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[Evelane]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Shazzie wrote...

Once the nude mods come out, I kind of hope they don't really effect the current sex scenes much (note: I have yet to see Merrill's, so I'm not speaking of that one).

Anders: He comes to your house, talks to you, kisses you, then you pull back to the bed for some smooching and making out. Fade to black. Everything up til this point is perfect. Fade back in, and Hawke is by the fireplace, in house clothing. Meh, but I guess nudity isn't terribly appropriate here, either. Anders is fully clothed, but with no intent of leaving. Why is he fully clothed? Makes me wish Anders had some house clothing of his own. That's the only part that bothers me in this scene. I'd almost rather them both be in their undies, since he should at least be in some form of 'not fully dressed up again'.

Fenris: There is hot up-against-the-wall kissing, then fade to black. Ok. Fade back in, Hawke is in undies on the bed (nudity wouldn't be out of place here, but not necessary) and Fenris is fully clothed by the fireplace. In THIS instance, fully clothed fits- he's walking out the door, he was only staying around for Hawke to wake up.

Isabela: You get jumped and carry her into the bedroom wildly smooching, collapse onto the bed, start stripping, though only get as far as the 3 daggers before fade to black. Being nude prior to this would make zero sense as well.

Unless we get a toolset that allows for new scenes, sticking nudity into any of the above just wouldn't fit. I have absolutely NOTHING against such mods, mind you, and I have several for different games I play, since they often have more attention to detail and are of higher quality than base models. I'm just not sure how well it would fit in with the current scenes.

I agree with this. I would actually rather have better/extended sex scenes than a nude mod, but I get that they're entirely different, and it's silly to talk as though I have to pick one over the other. I guess what I'm saying is that nudity isn't nearly as much of an issue for me as the... lacking... sex scenes. I don't care about dicks and nipples or anything, but they're just so short

i agree ^^ i would love better sex scene ^^ origins scene was kind of weird.. but in a way better ^^ i hope we could have saw a bit more skins.. and a bit longer ^^

[mesmerizedish]

Evelane wrote...

i agree ^^ i would love better sex scene ^^ origins scene was kind of weird.. but in a way better ^^ i hope we could have saw a bit more skins.. and a bit longer ^^

Seeing myself quoted makes me feel like I have to say... my issue is with the scenes being short, not the dicks and nipples being short. I was a little ambiguous.

[Evelane]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Evelane wrote...

i agree ^^ i would love better sex scene ^^ origins scene was kind of weird.. but in a way better ^^ i hope we could have saw a bit more skins.. and a bit longer ^^

Seeing myself quoted makes me feel like I have to say... my issue is with the scenes being short, not the dicks and nipples being short. I was a little ambiguous.

yeah i did understand .. by skins.. i dont mean dicks and nipples ^^

[Shazzie]

What would be totally hot is if future mods (if possible) could keep the current sex scenes as the starter point, but the fade-to-black become an extended scene in something like ME1 style. Especially since nothing in this game, mods or not, could come close to realism... I'd rather the nudity in any modded sex scenes not be direct and in-your-face, since if it was more direct it would be obvious how terrible the animations are. Shadows and light play and seeing just enough to know what's going on without full-on explicitness is what I'm thinking... if such were possible.

That would be so damn hot.

Ok. Back to nudity discussion!

Modifié par Shazzie, 23 mars 2011 - 12:10 .

[AjuntaPall316]

My mod at the Nexus now has a full nude version of underwear. Just topless version left up as well.

[XJ347]

AjuntaPall316 wrote...

My mod at the Nexus now has a full nude version of underwear. Just topless version left up as well.

Sounds like you fixed the DX11 issue two. I owe you another thank you!

[blauterranit]

more sex scenes? yes, I agree, but I also ask for more dialogue interaction with companions... I miss the warcamp conversation of DAO throughout the missions along. They made companions closest and accetuates their own personalities. The relationships in DA2 seems a telegraphic story, with no progressive evolution between important love issues.

I don't remember who create Alistair's dialogue fix, (SORRY!!!), but it was a great job, and made that a namby-pamby Alistair becames a more realistic PNG, more human, if you prefer.
If one person could do such a good job, can not make a team like Bioware?

For modders specially: THANK YOU ALL!

[Kanjii9446]

Bah... had to delete pics

Modifié par Kanjii9446, 23 mars 2011 - 04:07 .

[mesmerizedish]

You can't post inappropriate images like that... it would be better to link to that mod's images page with an NSFW warning.

[blauterranit]

I think it is equally absurd a dressed love scene that a naked batle scene... just a litlle bit of common sense!

[tanerb123]

maybe it is because any nudity and US rates the game as adult and can only be sold in sexshops. after what happened to Grand theft auto couple years ago, game companies are more conservative when it comes to sex. violence is "all you can eat " though. gotta love american thinking.

Modifié par tanerb123, 23 mars 2011 - 05:19 .

[Shazzie]

tanerb123 wrote...

maybe it is because any nudity and US rates the game as adult and can only be sold in sexshops. after what happened to Grand theft auto couple years ago, game companies are more conservative when it comes to sex. violence is "all you can eat " though. gotta love hate american thinking archaic puritanism.

Fixed for you.  

Something that's bothered me all my life, and I'm as deep as you can get in the American south, surrounded by conservatives and the entire bible belt.
Fortunately, my family has always been at least remotely sane, or I'd be a nutcase.

Modifié par Shazzie, 23 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[blauterranit]

haha You look quite "normal" under a european point of view...Don't worry :-D Even in the more open-minded country you'll find close-minded, including me in some very few issues... What a shame! nobody is perfect!!! ;-)

[MikuHaru]

Shazzie wrote...

