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Possible? Swap Bethany face, model, etc. with Merril


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The Bethany from the intro is totally hot. I think it would be a cool mod to swap that model with Merril's, making it possible to have her the entire game (and use console to give her the creation tree), and even romance her without her being your sister! :P

How difficult would this be?

I imagine a lot of folks would be a fan of this, as Merril's looks leave a lot to be desired. It seems like such a waste of Bethany's great character model to be unused a huge part of the game.

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Anyone?

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As far as I know, this would require editing the models and swapping both the body and face from both of them. The face swapping as been figured out but not the body one concerning the model. I did some test using blender and it isn't the exact same thing that it was in DAO.

I guess soon enough we will be able to at least swap models but I would that that at the moment, no it is not possible.

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Khis_ wrote...

I guess soon enough we will be able to at least swap models but I would that that at the moment, no it is not possible.


The sooner the better, because Merril is an atrocity ;P.

It would be great to have Bethany's exaggerated body model in place of Merril.

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Cambios wrote...

The Bethany from the intro is totally hot. I think it would be a cool mod to swap that model with Merril's, making it possible to have her the entire game (and use console to give her the creation tree), and even romance her without her being your sister! :P

How difficult would this be?

I imagine a lot of folks would be a fan of this, as Merril's looks leave a lot to be desired. It seems like such a waste of Bethany's great character model to be unused a huge part of the game.

This

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Not inherently difficult if you don't mind using the GFF editor to do the changes:

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Now I just need to figure out how to do this using existing gda files.

Modifié par KwanGong, 15 mars 2011 - 09:23 .


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Could you explain how this was done? I have been trying but no luck. Or upload it for us to download :)

Modifié par Vattic86, 15 mars 2011 - 04:36 .


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Wow, are you really this shallow? You want to replace a videogame character's body with that of another videogame character? This isn't even "I dislike her character", no, it's just "I want her to look hotter." (It also kind of breaks the story, but I doubt someone who'd write a thread like this would actually care.)

I feel sorry for you, sir.

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You realize this section of the forums is for modifications, right Shepard?

Anyway, I would very much like to know how you managed to do the switch, KwanGong. Please give us some instructions if you can. Also, I'm wondering, does "Bethany" do the same animations as Merrill? Such as using blood magic in certain cutscenes?

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I honestly don't know how it will affect animations since I randomly threw it together using existing knowledge I had modding my save games in DA: O. I do know that in DA: O, I had switched a Human Noble with an Elf model and it did affect the animations some as the game was playing the animations expecting a Human, I'd assume the same holds true in reverse here.

I'll type up a quick guide after this.

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I would love to know with what you are working to swap the models like that. I did get a hold on face swapping but I had no chance with the models. What tool do you use to inspect the .models file? I can easily extract them and I could swap them but I have NO idea which file correspond to what model. Think you could share? (I tried with blender but it isn't working with those file where it was working with DAO models before.)

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I assure you, it is nothing as spectacular as running Blender and what not. I'm still working on a couple of other things and once I'm done with those, I'll write up a quick tutorial on how to switch the models.

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Thanks alot Kwan, looking foward to see how :)

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Alright, the method I'm about to outline will only work after a companion has joined your party and involves editing save game information. I apologise if you're uncomfortable with that but beyond this, I am unsure as to how one would proceed.

(Sorry for the lack of images but apparently, I've run out of memory)

The Steps
1 - Open GFF Editor and open a save game file
2 - Expand 16003 SAVEGAME_PARTYLIST
3 - Expand 16204 SAVEGAME_PARTYPOOLMEMBERS
4 - Expand whichever companion you want, for this example I will use Bethany and Merrill, starting with Merrill.
5 - Scroll down until you see 16460 SAVEGAME_CREATURE_RACE. Merrill's will be 2 (Elf). Change it to 3 (Human).
6 - Scroll up and expand 16320 SAVEGAME_APPEARANCE.
7 - Now, expand Bethany's information and look for 16320 SAVEGAME_APPEARANCE.
8 - You will notice there are two fields (16321 and 16327) in each of them that are similar, in the case of Bethany it is 1020 and for Merrill it is 1060. This changes the body model. To change Merrill's body to Bethany's body, simply change 1060 to 1020 and save.
9 - Finally, change the value in 16328 SAVEGAME_APPEARANCE_MORPH_NAME in Merrill to match Bethany's and save the entire file.

Load the game and Merrill should now look like Bethany. I apologise if it isn't as amazing or technical as some people were expecting.

Modifié par KwanGong, 15 mars 2011 - 09:25 .


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Kwan: That is AMAZING!

Can you post this as a mod?

Also, while you're at it, how about a version with 'regular Bethany' and a version with exaggerated/big boob Bethany?

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If I'm not wrong, exaggerated Bethany is a model replacement so if you use it, it should replace default Bethany.

Making a mod out of this is far beyond what I am capable of, at the moment. I've been trying to find the .uti file for Merrill in the hopes that I would be able to find more information on it but have been met with little to no luck so far.

The best I can offer is that little tutorial I posted.

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Perverts, perverts all of you!

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She's your SISTER...

ok in a game but

STILL

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Lakhi wrote...

She's your SISTER...

ok in a game but

STILL


You aren't paying attention. If you use Bethany's character model for the Merril character, she isn't your sister any more.

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Thanks for all the help guys, I was able to use Bethany's Body model and Default FHawke face to replace Merill completely. I guess if i romance her now it is more like Self-Love. At least it is safe......

Modifié par Vattic86, 15 mars 2011 - 11:56 .


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Vattic, how did you use the default female hawke face? Which entry is for that bit of info?

Also, this works like a charm. Two caveats:

1) The pillow talk after romance scene is a little creepy. Bethany's body model lacks some neck (I guess because of the scarf), so her head floats above her body ;P. Also weird things happen with her hands.

2) You need to do step #8 again to undo the tweak of the upgraded armor.

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http://svn.gib.me/pu...a/face.filelist

Should contain all the default faces. It's also possible to use the default human female body, if you really want.

Modifié par KwanGong, 16 mars 2011 - 12:10 .


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Is step 9 the face? If so, what are Cassandra and Female Hawk's face values?

Modifié par Cambios, 16 mars 2011 - 12:19 .


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I used the "exaggerated" Beth body mod and replaced her head with FemHawke