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[Teddie Sage]

We all know by now that Carver and Bethany may die from the taint of the Darkspawns. But there is one thing that I don't get. Why aren't Hawke, Varric and his other companions affected the plague if they aren't Grey Wardens? I'm pretty sure that with all the blood of the darkspawns that splashed on them that they would've contracted the plague by now. But, nope... Plothole or something else? You decide...

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 14 mars 2011 - 05:17 .

[Oneiropolos]

That actually bothered me too. Particularly since I went with Bethany... who's a mage... and I'm a rogue. I had blood all over me but she actually stayed back and healed and always ran away from mobs because that's the role I had her in. So I should have been WAY more exposed to the taint than she was...

[Icy Magebane]

Well when you say it like that, sure it makes no sense... it's pretty common in stories though, especially ones where the authors try to screw over the protagonist in every way possible. You should be happy that Hawke came back from that trip with both arms.

[Squeezit]

i just assumed some people are more susceptible than others.

in Origins, all you did to become a grey warden was drink darkspawn blood right?

Icy Magebane wrote...

You should be happy that Hawke came back from that trip with both arms.

my DW rogue would have been pissed otherwise

Modifié par Squeezit, 14 mars 2011 - 04:15 .

[drhys23]

maybe it WAS those deep mushrooms they ate

[Teddie Sage]

I don't remember seeing or hearing them about eating mushrooms... Unless I forgot...

[AlexXIV]

It's not a plothole. It's a plot.

[Teddie Sage]

Please, don't troll on this thread.

[David Gaider]

Teddie Sage wrote...
We all know by now that Carver and Bethany may die from the taint of the Darkspawns. But there is one thing that I don't get. Why aren't Hawke, Varric and his other companions affected the plague if they aren't Grey Wardens? I'm pretty sure that with all the blood of the darkspawns that splashed on them that they would've contracted the plague by now. But, nope... Plothole or something else? You decide...

Because being exposed to the corruption is no guarantee you'll get the taint... just like being exposed to someone with the flu is no guarantee you'll contact it yourself. This is the same as in Origins-- most of your party weren't Grey Wardens there, either, and yet none of them managed to get sick.

Convenient? Sure-- but there's a big different between something that's convenient for the plot and a "plot hole". People evidently like using that phrase without actually understanding what it means, like "cliche" or "cliffhanger".

Modifié par David Gaider, 14 mars 2011 - 05:05 .

[deleterguy]

Yeah I found this weird aswell, but yeah like David said.

[AlexXIV]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Please, don't troll on this thread.

Are you kidding me?

It is a plot event. How is that trolling. Bethany and Carver are not available after Chapter I, probably because they are not in every playthrough so Bioware is saving up ressources by taking them away early and giving them back late. If you don't take them into the deep roads, they go to the circle/templars, if you take them into the deep roads they die or become grey wardens. You could as well ask why none of the Warden's non-warden companions got the darkspawn corruption.

[Arrtis]

They wanted them to have taint.So they get it.
They didnt want everyone to have taint...so they didnt...

[WhiteKnyght]

Teddie Sage wrote...

We all know by now that Carver and Bethany may die from the taint of the Darkspawns. But there is one thing that I don't get. Why aren't Hawke, Varric and his other companions affected the plague if they aren't Grey Wardens? I'm pretty sure that with all the blood of the darkspawns that splashed on them that they would've contracted the plague by now. But, nope... Plothole or something else? You decide...

Well in Origins there were all of three or four Grey Wardens(You, Alistair, Loghain, and Riordan), rest of the allies, a total of six people, all fight darkspawn on a regular basis, and not one became tainted.

Its possible Bethany and Carver lack a certain constitution that can keep them from being tainted so easily.

[Teddie Sage]

David Gaider wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...
We all know by now that Carver and Bethany may die from the taint of the Darkspawns. But there is one thing that I don't get. Why aren't Hawke, Varric and his other companions affected the plague if they aren't Grey Wardens? I'm pretty sure that with all the blood of the darkspawns that splashed on them that they would've contracted the plague by now. But, nope... Plothole or something else? You decide...

Because being exposed to the corruption is no guarantee you'll get the taint... just like being exposed to someone with the flu is no guarantee you'll contact it yourself. This is the same as in Origins-- most of your party weren't Grey Wardens there, either, and yet none of them managed to get sick.

Convenient? Sure-- but there's a big different between something that's convenient for the plot and a "plot hole". People evidently like using that phrase without actually understanding what it means, like "cliche" or "cliffhanger".

So I take it that the plague isn't extremly contagious eh? Thank you for answering. I always thought they were protected from the taint because the Warden was around them and producing some unnatural energy that protected them from the virus or something like that. Others also roleplayed that Morrigan made potions to avoid the taint.

[Statulos]

The only "plothole" I see in that section of the game is the terrible lack of context and information. And it´s not really a plothole, simply a part of the game that could have been better conducted.

To me it felt like the sacred ashes: you´re in front of something legendary and not really well known by dwarfs except for legends. The problem is that I did not even get those legendes nor a sense of "something is wrong here because...".

Don´t get me wrong, I did not expect a clear and definitive answer, but at least a potential answer or a set of them would have been nice.

Modifié par Statulos, 14 mars 2011 - 05:24 .

[Teddie Sage]

I also feel like the dwarves are less affected by the taint because they lived under earth for centuaries now... It could also be related to their protection against dark magic. (which wasn't really present in DA2, ironically)

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 14 mars 2011 - 05:23 .

[reddragon567]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Its possible Bethany and Carver lack a certain constitution that can keep them from being tainted so easily.

Well they ARE twins.

[Teddie Sage]

Hey... When you think about it, they fought some darkspawns at the beginning of the game, so why haven't they got the taint there? Kinda confusing... At least one of them dies from the ogre, so that means the one left should've got the plague there...

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 14 mars 2011 - 06:38 .