I think that there is a big difference between what you get if you just take the Qun at face value compared to reading between the lines.
A society so conformist and totalitarian is all about absolute control without any dissent, but the real question is who or what holds the reigns. The vast bulk of the society has no idea, and even worse does not even think to ask the question; this makes it very easy to corrupt.
There is almost certainly a malignant presence at the heart of the Qun, even if it didn't start that way. It would be trivial for, say, a powerfull demon, to insinuate itself at the centre of the society.
The Arishok was right (spoiler!)
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Posté 15 mars 2011 - 01:10
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Well, not that trivial, given the qunari's truly awesome anti-magic paranoia and the lengths they go to to enforce it. The demon would have to be seriously good at infiltrating. Notice that not even the most anti-qunari person in this thread is in any way slighting qunari competence; they are the most relentlessly thorough people like ever.
OTOH, we've never seen a qunari priest yet, and yet they get to make all the decisions on who goes into what career, and raise all the children.
One wonders how well they make out on the system, yes.
OTOH, we've never seen a qunari priest yet, and yet they get to make all the decisions on who goes into what career, and raise all the children.
One wonders how well they make out on the system, yes.
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#128
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 01:10
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NightfallAU wrote...
I think that there is a big difference between what you get if you just take the Qun at face value compared to reading between the lines.
A society so conformist and totalitarian is all about absolute control without any dissent, but the real question is who or what holds the reigns. The vast bulk of the society has no idea, and even worse does not even think to ask the question; this makes it very easy to corrupt.
There is almost certainly a malignant presence at the heart of the Qun, even if it didn't start that way. It would be trivial for, say, a powerfull demon, to insinuate itself at the centre of the society.
The Pope riding his mercedes on his Gold throne agree.
#129
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 01:35
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Icy Magebane wrote...
Sorry, but I value free will more than peace. There is no way that I would be willing to submit to the Qun. The Arishok was a decent enough fellow, and I respected him in a way, but taking people's right to choose their destiny and placing them into a rigid caste system? No thanks.
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#130
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 01:56
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NightfallAU wrote...
I think that there is a big difference between what you get if you just take the Qun at face value compared to reading between the lines.
A society so conformist and totalitarian is all about absolute control without any dissent, but the real question is who or what holds the reigns. The vast bulk of the society has no idea, and even worse does not even think to ask the question; this makes it very easy to corrupt.
There is almost certainly a malignant presence at the heart of the Qun, even if it didn't start that way. It would be trivial for, say, a powerfull demon, to insinuate itself at the centre of the society.
From what we know, how the Qun is set up makes that very hard. No one holds the reigns as far as we know. Qunari "leadership" (if you can call it that) is split between the Arishok, the Arigena, and the Ariqun all of whom control their own spheres of society and claim to work together as part of a greater whole.
Unless all three are possesed by demons (and then even three demons who actually work together instead of trying to powergrab for themselves) I don't see much potential for corruption
#131
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 01:58
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The Arishok was a great character. Meredith was a great character. And even though these two would have fought to the death if pitted against each other, they were both 100% correct.
The world would be a better place if such leaders were allowed to lead. I was very sad when I had to kill the Arishok. He and I would have been the best of friends if his Qun allowed him such a relationship.
Maybe the reason the Arishok is so great is because the Qunari are aliens?
I forget what codex entery suggests this by implying the strangeness that no Qunari had been sighted previous to 300 years ago.
The world would be a better place if such leaders were allowed to lead. I was very sad when I had to kill the Arishok. He and I would have been the best of friends if his Qun allowed him such a relationship.
Maybe the reason the Arishok is so great is because the Qunari are aliens?
I forget what codex entery suggests this by implying the strangeness that no Qunari had been sighted previous to 300 years ago.
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#132
Posté 15 mars 2011 - 02:11
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kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...
The Arishok was a great character. Meredith was a great character. And even though these two would have fought to the death if pitted against each other, they were both 100% correct.
The world would be a better place if such leaders were allowed to lead.
... right, that's it, I'm out.
