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What will happen if you romance both merrill and isabela


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Im headed down that path. I already slept with isabela and have almost full friend ship with merrill and have been flirting with both.

Will it be another thing where they both ask me to choose....

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Lets hope not ;)

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I did the same; in the end, Merrill moved in and I never heard from Isabella again on the matter. I assume because pursuing a romance with Merrill pretty much immediately causes her to move in with you that ends all other relationships.

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Yeah, I was trying to romance Issy. I had no intention of chatting up Merrill, I was just trying to be outright mean to the girl. Next thing I know she's a fixture in my home and I lost my shot at Issy. lol. Next playthrough I'm telling Merrill to F-off every chance I get. lol.

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Lincthra wrote...

Yeah, I was trying to romance Issy. I had no intention of chatting up Merrill, I was just trying to be outright mean to the girl. Next thing I know she's a fixture in my home and I lost my shot at Issy. lol. Next playthrough I'm telling Merrill to F-off every chance I get. lol.

Is merrill's romance not interesting or end well?

No spoilers though please.

but cant i just tell merrill not to move and end it with her then i can still romance isabela

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game remembers one romance option... but you can develop multiple.

I started romancing Isabella (hoping she will take off atleast something :/ ),
when she said "its just sex no feelings" I got to romance Anders (quite unexpected,
once it appeared so I was clicking and clicking and voila, he loves me and lived with me)

When Isabella asked me if ill be with her on ship, I said yes,
when Anders asked me if ill be running with him, I said no,

Bam, in the ending Isabella was my L.I., yet I banged both of them.

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xnoxiousx wrote...

Im headed down that path. I already slept with isabela and have almost full friend ship with merrill and have been flirting with both.

Will it be another thing where they both ask me to choose....


If Merrill lives with you, the Isabela romance never really happens.

But your game can bug anyway and say that the two of you ended up together in the epilogue.

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Also the game sort of recalls it. I slept with Isabella before doing the whole relationship with Merrill thing. There have been several jokes about me sleeping with Isabella (primarily from Anders) and Isabella has made several jokes about the fling as well. It doesn't seem to keep it as a 'romance' option, but it does add some flavor commentary.

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XBOX 360.... On my second play through, for the sake of getting achievements, this is what i did to get multi romance. In act 2 left Merrill final “questioning belief” undone, then started act 3, started on the loose by visiting Hawk's estate and reading letter, then went to Hangman, then went back to Hawk estate then started “no rest for the wicked” (isa quest) once done went to hangman, did the romance with Isa, got the i love you and romance stuff. Last went to Merrill Hut, then spoke to her the 3 times to complete her “Old questioning belief” quest, after talking to her a few times went back to Hawk's estate, then what do you know, Merrill showed up and gave the option to get busy..... So there you have it 2 romances with at the same time. Keep in mind i have not finished the game yet so i do not know how this will affect the end game conversation. Hope this helps you all

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PS on your next cut scene with Isab just make sure to tell her "she is the only one" when she ask about Merrill lol

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Merrill (along with Anders) is a romantic juggernaut. Sleeping with her is intended to end any relationship you have with Fenris or Isabela (which it usually does, but occasionally does not if you tell her it was only a fling). There's a known bug where Varric names the first person you initiated a romance with during the ending, rather than the person you actually completed it with. Going after both Isabela and Merrill can put the game into a weird bugged state where Isabela's romance is active for only her conversations, but she will behave as if she is not romanced in situations such as the Zevran cameo.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 09 avril 2011 - 05:09 .


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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Merrill (along with Anders) is a romantic juggernaut. Sleeping with her is intended to end any relationship you have with Fenris or Isabela (which it usually does, but occasionally does not if you tell her it was only a fling). There's a known bug where Varric names the first person you initiated a romance with during the ending, rather than the person you actually completed it with. Going after both Isabela and Merrill can put the game into a weird bugged state where Isabela's romance is active for only her conversations, but she will behave as if she is not romanced in situations such as the Zevran cameo.

