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[TeamRyan]

Playing through the game I'm getting the feeling that Fenris should have been a Qunari. I mean his story is just begging for it I mean he gets tortured by a tevinter mage for most of his remembered life and gets paraded around like a trophy. This works well for making him a Qunari because tevinter is at war with the Qunari and what better way to have a grand trophy prize than by waving around your countries greatest enemy as a slave. 

Secondly teh dude is like 5 feet tall carrying around a sword that is taller than him, given I know it shouldn't really matter all that much its just there for aesthetics and not actual in world physics or whatever it would have looked much more sensible on the back of a hulking qunari.

Third is the fact that he seems very knowledgeable about the qun and its practices and even gets you to duel (and my duel i mean horribly massacred by the...) Arishok.

Looking back at what I wrote these reasons don't all seem that great and I'm kinda grasping for straws, but i feel if he were a qunari he at least wouldn't be so whiney.

[Rheia]

My opinion is that he is perfectly fine as an elf. There is a good in-character reason he has thorogh knowledge of the qunari, and if the sword size bothers you, well... I think weapon designs are to blame here, not the person who fights with them.

And whinines is in the eye of the beholder, too. There will always be people who dislike some characters and adore the others, and some who do not share the same opinion. Imho, I think this shows the strength of the writing, provoking a wide range of emotion is preferable to unanimous indifference.

[JoxerNL]

Fenris is without a doubt a wink towards JRPG's, the emo dark heroic type of character wielding a sword twice his size, sounds like any popular JRPG franchise we know of? yeah...

[theradicalpunk]

Honestly I hope they give us more characters. A Qun wouldn't be bad. Maybe this time something not like Sten.

Fenris is way to overly dramatic . Much like most JRPG heroes are.

Hell most of DA2 has alot of overly dramatic heroes/heroines. I mean I can understand Anders plight. It's like being jewish when the ****s where still in power. But Fenris is just a baby back -bleep- for not letting what happen die.

I guess you could equate this emo to a human who's been raped by the opposite sex and resents that sex for the rest of their life? I don't know. Fenris does annoy the hell out of me though.

[Merazaki]

I hoped we were able to play Qunari in the first place and be able to look just as awesome as the Arishok.

[Mifune013]

Fenris is the result of an unholy union of a JRPG and Wolverine (from X-Men).

Not sure why you think he should be Qunari. Short guys with big swords are cool in my opinion.

EDIT: I have a feeling that Tal'Voshoth you meet during "Blackpowder Promise" might become a playable character in a later DLC.

Modifié par Mifune013, 14 mars 2011 - 01:28 .

[TeamRyan]

Mifune013 wrote...

Fenris is the result of an unholy union of a JRPG and Wolverine (from X-Men).

Not sure why you think he should be Qunari. Short guys with big swords are cool in my opinion.

EDIT: I have a feeling that Tal'Voshoth you meet during "Blackpowder Promise" might become a playable character in a later DLC.

yeah there is actually a wolverine anime comingout pretty soon, while not jrpg i think culture wise they may not have gotten the concept of his character down... still looks cool though.
also i hope the tal'voshoth in that quest doesnt look so genericif he were to become a dlc character.
and finally i didn't hate fenris in anyway, I really just wish there was a qunari companion, but in all honesty it probably would have been wierd considering the enemy you faced throughout act two.

[DA Trap Star]

You know who should of been a playable character?
That Quanari Mage prisoner that you had to lead to freedom in ACT 1.
He looked so bad ass, if he was a companion I would of used him all the time for intimidation factor alone.

[JoxerNL]

I found Fenris to be a little whiner, mostly on par with the whinefest comming from the maincharacters from games like DMC and FF.
Wah wah look at me, i have it so tough so im going all emorage on everyone, wah.
I really enjoyed killing him lateron, most gratifying.

[Stormghost]

JoxerNL wrote...

I found Fenris to be a little whiner, mostly on par with the whinefest comming from the maincharacters from games like DMC and FF.

 DMC and FF are two of my favourite games - maybe why I think Fenris looks like the best companion, personality-wise and image-wise.

Unfortunately, I just finished the game last night and managed to completely miss the sidequest that lets you recruit Fenris, so I'll need to wait until my next playthrough to find out if he's any good!

[GodBID]

When i first saw Fenris, all i could think was "When the hell will the rest of the cast from FF7 show up"

JRPG Check markers: Emo, Spikey hair, Buster sword 3 times the wielder Check check andddd check.

And what's up with his armor i mean reallllly did you run out of ideas or what? T_T

[Thestral]

What Fenris are you looking at that he has spiky hair? o__O

[GodBID]

Thestral wrote...

