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[Efesell]

See now I can't wait til DA3 is coming out and the topics are all "Go back to DA2 pls"

[Killa2k]

Efesell wrote...

See now I can't wait til DA3 is coming out and the topics are all "Go back to DA2 pls"

yeah if thats the case it will only prove how far Bioware has slumped since developing its original fanbase all those years ago...

[Pink Leaf]

To send DA2 into the mist of never-was, then Dragon age 3 should rightly be named Dragon Age Origins 2. You see there never was a Dragon Age 2, it was all just a rumour.

[EmperorZorn]

bassmunkee wrote...

"Don't panic, just make sure that as soon as DA3 comes out you post up a thread complaining about, then it will be business as usual on the forum."
EFA.
You're welcome.

There will always be complaints, no matter how close to perfection a game is.
Its just that DA2 gives people too much valid reasons to complain.

[Phonantiphon]

Why would you want auto attack anyway?
And anyway, what's wrong with it being more like Mass Effect? I think it is very Mass Effect-ish and to be honest it comes across as a win for me.

[Efesell]

EmperorZorn wrote...

bassmunkee wrote...

"Don't panic, just make sure that as soon as DA3 comes out you post up a thread complaining about, then it will be business as usual on the forum."
EFA.
You're welcome.

There will always be complaints, no matter how close to perfection a game is.
Its just that DA2 gives people too much valid reasons to complain.

Pfft, what game doesn't.

[I AM BETTER DOG]

Old games always seem better until I play them again.

Then I remember what innovation is.

[Alistair2009]

DA: O was such a good game- Never change a winning team, right?

[Flunkorg]

I don't want a continuation of origins.

[DarkSpider88]

I am sorry even with the few flaws DA2 has I felt it was a more enjoyable experience. They just need to expand on the direction they are moving. Besides Arch Demon is dead the Warden did his job, them doing anything else is pretty much a step back.

Modifié par DarkSpider88, 14 mars 2011 - 01:01 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

There are a lot of features I like better in DA 2, like more responsive combat, more differing class archetypes ( such as the rogue having a unique set of skill trees compared to the warrior ) more activated abilities which make for a more engaging combat experience, and branching skill trees.

[darklordpocky-san]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Got to wait till the dust settles. If DA2 sells, then they won't care what anyone said and will continue streamlining.

If DA2 bombs, then one of two things can happen.

1. DA3 goes back to it's roots
2. DA3 gets canned.

Or they may conclude that DA2 was still not streamlined enough when the spybot reports on all those unfinished games.

pretty much this

And I expect route 2 more than anything, knowing EA.

[MegaBadExample]

I hope they do that. Somehow I don't think they can. Dragon Age Origins will be forgotten in 3/4 years time by most people. To be honest nothing that exciting happened in DA2. Things got exciting when Flemeth showed up, even if it wasn't for very long.

Let's face it, DA3 will be about another new hero, and most old choices will be forgotten. Sad, but true.

Also. How the hell is Hawke the most important person in Thedas? Compared to what my warden did he's a nobody. I'm not hating on Hawke.

[fantasypisces]

EmperorZorn wrote...

bassmunkee wrote...

"Don't panic, just make sure that as soon as DA3 comes out you post up a thread complaining about, then it will be business as usual on the forum."
EFA.
You're welcome.

There will always be complaints, no matter how close to perfection a game is.
Its just that DA2 gives people too much valid reasons to complain.

This is ultimately true. A game could get a 10/10 review from 99% of reviwers, but that 1% will still have stuff to complain about.

The second part is true as well though, there is just plently of reasons to complain about DA2.
Dont' get me wrong, I enjoyed the game, I just liked Origins more

[Phonantiphon]

EmperorZorn wrote...

bassmunkee wrote...

"Don't panic, just make sure that as soon as DA3 comes out you post up a thread complaining about, then it will be business as usual on the forum."
EFA.
You're welcome.

There will always be complaints, no matter how close to perfection a game is.
Its just that DA2 gives people too much valid reasons to complain.

Such as?

[Phonantiphon]

Killa2k wrote...

Efesell wrote...

See now I can't wait til DA3 is coming out and the topics are all "Go back to DA2 pls"

yeah if thats the case it will only prove how far Bioware has slumped since developing its original fanbase all those years ago...

<yawn>

[marshalleck]

Hell no. If they go back to what they've already done I won't be buying DA3. I don't want The Warden back nor his emotionless, wooden, unvoiced personality, I don't want asspain slow two-hand combat, I don't want 6 or so different tutorial levels that all funnel into the exact same game pretending to be some revolutionary design mechanic. Fix what went wrong and look forward, don't dwell in the past.

Modifié par marshalleck, 14 mars 2011 - 02:01 .

