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[Sacred_Fantasy]

If DA 2 wasn't labelled as RPG, It may be the best action adventure game in history.

[DA2isBad]

I defintely agree about the name giving false expectations.

Aside from al the other flaws in the game itself I thin another big one is that they sold it for $60. The $60 price point would be fine if it was a complete game. But it's not.

For those psychotic few that hang out on these forums year round you've heard the devs mention plenty of times that this game would cover a 10 year span. But it doesnt. It covers 7 years and you have to buy the final three separate. Thats just disingenuous and outright lying on Boiwares part. Just like the whole SecuROM deal.

[TheMadCat]

Don't believe so, game appears to suffer from very apparent flaws that would generate negative criticism regardless of name.

[ShooGun]

By naming the game Dragon Age 2, people expect the game to be season 2 of their all time favorite, Dragon Age: Origins. Instead, they got just a good action game with alot of RPG elements on it with very unfamilier characters. As far as I recall, one thing almost everyone liked about the demo was the reappearance of Flameth. Why not extend what was great with new elements on it? Or just name completly different and not fool the fans of the original? Mind you, alot of the people who complain about the game are the most royal fans of the frenchise who preordered/bought the game right away because of the DA:O.

[Synobal]

I made this observation as well. It's a good action game but the roleplaying feels just a tad shallow, and it's got less things to endear itself like origins did. It would of been better to market this as dragon age: what ever rather than DA 2. It says sequel instead of just a game that's set in the DA universe.

[BaronIveagh]

simfamSP wrote...
 you will learn to like DA2

Because in EA Russia, Game Plays YOU.  

[marshalleck]

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 mars 2011 - 02:58 .

[bluecapsule6]

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

There was a bit of backlash against the streamlining of ME2 on the forums also. But let's be honest, DA2 is nowhere near as good as ME2 was. 

[simples 101]

have to agree with people the name should have been different the game is to repetitive i dont want to play the same map over and over again that cave looks like the other cave also i dislike that its not as open as DAO the fact that its mostly based in the city ****s me i like to be able to explore i also did expect it to be a bit longer i done every side quest and main mission and i was done in 34hrs. i will be looking into the next one before i buy it. bring back KOTOR.

[Upset Goldfish]

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

From what I've seen, most people dislike DAII because it changed the hero and replaced the DA:O gameplay with ME gameplay. Not because of continuity.

Also I think ME1 was better than ME2.

[Forsakerr]

simfamSP wrote...

People expected DA:O 2...ahh such ignorance. But I cannot complain, I am displaying arrogance now... :-/ still, DA:O 2? Are you ****ing kidding me? It's a franchise, not a series, remember the difference between the two and you will learn to like DA2

Without expecting a DA:O2 since i knew my warden would not be in this game i expected more, i did not follow this game like i did with DA:O ( was following TOR) so i missed that we could not equip our companions i found out when my SE was in the mail , i did not know that we would be stuck in one city as much as we are here , i thought it would as rich as DA:O was but with better combat at least that is what i understood, in my mind since it's Bioware we're talking about it would be on par with DA:O quality wise which is not, the improvements they did does not  weight enough to what they removed

[Merced652]

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

Did you ever consider the two games appeal to two different audience that have limited reach into each others demographic? No? Hmm.

[Bleers]

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

New story and new characters are great. Its the gameplay changes and the removal of so many of the RPG elements that people take issue with.

[S13g]

All this nerd rage could power a city for 10 years, If you like it have fun, if not uninstall and move on.

[strinder]

Hawke: What's in a name? That which we call foul by any other name would smell as foul. So Dragon Age 2 would, were it not Dragon Age 2 call'd, retain that dear imperfection which it owes without that title. Dragon Age 2, doff thy name; and for that name, which is no part of thee, take all of my money.

Varric: Barmaid, I want whatever the hell he is having!

Modifié par strinder, 14 mars 2011 - 03:14 .

[DLCZonk]

I totally agree with the most of you guys.... I just finished the game and i started to read in the forum. Im glad that im not the only one who thinks that this game is pretty much a Fail.

To the Question, i simply think no. The Game would suck in any case, but probably less people would had buyed it and thats why they call it DA2... I mean who should be interested in this game as a new Brand? I mean really, the whole game is like a Japanese free 2 play MMO with the only exception that every Dialogue is spoken and in the case of the free 2 play MMO, you can change the armor of your teammates...

[Upset Goldfish]

strinder wrote...

Hawke: What's in a name? That which we call foul by any other name would smell as foul. So Dragon Age 2 would, were it not Dragon Age 2 call'd, retain that dear imperfection which it owes without that title. Dragon Age 2, doff thy name; and for that name, which is no part of thee, take all of my money.

