its only (Neo) Meredith who is bad.

[Jester12]

I dont know, the templars seemed like giant dicks. But thanks, this one confused me as well because i never saw any options.

Modifié par Jester12, 17 mars 2011 - 01:59 .

[Jester12]

I dont know, the templars seemed like giant dicks to me. But thanks. I wasn't sure about this one as well. I never saw any options for it.

[VelvetNG]

lol meredith and orsino both were wrong in the end

[greyman33]

VelvetNG wrote...

lol meredith and orsino both were wrong in the end

Wrong sure, but more than that, they were both bat**** crazy.  Good times.

[HeavyArms03]

well that helps out.

[CardiacToris]

VelvetNG wrote...

lol meredith and orsino both were wrong in the end

True story! 

[Torax]

My favorite part about the entire game. A flood of blood mages and evil blood magic the player is forced to absorb just to help justify maybe siding with the crazy lady that wants to kill all mages. Which would include the player if they are a mage. If they aren't a mage it means killing Bethany who was nicknamed Sunshine for a reason.

[Pandaman102]

You don't need to kill Bethany, Orsino mentions Quentin's research just before going all Katamari with the corpses, Bethany becomes horrified that Orsino could have saved Leandra, and at the end you can stand up for her when Meredith comes knocking.

[Elessie]

Pandaman102 wrote...

You don't need to kill Bethany, Orsino mentions Quentin's research just before going all Katamari with the corpses, Bethany becomes horrified that Orsino could have saved Leandra, and at the end you can stand up for her when Meredith comes knocking.

The problem with the choice is you don't know this at decision time.  Siding with the templars would be more palatable if, for instance, Cullen would tell that you might be able to spare the mages that didn't turn to blood magic.  I really wish there was something like that in the game so you can take that route knowing what you're actually getting into.  I ended up having to let Bethany die in the Deep Roads on my templar playthrough, because that was the only way I could see my character saying: Yes, I will help you kill every single mage in the city, guilty or not.

[Swordfishtrombone]

I find it really hard to get myself to side with the templars - after all, at decision time Meredith has essentially revealed that she's going to kill every mage in the circle, despite them having nothing to do with the attrocity. Just because "people will demand blood". That sort of kills all possiblity of pretending that siding with the templars might be morally acceptable for me.

[Bayz]

Jesse91 wrote...

i'll side with the templars this time...even though it goes against every moral fiber in my body.

*Morrigan's voice* Now, those are strong values.

[RyuStrife]

[quote]Johnsen1972 wrote...

Templars arnt that bad just doing their work to keep bad mages killed, its only (Neo) Meredith who is bad.[/quote
Aaah nice. ]

[elmjuniper]

ugh..side with templars...ok, next playthrough. I'm going to be mage haha!

[exile1478]

I sided with the mages on my first play through, one of them is my sister after all.

The bit that got to me was having to kill every member of the Dalish clan to save Merril, considering they were my DAO character's family it just felt a little wrong

[Rifneno]

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Templars arnt that bad just doing their work to keep bad mages killed, its only (Neo) Meredith who is bad.

I take it you haven't met Ser Alrik, rapist extraordinaire?

[Brawne]

Elessie wrote...

Pandaman102 wrote...

You don't need to kill Bethany, Orsino mentions Quentin's research just before going all Katamari with the corpses, Bethany becomes horrified that Orsino could have saved Leandra, and at the end you can stand up for her when Meredith comes knocking.

The problem with the choice is you don't know this at decision time.  Siding with the templars would be more palatable if, for instance, Cullen would tell that you might be able to spare the mages that didn't turn to blood magic.  I really wish there was something like that in the game so you can take that route knowing what you're actually getting into.  I ended up having to let Bethany die in the Deep Roads on my templar playthrough, because that was the only way I could see my character saying: Yes, I will help you kill every single mage in the city, guilty or not.

You dont need to let Bethany die in Deep Roads. If you have Anders in your party in Deep Roads then you can make Bethany grey warden. Granted that will be the last you see her but at least she isnt dead.

[Ollymandias]

Rifneno wrote...

Johnsen1972 wrote...

Templars arnt that bad just doing their work to keep bad mages killed, its only (Neo) Meredith who is bad.

I take it you haven't met Ser Alrik, rapist extraordinaire?

Pretty much this.

In theory, Templars are just doing their jobs.  They're looking for blood magic amongst the mages, they're keeping the mages safe from themselves, they're protecting the mages from when the mob in Denerim comes to burn down the Tower, they're looking for untaught mages and children with magical aptitude outside the Circle so they can be brought in to be taught.

In practice though, in Kirkwall at least, the Templar order is riddled with corruption.  Whether this is because Meredith is not doing her job to keep her men in line, or it is because all the Templars in Kirkwall are jaded by the blood magic epidemic and have dehumanised mages as non-people in their minds, or it is because people like Greagoir don't want nutcases cluttering up their nicer towers so they ship them off to Kirkwall where they might fit in better... but whatever the reason, the Templar-mage-circle system was failing everyone in Kirkwall.

[Ryzaki]

There's corruption on both sides. Orsino was consorting with a bloodmage and helping him murder innocent women. Neither side was in the right.