Oh, interesting. Couple of questions (if you know the answers!):

1. Is romanced Isabela supposed to act different during the Zevran cameo?
2. Anders broke up with my Hawke after the Fade and told her to put her advances on Merrill instead. Obviously Merrill's flirt icons were gone because of Anders' romance being a juggernaut. Working as intended or a bug? I just thought it was odd that he dumped my Hawke and the door was closed on everyone else.

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Gilsa wrote...

1. Is romanced Isabela supposed to act different during the Zevran cameo?


She invites you along, and you can tell her to not do it.

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Gilsa wrote...

1. Is romanced Isabela supposed to act different during the Zevran cameo?


She complies if Hawke says she shouldn't sleep with Zevran. But wants some sex later with Hawke to make up for it. Posted Image 

The Angry One wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

1. Is romanced Isabela supposed to act different during the Zevran cameo?


She invites you along, and you can tell her to not do it.


She only invites you if you're in a romance? I thought... Isabela being Isabela... Posted Image

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 09 avril 2011 - 09:13 .


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Ah ha, I see. I had only taken her to the Zevran encounter once (while romanced). I thought she would be reluctant to join Zevran just as a romanced Zevran was supposed to be reluctant to sleep with Hawke. Well, thanks for the invite, Isabela! =p

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TobiTobsen wrote...
She only invites you if you're in a romance? I thought... Isabela being Isabela... Posted Image


Nope she runs off with Zevran before you can say a word. Doesn't even let Hawke have a go after.

Gilsa wrote...

Ah ha, I see. I had only taken her to the
Zevran encounter once (while romanced). I thought she would be reluctant
to join Zevran just as a romanced Zevran was supposed to be reluctant
to sleep with Hawke. Well, thanks for the invite, Isabela! =p


Zevran seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love. He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.

Modifié par The Angry One, 09 avril 2011 - 09:17 .


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The Angry One wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...
She only invites you if you're in a romance? I thought... Isabela being Isabela... Posted Image


Nope she runs off with Zevran before you can say a word. Doesn't even let Hawke have a go after.

Gilsa wrote...

Ah ha, I see. I had only taken her to the
Zevran encounter once (while romanced). I thought she would be reluctant
to join Zevran just as a romanced Zevran was supposed to be reluctant
to sleep with Hawke. Well, thanks for the invite, Isabela! =p


Zevran seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love. He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.


Zevran does appear to be the one woman kind of guy. But he sure didn't turn down a tumble for a foursome with my Warden in the pearl. Ogren got head trauma in the process.

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The Angry One wrote...

Zevran seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love. He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.


Would be interesting to see if she always reacts like that or only with Zef, because of their... uh... shared history. Can I call it that? Posted Image

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Torax wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...
She only invites you if you're in a romance? I thought... Isabela being Isabela... Posted Image


Nope she runs off with Zevran before you can say a word. Doesn't even let Hawke have a go after.

Gilsa wrote...

Ah ha, I see. I had only taken her to the
Zevran encounter once (while romanced). I thought she would be reluctant
to join Zevran just as a romanced Zevran was supposed to be reluctant
to sleep with Hawke. Well, thanks for the invite, Isabela! =p


Zevran seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love. He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.


Zevran does appear to be the one woman kind of guy. But he sure didn't turn down a tumble for a foursome with my Warden in the pearl. Ogren got head trauma in the process.


Well it's not cheating if the Warden's there too. ;)

TobiTobsen wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Zevran
seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love.
He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for
you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.


Would
be interesting to see if she always reacts like that or only with Zef,
because of their... uh... shared history. Can I call it that? ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png


Well Zev is the one who killed her pig of a husband and started her life of filthy debauchery. There's always that to consider. :whistle:

Modifié par The Angry One, 09 avril 2011 - 09:22 .


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The Angry One wrote...

Torax wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...
She only invites you if you're in a romance? I thought... Isabela being Isabela... Posted Image


Nope she runs off with Zevran before you can say a word. Doesn't even let Hawke have a go after.