[darklordpocky-san]

y'know, despite having a voice; Hakwe is pretty wooden him/herself.

not to mention that most of the lines don't change the outcome of the conversations.

Either way, if they go back to our Wardens, it won't make up for DA2. . . unless DA3 somehow is better than both.

[Mornmagor]

To each his own,no matter how shocking this can be,some of us did find much more to complain about in Origins than in DA2.

You liked DA:O a ton,so you got disappointed DA2 was somewhat different.

I didn't like DA:O,i found it "simply good" at best,so i was relieved my issues were adressed in DA2.

As for the classical oldschool RPGs,people don't realise they had no competition or predecessors,as well as no real consequences.I still remember BG2 NPCs that spoke to me every time Hell froze over,and had one interaction between them every second week.But we didn't have anything like that before,so it looked like something.

When you take a subject and repeat it to oblivion,it gets old.RPGs need something new.

If the next RPG will go back to the "roots",whatever your definition of roots is,you're all going to trash it and find something to complain about and you know it.

For me DA:O had some things i could not tolerate.Like,predictable story,NPCs i did not like(personal opinion here),armors i found disgusting designing wise,combat and specializations that seemed sub par for me class choice..DA2 fixed those issues for me so...

Concluding,to each his own.But don't use your own personal opinion to convince us that DA2 is trash because you didn't like it,or better,because it wasn't what you expected.

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 14 mars 2011 - 02:30 .

[augustburnt]

Kuroi Kishin wrote...

Speak for yourself,i didn't like DA:O at all.

So far i am enjoying DA2.

Yes i play in PC,my favorite game was Planescape Torment,yada yada,i am not as hardcore RPG fan as you so burn me in the stake.

There is no old school RPG guys seriously.Baldur's Gate had complex dialogue?Where everything you said had the same result?

You like puzzles?Like in BG2 where i told a riddle and you answered?Oh but if you are wrong then "LIGHTNING BOLT!"!

Intricacy and plot twists?Name one plot twist in DA:O.

lol guys get a grip,old school RPG never existed like you think it did in the first place.

Next thing,you will all be praising Icewind Dale for it's party interaction and asking to go back to that.

There was only ONE RPG that had the most amazing story you could have.And plot twists,and intricacy,and UNEXPECTED outcomes,because of the story.

Plane scape Tor ment.

End.

so get the hell out of our series and crying about it? Why would you (an extreme minority) think that your dull opinions are so important that you can ruin a good series?

[Mornmagor]

augustburnt wrote...

Kuroi Kishin wrote...

Speak for yourself,i didn't like DA:O at all.

So far i am enjoying DA2.

Yes i play in PC,my favorite game was Planescape Torment,yada yada,i am not as hardcore RPG fan as you so burn me in the stake.

There is no old school RPG guys seriously.Baldur's Gate had complex dialogue?Where everything you said had the same result?

You like puzzles?Like in BG2 where i told a riddle and you answered?Oh but if you are wrong then "LIGHTNING BOLT!"!

Intricacy and plot twists?Name one plot twist in DA:O.

lol guys get a grip,old school RPG never existed like you think it did in the first place.

Next thing,you will all be praising Icewind Dale for it's party interaction and asking to go back to that.

There was only ONE RPG that had the most amazing story you could have.And plot twists,and intricacy,and UNEXPECTED outcomes,because of the story.

Plane scape Tor ment.

End.

so get the hell out of our series and crying about it? Why would you (an extreme minority) think that your dull opinions are so important that you can ruin a good series?

Learn to read?I am not trashing DA2,quite the opposite.Also,read the whole thing before you attack someone.It makes you embarass yourself less.

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 14 mars 2011 - 02:33 .

[Gerudan]

If DA2 sells well (and it seems it does), Bioware will most likely be forced to continue with games like DA2 and will have to put out at least one game per year (either a DA game or a ME game).

[Rykoth]

If DA3 ignores DA2, I won't buy DA3. So how about... follow DA2's lead as far as story goes, but over complicate things for the whiners. But don't do the repeating areas thing again unless it makes sense. (i.e. it makes sense that if you go to the same warehouse... it looks the same )

[neppakyo]

The loot system in DA2 is horrible. Hundreds of items, and you can use maybe 1% of them, you can't even use what you find for you party members (real RPG's you can) And the crafting? What crafting. Find an unending source of ingredients and you can keep making potions over and over again.

DA2 isn't a true RPG, its an action hack and slash with some RPG elements. More like a shooter RPG.

Using the dialog wheel is fine.. as long as it actually effects the outcome of a conversation and not three or four different remarks of the same answer.

Needless to say, DA2 isn't a bad game, not a real RPG. It is a really bad Bioware game, I would hope they don't go down the same road with DA3