What Fenris are you looking at that he has spiky hair? o__O

It's close enough

[andyjamison1]

Given the plot of the game (I am not going to spoil it even though spolers are allowed here) a Quanari would not have worked for the charecter of Fenris you will understand when you get to Act 2 (toward the end) it would have been hard to explain his involvment with your charecter then.

[SuicidalBaby]

I so enjoyed my last moments with Fenris, all 4 seconds of his stupidity.

[JoxerNL]

SuicidialBaby wrote...

I so enjoyed my last moments with Fenris, all 4 seconds of his stupidity.

Yeah he goes down nice and fast doesnt he 

[Clonedzero]

you know, i actually completely agree. i benched fenris as soon as i got him. he's even more whiney and annoying than carver. plus looks super silly, especially when you use his one skill that makes him glow bright blue? wtf?

him being a qunari with pretty much the same backstory would have made me like him significantly more, and he coulda been tied into the story much better that way too. maybe make him alittle more "zen" and alittle less "brooding" and you got a winner.

[Nigawatts]

It was hilarious at the end. I was worried he would be a challenge since he was always portrayed as being obscenely powerful in the cutscenes. But he tried to scythe me, and by the time he was behind me he was already dropping to the ground. The City guards gave me more trouble.

[Kyrin]

As a mage, I enjoyed Fenris' abilitiy to tank, even if he came with an occasional dose of melodrama. I was surprised when he turned against me though. I figured he would just stand around collecting rival points and put up with my pro-mage agenda until the end.

He definitely went down fast for the amount of gear I'd piled on him.

[Sabariel]

I feel sorry for Fenris. The way he stands... it looks like he can barely stand the weight of his sword XD

[AmyBA]

Am I the only one that didn't find him that whiny? I am assuming you guys honestly didn't bring him around with you very much or talk to him often because other than getting angry on his personal quests, he never complained about anything other than blood mages (that were trying to kill me) when I sided with them.

I thought he would be nothing but depressing and a downer all the time when I first read up on his character, and didn't intend to bring him with me, but he really didn't do much at all when I finally got him. Yea, he has some anger and angst issues, but he was for the most part logical about his dislike and hatred in my game.

There was some civil banter between him and Bethany when she asked him about his opinion of mages. He told Bethany, in a very calm way, that he didnt hate all mages or blame them for what they were, and knew that there were good mages with good intentions, but the fact remained that they all had great potential to do horrible things not in their control, and that it made him uncomfortable and thought they needed to be kept under watch because of it.

The only mage he didn't get along with in my party was Anders, and that is because Anders was a complete b*tch to him any time he opened his mouth. Anders was way more whiny and emo than Fenris was by far, and the complaining about how horrible he was treated because he was a mage never seemed to cease. I was really disappointed because I adored Anders in Awakenings and wanted to romance him, but couldn't tolerate his new personality enough.

Anders even asks Fenris if he thought about committing suicide once, and Fenris was entirely appealed at the idea of taking his own life and asked him why he would want to do that, while Anders thought it was a good idea and made sense for someone like Fenris to do it. Anders also at one point told Fenris he was more of wild dog than a person, in a pretty harsh tone, for no real reason. In the banter it always seems everyone else was picking on Fenris and calling him broody (Varric for instance), when he honestly never did anything broody or whiny himself. Yet by Act 3 everyone seemed to like him, he was being friendly and joking around with everyone and talking about hanging out and drinking and gambling together.

I actually suspected he would up and leave if I defended the mages at the end, I had full on Rivalry with him, but he actually told me while he didn't like the idea, he trusted my choice, and stayed with me and helped me fight the templars.

Modifié par AmyBA, 15 mars 2011 - 03:31 .

[lizzbee]

AmyBA wrote...

Am I the only one that didn't find him that whiny? I am assuming you guys honestly didn't bring him around with you very much or talk to him often because other than getting angry on his personal quests, he never complained about anything other than blood mages (that were trying to kill me) when I sided with them.

I thought he would be nothing but depressing and a downer all the time when I first read up on his character, and didn't intend to bring him with me, but he really didn't do much at all when I finally got him. Yea, he has some anger and angst issues, but he was for the most part logical about his dislike and hatred in my game.

There was some civil banter between him and Bethany when she asked him about his opinion of mages. He told Bethany, in a very calm way, that he didnt hate all mages or blame them for what they were, and knew that there were good mages with good intentions, but the fact remained that they all had great potential to do horrible things not in their control, and that it made him uncomfortable and thought they needed to be kept under watch because of it.

The only mage he didn't get along with in my party was Anders, and that is because Anders was a complete b*tch to him any time he opened his mouth. Anders was way more whiny and emo than Fenris was by far, and the complaining about how horrible he was treated because he was a mage never seemed to cease. I was really disappointed because I adored Anders in Awakenings and wanted to romance him, but couldn't tolerate his new personality enough.