Gilsa wrote...

Ah ha, I see. I had only taken her to the
Zevran encounter once (while romanced). I thought she would be reluctant
to join Zevran just as a romanced Zevran was supposed to be reluctant
to sleep with Hawke. Well, thanks for the invite, Isabela! =p


Zevran seems to be secretly the monogamous type if he actually falls in love. He starts getting jealous in DA:O for example once he gets feelings for you. Isabela is Isabela no matter what, I suppose.


Zevran does appear to be the one woman kind of guy. But he sure didn't turn down a tumble for a foursome with my Warden in the pearl. Ogren got head trauma in the process.


Well it's not cheating if the Warden's there too. ;)


He did say he was handy to have around. Isabela seemed more interested in Leliana than Zevran.

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Isabela's favourite appears to be Alistair. :P

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Gilsa wrote...

Oh, interesting. Couple of questions (if you know the answers!):

1. Is romanced Isabela supposed to act different during the Zevran cameo?
2. Anders broke up with my Hawke after the Fade and told her to put her advances on Merrill instead. Obviously Merrill's flirt icons were gone because of Anders' romance being a juggernaut. Working as intended or a bug? I just thought it was odd that he dumped my Hawke and the door was closed on everyone else.


1. As folks have mentioned, yes. She does act differently... you have a choice, you can decline (Isabela will sleep with Zev), you can tell her no (Isabela will not), or you can all join in. Your two remaining party members will likely make pithy comments if sex happens.

Edit: Oh right, one other thing... sometimes the romantic juggernauts are incomplete in their crushing. In those cases, Hawke may still have a romance going on with Isabela in her individual conversations, but she won't give Hawke the option when Hawke has the conversation with Zev and will just walk off to have her reunion. This is a known bug, and should be fixed in the Big Bugfix patch coming Soon™.

2. Working as intended. If either Merrill or Anders start a relationship, all other romances are shut down. I believe the only way to have another romance post juggernaut headcrush is to actually not initiate one until after the smash has happened. This isn't particularly easy, but it is doable. For what it's worth, I'm not sure that this is entirely possible.

TobiTobsen wrote...

Would
be interesting to see if she always reacts like that or only with Zef,
because of their... uh... shared history. Can I call it that? ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png


There's no clear evidence, but if Hawke romances Isabela, she won't have her 'sleeping with Fenris' banter in act 3. Whether this is because Fenris wouldn't do it out of respect to Hawke, or that she's happy enough being with Hawke not to stray is anybody's guess. I guess it's up to the player's interpretation of the matter.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 09 avril 2011 - 09:30 .


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Torax wrote...

He did say he was handy to have around. Isabela seemed more interested in Leliana than Zevran.


Isabela always strikes me to be more into female "companions" than male. But variety never hurts Posted Image

hoorayforicecream wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Would
be interesting to see if she always reacts like that or only with Zef,
because of their... uh... shared history. Can I call it that? Posted Image


There's no clear evidence, but if Hawke romances Isabela, she won't have her 'sleeping with Fenris' banter in act 3. Whether this is because Fenris wouldn't do it out of respect to Hawke, or that she's happy enough being with Hawke not to stray is anybody's guess. I guess it's up to the player's interpretation of the matter.


Ah, yes. Forgot about that.

And Isabela seems happy with Hawke. That really shows in her adorable conversations with Merrill if you romance her.
And I like to believe that my Hawke tamed the pirate. Posted Image Or at least stopped her "sleep with everything that has a pulse" behaviour

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 09 avril 2011 - 09:35 .


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Isabela's favourite appears to be Alistair. :P


She can't have him. Have to love the response when comparing letting the Hero borrow her ship lol. To a point the Alistair romance is the best when coupled with things like that and the banter between Alistair with Wynne or Leliana.

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I got to sleep with both Isabela and Merrill and I kissed them both right before the end game.  It seems kinda of bad writing to allow me to kiss both them right in front of each other and neither one say anything about the other.  Although at the end it says everybody left except Isabela.  Go figure.