Varric: Barmaid, I want whatever the hell he is having!

If I could buy you a beer from here, I would.

THIS RIGHT HERE.

If DA II were named something else, and was allowed to stand on it's own merits, instead of riding on the coat-tails of DA: O, The flaws of the game would have been called out from the very start. Instead, they are dismissed.

[marshalleck]

Bleers wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

New story and new characters are great. Its the gameplay changes and the removal of so many of the RPG elements that people take issue with.

And the exact same could be said--and has been, repeatedly--of ME2. 

DA2 is so, SO much more of an RPG than ME2 was, and yet it's being shat all over by many of the same people who hold up ME2 as some sort of masterpiece. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 mars 2011 - 03:33 .

[marshalleck]

Merced652 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

Did you ever consider the two games appeal to two different audience that have limited reach into each others demographic? No? Hmm.

No, because that's ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of Bioware fans have played both series of games. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 mars 2011 - 03:37 .

[Merced652]

marshalleck wrote...

Bleers wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Hilarious. Bioware sets out to make a trilogy of games with direct continuity with Mass Effect, but instead get sidetracked and release their "Mass Effect Too" which deliberately distances itself from the characters and events of the first game, and players overwhelmingly love it. With Dragon Age, a franchise that never promised direct continuity or a recurring protagonist people hate the sequel for being a new story with new characters in the same world as the first.

You people are ****ed up.

New story and new characters are great. Its the gameplay changes and the removal of so many of the RPG elements that people take issue with.

And the exact same could be said--and has been, repeatedly--of ME2. 

DA2 is so, SO much more of an RPG than ME2 was, and yet it's being shat all over by many of the same people who hold up ME2 as some sort of masterpiece. 

The reasoning for this is much more complex than i'm going to make it seem. But i don't think a third person space shooter psuedo rpg could be approached with the same level of rpg expectations as a game more rooted in a traditional fantasy rpg setting like DA. That said, i hated on me2 with the rest of them when they gutted the rpg elements. However, from the very begining of me1 i was more interested in that franchise for its cinematic feel and play than i was particularly of its "deep" RPG elements. When those were removed in me2 i wasn't happy about, but the core reason for why i even tried the game was intact.

I can't say that of DA2.

Modifié par Merced652, 14 mars 2011 - 03:41 .

[i love fire]

If the story was acually good and the game acually lasted more then 25 to 30 hours i would have been happy. but the story was like they picked out diff chapters in a hat at random and said lets go with that dragon age 2 story made little to no sense. It was boring it felt as if you accomplished nothing in the game, the ending was so stupid lol and if you play again theres no way to get a different ending i mean any choices you choose just revolves around the same path, Did they really expect this game to be good or did they know it was gonna be a pile of garbage

[ApplesauceBandit]

The title was misleading, I can admit i expected it to be an actual Sequel to DAO, like further continuing the story, which i suppose it does in someway, except with a new character..and barely any connection to the original story from Origins save for a few minor appearances made by original origins characters and mentions of The Warden(Import save doesn't really make much of a difference)
Not gonna lie, would have loved to continue the story with my Warden

[scq]

Upset Goldfish wrote...

If they had released this as a more action-based spinoff that described the events of another heroic man named Hawke whilst your warden was off to destroy the blight, this would have caused less of an outrage.

When the said it was announced Dragon Age II, people expected their hero to return, an identical playstyle to the first, and imported saves that actually meant something, which is why DAII was a bit of a shocker when it launched.

In summary, yes, this should have been released as a standalone title set in the Dragon Age Universe.

Otherwise, it's like announcing that in ME3, we'll be playing the British sniper guy from the trailer, whilst Shepard is off saving the galaxy somewhere else. It just isn't right.

Well put. I guess EA/Bioware wanted to include it into the DA franchise by the common practise of slapping a II to it, but it probably wouldn't be so poorly received by DA:O diehards if it was named DA: something else.

The naming really doesn't make much sense aside from a marketing standpoint. The first game was Origins which helped set the backdrop to the "Dragon Age" of Thedas, and this game is just another story set contemporary to the blight and in the same continent. I think people would be more forgiving of big changes and gameplay/stylistic experimentation if they could just accept that DA2 is just the rise to power of an individual named Hawke that happened to take place north of Ferelden as opposed to some sort of contination of the first game.

Modifié par scq, 14 mars 2011 - 04:12 .

[TJSolo]

I agree that if EA Bioware abandons the sequential numbering of sequels some of the perception problems with drastically changing sequels to attract different gamers into an ongoing series would be altered.