Anders even asks Fenris if he thought about committing suicide once, and Fenris was entirely appealed at the idea of taking his own life and asked him why he would want to do that, while Anders thought it was a good idea and made sense for someone like Fenris to do it. Anders also at one point told Fenris he was more of wild dog than a person, in a pretty harsh tone, for no real reason. In the banter it always seems everyone else was picking on Fenris and calling him broody (Varric for instance), when he honestly never did anything broody or whiny himself. Yet by Act 3 everyone seemed to like him, he was being friendly and joking around with everyone and talking about hanging out and drinking and gambling together.

I actually suspected he would up and leave if I defended the mages at the end, I had full on Rivalry with him, but he actually told me while he didn't like the idea, he trusted my choice, and stayed with me and helped me fight the templars.

No, you're not the only one.  He's actually my favorite character in the game, coming in just ahead of Aveline and Bethany.  He's hilarious, logical, bitter for understandable reasons, and everything he says is coated in a nice layer of cynicism and dark sarcasm.  Whenever he talked about his past, sure, he was angry and bitter, but I didn't find him "broody" or "whiny."  He got a little pissy with my mage Hawke at the end of his recruitment quest, but he never made any huge demands of her.  And after having every single apostate she's encountered try to kill her so far, or become possessed, she's starting to come around to his way of thinking.

[Cheita_Corps]

I'm fine with Fenris. Liked having him around on my blood-thirsty 2hander run. The only thing I don't like is the music that accompanies his dialog. That music just makes me wanna stab him.

[kazumar]

Fenris is awesome, his personal skill tree is awesome, he's a beast. Not to mention match him, Isabella and Varric up and it makes for hilarious chat.

Isabella: Whats with that fisting thing you do?
Fenris: Umm..What?

[Mifune013]

lizzbee wrote...

AmyBA wrote...

Am I the only one that didn't find him that whiny? I am assuming you guys honestly didn't bring him around with you very much or talk to him often because other than getting angry on his personal quests, he never complained about anything other than blood mages (that were trying to kill me) when I sided with them.

I thought he would be nothing but depressing and a downer all the time when I first read up on his character, and didn't intend to bring him with me, but he really didn't do much at all when I finally got him. Yea, he has some anger and angst issues, but he was for the most part logical about his dislike and hatred in my game.

There was some civil banter between him and Bethany when she asked him about his opinion of mages. He told Bethany, in a very calm way, that he didnt hate all mages or blame them for what they were, and knew that there were good mages with good intentions, but the fact remained that they all had great potential to do horrible things not in their control, and that it made him uncomfortable and thought they needed to be kept under watch because of it.

The only mage he didn't get along with in my party was Anders, and that is because Anders was a complete b*tch to him any time he opened his mouth. Anders was way more whiny and emo than Fenris was by far, and the complaining about how horrible he was treated because he was a mage never seemed to cease. I was really disappointed because I adored Anders in Awakenings and wanted to romance him, but couldn't tolerate his new personality enough.

Anders even asks Fenris if he thought about committing suicide once, and Fenris was entirely appealed at the idea of taking his own life and asked him why he would want to do that, while Anders thought it was a good idea and made sense for someone like Fenris to do it. Anders also at one point told Fenris he was more of wild dog than a person, in a pretty harsh tone, for no real reason. In the banter it always seems everyone else was picking on Fenris and calling him broody (Varric for instance), when he honestly never did anything broody or whiny himself. Yet by Act 3 everyone seemed to like him, he was being friendly and joking around with everyone and talking about hanging out and drinking and gambling together.

I actually suspected he would up and leave if I defended the mages at the end, I had full on Rivalry with him, but he actually told me while he didn't like the idea, he trusted my choice, and stayed with me and helped me fight the templars.

No, you're not the only one.  He's actually my favorite character in the game, coming in just ahead of Aveline and Bethany.  He's hilarious, logical, bitter for understandable reasons, and everything he says is coated in a nice layer of cynicism and dark sarcasm.  Whenever he talked about his past, sure, he was angry and bitter, but I didn't find him "broody" or "whiny."  He got a little pissy with my mage Hawke at the end of his recruitment quest, but he never made any huge demands of her.  And after having every single apostate she's encountered try to kill her so far, or become possessed, she's starting to come around to his way of thinking.

Hear, hear! Though I think the concept of Fenris is a cliche his actual character is pretty cool. He's not nearly as whiny as Anders, but then again Anders some how manages to out whine Alistair.

So I too sided with the mages at the end, and Fenris did leave me. He was so easy to defeat. Well...not so much defeat as tell him, "come back" and he was like "okay!" and then skipped around holding hands killing templars with our giant swords (that last part didn't really happen).