What would be totally hot is if future mods (if possible) could keep the current sex scenes as the starter point, but the fade-to-black become an extended scene in something like ME1 style. Especially since nothing in this game, mods or not, could come close to realism... I'd rather the nudity in any modded sex scenes not be direct and in-your-face, since if it was more direct it would be obvious how terrible the animations are. Shadows and light play and seeing just enough to know what's going on without full-on explicitness is what I'm thinking... if such were possible.

That would be so damn hot.

Ok. Back to nudity discussion!

I'm wondering why there has to be a mod for this. Why can't they just go back to the sex scenes from ME1? Even if they tamed them down a bit like in DA:O but made them a bit more shadowed (and drop the weird ass music) so that is looked nicer that would be fine with me.

[Nighthorns]

Just curious, as I have no experience in creating mods, but several items used in the Mysterious Addins pack (http://social.biowar...7/index/6677119) are using custom meshes imported from DA:O. Could this same concept be used to import in body models from DA:O into DA2?

[Dragoniter]

The natural bodies mod for dao was nice. I hope something like that can be done for da2 as well.

[AjuntaPall316]

Wow, I'm actually shocked that someone was able to make that kind of progress with meshes. So yeah... I think as long as they share their info with the modding community other meshes (including the Natural Bodies mod) shouldn't be too far away.

[shumworld]

It's times like this I wish I had a strong enough computer to play the DA series. Not just for the "nude" mods. But just the ability to customize skins in general.

[plasmafruit]

Am I the only one who prefers sexualized armor (for both genders, teehee) rather than full on nude mods? I never really valued nude mods due to them being rather useless for maybe 95% of the whole campaign. I only manage to appreciate nude mods when they're combined with armors that show skin.

My two cents.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

blauterranit wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

blauterranit wrote...

Why doesn't exist the player choose to see the romance sceenes with nudities (or mid-) as it exists with level of blood?
Why are tolerated more violent scenes than sex? especially when violence is always worse than sex.
And why a naked breast is often mistaken with pornography?
It's quite incongruous to me.. Maybe I am growing old too fast or wiser too slow :-)

Are you American? That might be it. It's only American society that's backwards.

Want to see a girl shot in the head? Great! That's allowed.
Want to see the girl naked? Hmmm not sure we can allow that.
Want to see the girl having sex? Um, NO. Sorry that's not going to happen.

I already yet my english may be imperfect, so now I am going use the translator by Google...

how can you conclude I'm an American? I'm Spanish (placed at South Europe, not South America ), The most important issue here is which country your from  or which culture you belong?  Well, then, why is the moral of ONE country the only right? not freedom of choice?.

My respect for different views and cultures going to propose 2 versions of the same game according to UK and U.S.. My questions are personal opinions, it has not me who has named any country or culture to support my views.

I regret that there are people so sensitive about this issue, but I respect those who do not want mid-naked or naked, But do not understand why it must be the only option for any player. I will respect your choice;, respect mine, do not wish to impose a single for a few players solution on most global and diverse players.

Thanks,
In short, the international game = more freedom of choice (races, blood, or sex ...no matter where you are from)
Perhaps is my fault to be misunderstood, so it's so, my apologize.

The game is made by an American company, so it's made to American standards.  Violence is ok, sex and nudity is not.  

It was not my intent to impose anything on you, I think American morals are backwards myself.   I was only stating that, like it or not (and I do NOT), American morals govern this and many other games. Even games not made in America, many find themselves catering to American standards.

Americans need to get past this backward thinking that violence is good, sex is bad.

[Solo80]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

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Americans need to get past this backward thinking that violence is good, sex is bad.

This. Any society that finds it more acceptable to see a girl hacked to pieces, than seeing the same girl being loved, caressed, and made love to is not a society I want to be any part of.

Glad to be European

[Arnyhold]

I also think games can be sold with a bit more courage in this area *cough* witcher *cough*. I know it is not American, but Polish, yet it was released in the US as well (with censure, but still ). Sex is natural.

I really do not like where these games head on this area. In Mass Effect 1 I found it cool. Not too hard, not too soft and sensual. Then in ME2 they took back a bit, yet it was okayish. Then they released DAO... the originaal cutscenes are just awkward. Now in DA2 they do not even get to the act. They wanted to made it emotionally full by some strange kiss scene. I say strange, cuz in my experiences kisses look a bit different and the sound what Anders makes when you first kiss him is almost like he wants to eat you face. :DD

Modifié par Arnyhold, 24 mars 2011 - 01:12 .

[mesmerizedish]

I thought it was the UK that censored The Witcher, not the US...

Regardless, The Witcher's approach was entirely infantile. Isabela at least has strong characterization to support her.

[Arnyhold]

I mainly meant that for example a dryad in the woods obviously not wear any clothes or hide herself with her hair just to be more appropiate for a 18+ audience, like the lady of the forest did. Not the part that he laid every single women. :-) Not like it is impossible in a fantasy setting. It is backened by the fact that geralt is a womanizer, but I think it is a bit too offtopic now. :-)

Please Bioware make DA3 more closer to ME1 (cutscenewise) or make the maincharacter a golem or a Mabari dog. Thanks. (pun intended)

edit ps: sorry I heard it was censored in the US also. Since I'm a hungarian I had no issues like this, we had the same polish version thanks to our friends.

Modifié par Arnyhold, 24 mars 2011 - 01:22 .

[GholaHalleck]

It's Europe's fault America is like that, you sent all the people who were too uptight to be British here. THANKS A LOT.