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Anyone here play FATAL?


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Lord_Rian

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Personally, I think it would have made an excellent rules base for Dragon Age. I mean, if you are looking for an alternative to D&D, nothing comes close in terms of sheer depth or customizability. ;)

Anyone play FATAL, or know enough to weigh in on its potential usefulness in a CRPG?

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Maria Caliban

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Yes, I know it.



Yes, it's bizarre and the work of an unwell mind. No, I don’t think it was meant as a joke; it’s far too large, detailed, and obvious thought has been put into it.

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Any mention of FATAL must be accompanied by a link to this epic review.

Oh, and this equally epic rebuttal by the author.

Modifié par MrGOH, 29 octobre 2009 - 01:43 .


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"For instance, assume you are an adventuring knight who has just fought his way to the top of a dark tower where you find a comely young maiden chained to the wall. Some may choose to free the whimpering wench. Others may free her while hoping to win her heart. Instead of seeking affection, some may talk to her to see if they can collect a reward for her safe return. Then again, others may be more interested in negotiating freedom for fellatio. Some may think she has no room to bargain and take their fleshly pleasures by force. Others would rather kill her, dismember her young cadaver, and feast on her warm innards."



This says it all.

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What, seriously? FATAL is infamous for being overly complicated tripe, and that's before taking into account how offensive it is. MrGOH and Maria already pointed out more than I would be willing to bother with. If I want an alternative to D&D I'll try WoD, GURPS, some offshoot like True20, or one of the bajillion less popular systems. I choose to assume that your wink emoticon was hinting at sarcasm. Because as far as FATAL is concerned... no. Just no.

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Stanley Woo

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Is that the RPG where even the most minute details of a character's genitalia and sexual functionality can be rolled?

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Maria Caliban

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Seagloom,
A joke, I assume. Sarcasm, it didn't seem to be.

Stanley Woo wrote...

Is that the RPG where even the most minute details of a character's genitalia and sexual functionality can be rolled?


That's the one. You could determine the diameter of your character's rectum, how large it could stretch, and how much damage you would take when it tore. There were several items detailed just for this use.

If it were an erotic RPG, I'd be fine with it. Instead, it focused exclusively on rape and mutilation.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 29 octobre 2009 - 04:47 .


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A joke then. Sarcasm was a shot in the dark anyways. For some reason it was what first sprang to mind. In any case, I didn't find it all that funny. I know FATAL is merely a game, but it's so distasteful I can't take even a falsely positive comment about it in stride. It isn't just the subject matter, but how casual the writers were in portraying it. As if such horrific events are trivial. So, if this was a joke, it failed on me in the worst way.

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Seagloom wrote...

A joke then. Sarcasm was a shot in the dark anyways. For some reason it was what first sprang to mind. In any case, I didn't find it all that funny. I know FATAL is merely a game, but it's so distasteful I can't take even a falsely positive comment about it in stride. It isn't just the subject matter, but how casual the writers were in portraying it. As if such horrific events are trivial. So, if this was a joke, it failed on me in the worst way.


The main writer is on the borderline between cartoonishly Nietzschean (if one were to grossly mininterpret Nietzsche) and full on sociopath.

Modifié par MrGOH, 30 octobre 2009 - 05:22 .


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Seagloom

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That explains some of it. I haven't read too much about him, but from what I've gleaned combing the web years back and in your above comments, he doesn't seem altogether there. I still remember reading a few of his rebuttals and thinking he was frighteningly deluded about his own talent to the point he couldn't see anything wrong with FATAL. Gah... this topic is bringing me down. I'm going to need an acid bath to wipe all the ick off.

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I can't read that review at all. Bright red text and bright white text on completely black background = bleeding eyes. I tried changing these fonts to grey, and even then it's pretty much an unreadable unenjoyable mess. And then the rebuttal had pink font and green text on white background...



No, really, my eyes won't stand for this.

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Im sorry? is it a REAL rpg, that just has elements in which you CAN do bad things but don't HAVE to in order to advance through the game... kinda like GTA

or is it just an outright rape simulator?

Modifié par Freshwater Chimp, 29 octobre 2009 - 10:52 .


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Freshwater Chimp wrote...

Im sorry, is it a REAL rpg; that just has elements in which you CAN do bad things but don't HAVE to in order to advance through the game... kinda like GTA

or is just an outright rape simulator?


What differentiates in your mind a real RPG and a rape simulator? I consider it a real RPG, just a horrible one with convoluted rules, bizarre setting, and an obsession with rape, anal sex, torture, and bodily functions.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Freshwater Chimp wrote...

Im sorry, is it a REAL rpg; that just has elements in which you CAN do bad things but don't HAVE to in order to advance through the game... kinda like GTA

or is just an outright rape simulator?


What differentiates in your mind a real RPG and a rape simulator? I consider it a real RPG, just a horrible one with convoluted rules, bizarre setting, and an obsession with rape, anal sex, torture, and bodily functions.


I meant... is it like say... Dragon Age? A full complete rpg, in which you explore, level up, kill creatures, advance through a story,  save the world... in which you don't HAVE to engage in the things you listed?

or is it something else created solely for the purpose of rape/sex etc.

That was just to clarify my question. Based on your response I can pretty much see that the game isn't worth playing even if it is a "true" or "real" rpg. I had never even heard of this before now. People complained about Mass Effect 's romances, while this was about?

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It's a PnP RPG. It has rules for character creation and combat. There's the Neveria fantasy setting, which is poorly fleshed out and exists.



Could you avoid those elements? It's almost impossible as the critical fumbles for melee combat include things like accidently stabbing yourself in the sexybits or spontaneously defecating and having to roll how much feces comes out. The critical fumbles for magical combat are worse.



I'm not sure what it has to do with Mass Effect.

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Ahhh, reading about deficating and castrating while I eat dinner.  Image IPB Image IPB

I mentioned Mass Effect because of how controversial the romances were, and yet at the same time THIS is around. I was just surprised by the fact I have never heard of this game, as it is something that no doubt SHOULD be HIGHLY controversial.

Modifié par Freshwater Chimp, 29 octobre 2009 - 11:39 .


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I see this thread has brought about the intended hilarity. My work here is complete.

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Mordaedil wrote...

I can't read that review at all. Bright red text and bright white text on completely black background = bleeding eyes. I tried changing these fonts to grey, and even then it's pretty much an unreadable unenjoyable mess. And then the rebuttal had pink font and green text on white background...

No, really, my eyes won't stand for this.


No matter how insane the font colors are, be comforted in knowing they have spared you spiritual pain. To paraphrase the review: FATAL is the 2 girls 1 cup of RPGs.

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Oddly enough, when I saw 2 girls 1 cup, I laughed and couldn't stop.

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Mordaedil wrote...

Oddly enough, when I saw 2 girls 1 cup, I laughed and couldn't stop.


Then you might want to think about copying and pasting the text of the review and rebuttal into Word to make it legible.

But the fact you laughed at 2  girls 1 cup makes me very afraid of you.

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MrGOH wrote...

Mordaedil wrote...

Oddly enough, when I saw 2 girls 1 cup, I laughed and couldn't stop.


Then you might want to think about copying and pasting the text of the review and rebuttal into Word to make it legible.

But the fact you laughed at 2  girls 1 cup makes me very afraid of you.

I've actually seen worse. I've seen things that make it look like a parody. I've seen things where the only solace was that nothing of beauty was destroyed in its making.

Modifié par Mordaedil, 30 octobre 2009 - 09:23 .