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Ryngard wrote...
I don't know why people insist on being SO vehemently negative.

Well that's simple, it's because one of the few big companies out there who used to put care and effort in to making the best RPG's they could make, have turned their back on their loyal audience of almost 20 years and sold out, in favour of making dumbed down glorified bloody action slashers for cheezy puff munching console gamers to spam their A buttons to.

[Da_Lion_Man]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Now, this is what I call a "shill review":



The guy who posted it was a mean sucker, but I LMAO'd so hard!

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Lets be honest though...

If we worked at Bioware that's EXACTLY what any of us would have done

Don't lie to yourself

I have worked for many game companies and I never did it. Matter of fact I was kinda hard on the game I worked on and the fans respected me for it. 

[xYOSSARIANx]

Epic Legion wrote...

People, please stop being naive. This is 100% fake.

Course it is, which is why one of the many mods who do tend to deny things
when they are not true have kept completely silent on this matter.


Major LULZ at StanleyWoo and StanleyWoosMum reviews of the game, I can't stop laughing as I type this.

Modifié par xYOSSARIANx, 14 mars 2011 - 11:19 .

[cm0s]

Maverick827 wrote...

Since these forums like to present The Witcher as the enemy of Dragon Age, I decided to conduct a little experiment.

First I did a search for "The Witcher credits" which led me to a nice list of potential rubes. I chose a name with a low amount of Polish characters (for my own sake) and a title that sounds important but is not something obvious like like CEO or Lead Design; preferably something techy so I know he's going to be online somewhere.

I ended up choosing Lead Gameplay Programmar Maciej Siniło, and then searched his name on Google. It turns out he has a personal website - joy! The goal here was to find something personal about him but also something not too specific as to appear obvious. This information has to be easily accessible as well, so that I can link to this "evidence" later after I make my fake Metacritic account. Most people choose usernames and passwords that have some meaning in their life, so I was pretty confident I could find something on his personal website.

From the resume I found there I was able to glean his alma matter (Nicholas Copernicus University in Poland) and his birth year (1978). Since it is very common to append one's birth year to a name of some meaning, Copernicus78 would be a nice username which idiots would connect with Mr. Sinilo without much protest or afterthought. Metacritic unfortunately requires a confirmation e-mail, otherwise I could have used the email found on his resume for extra validity.

Since I'm lazy I didn't really want to actually make this account and review, but it took much longer to actually write this post than it did to find out all of the above. I could have, if I really wanted to, post a scathing review for Dragon Age II, or an over-the-top praising of The Witcher (or The Witcher II) as Copernicus78. From there it wouldn't be difficult at all to make an account on various internet information hubs (say, an account with one post, admitting that this is my "first post" to preemptively dispel suspicion) and spread the word of how embarrassing this is for CD Projekt. If you don't think people who would actually do something like this exist on the internet, then you are sorrily mistaken.

That said, I think there's a 50/50 chance that it really was the BioWare employee and, if so, I really don't care. I don't care not only because it was a user review on a website designed to collect user reviews, but even more so because he was right - he being the employee or the impostor, whoever it was. The 0/10 reviews as well as every unthoughtful and hate-filled post on these forums are an overreaction of personal preference; to say otherwise is simply a misunderstanding of one's own emotions and stubbornness. The 10/10 reviews are the same, only in the opposite direction.

Protip: The Plurk account was registered in 2008. Do you honestly believe a troll would go to such great lengths to plan this over a period of almost 3 years, two years before DA2 was even announced?

[Zem_]

Travie wrote...

Just for the record EA dev houses get bonuses based on Metacritic average scores.... That for me is what makes it so shocking.

Source?  I find this very hard to believe.   Critical acclaim is nice, but if EA really is the money-grubbing evil empire everyone here claims they are then why would they award bonuses based on something that has little to do with actual profits?  Good reviews will get you sales but if you spent too much money making the game in the first place, why would you reward that?  In other words, if you're EA why would you hand out bonuses based on anything other than financial success of the game?

[SirShreK]

 DA2: Repercussions of Reviews

Chris Hoban waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out
of the air. There were trolls in the metacritic. He didn't see them, but had
expected them now for years. His warnings to Chris Priestly were not listenend
to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

Chris was bioware engineer for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the
RPGs and he said to dad "I want to be on the RPG daddy."

Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY TROLLS!"

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But
now in the Edemonton base of the Bioware he knew there were trolls. "This
is Chris" the radio crackered. "You must fight the trolls!"

So Chris gotted his plasma keyboard and blew up the reviews.

"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the trolls.

"I will shoot at him" said the cybertroll and he fired the 0 scores.
John ‘ten’ded at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and
they were trapped and not able to kill.

"No! I must kill the trolls" he shouted

The radio said "No, Chris. You ARE the trolls"

And then Chris was a celebrity.

Modifié par SirShreK, 14 mars 2011 - 11:22 .

[moilami]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Now, this is what I call a "shill review":



The guy who posted it was a mean sucker, but I LMAO'd so hard!

Same.

Was priceless.

I will have to say release o DA2 has been most entertaining in gaming history I know and because of that the subpar product got some great additional value in the form of these all fan made creative DLCs xD


Edit: Peeps should just bump that review to the top

Modifié par moilami, 14 mars 2011 - 11:25 .

[vhatever]

Has anyone even confirmed one chris hoban works for bioware.

Cause, I know on the internet I'm an astronaut, a porn star, and a multimilionaie.

[Morran Shiin]

Maverick827 wrote...

That said, I think there's a 50/50 chance that it really was the BioWare employee and, if so, I really don't care. I don't care not only because it was a user review on a website designed to collect user reviews, but even more so because he was right - he being the employee or the impostor, whoever it was. The 0/10 reviews as well as every unthoughtful and hate-filled post on these forums are an overreaction of personal preference; to say otherwise is simply a misunderstanding of one's own emotions and stubbornness. The 10/10 reviews are the same, only in the opposite direction.

I really don't understand what you meant there.

Modifié par Morran Shiin, 14 mars 2011 - 11:30 .

[Maverick827]

cm0s wrote...


Protip: The Plurk account was registered in 2008. Do you honestly believe a troll would go to such great lengths to plan this over a period of almost 3 years, two years before DA2 was even announced?

Who said the Plurk account wasn't his?  All that needs to be fake is the Metacritic account; the rest is just clever misdirection and half-truths.

...if it is indeed fake.  Like I said, it takes no effort to do so, but it is also very likely it was simply his review.  Like I said, 50/50

[nen]

http://www.gamertell...acritic-scores/

http://www.capsuleco...ght-red-handed/

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23bioware

Modifié par nen, 14 mars 2011 - 11:28 .

[Tame1]

BioWare will never reply to this without banning us all.

[moilami]

Tame1 wrote...

BioWare will never reply to this without banning us all.

Would just lol. You know, share the victory, share the defeat.

[AkiKishi]

The hole just seems to be getting deeper day by day.

[Peeker2009]

If this is true, then those posters clearing Bioware of involvement are merely making a presumption. Like any major company Bioware should have a company policy concerning the ethical behavior of their employees. Also, there would have to have been meetings and memos where employees were reminded/warned about company policy regarding reviews (and other important stuff) before the product's release.

If there is such a policy and it is a robust one, then the individual breaking the rule deserves some sort of penalty; If there isn't, then Bioware are guilty at least of gross negligence; If the policy is in fact the opposite (that is," do what you can get away with"), then it would reveal a lot about the company's (im)moral stance. I don't pretend to know how or why it happened, that is up to Bioware to clarify.

Also, for those fans who keep trying to diffuse criticism by pointing to a poster's lack of registered games, please refrain as you are making yourselves look rather desperate. Desperate in the sense of attacking the messenger, or in football parlance "going the man instead of the ball". A tactic most often used by the weaker side.

Aside from the anonimity defence, some people, including myself, have been buying Bioware games a long time before they got into game forums, and see internet registration of software as an option rather than mandatory. Does a high number of badges lend weight to an opinion? Perhaps in the army or scouts, but not on a gaming forum surely.

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

tekraa wrote...

I think a lot of people are over reacting about this. It was one person who made a bad decision from what I've seen, I'm not condemning bioware over it but because of the poor reception this game has had since the release day it just seems unwise that the first review on metacritic was a 10 by Avanost, especially with the hostile atmosphere of this board currently.

I dont think this is just one person. There were lots of 10s but this one was voted up to the top. Considering how it was written I question who would vote it up. 

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

Dept wrote...

Gman George wrote...

Safe to assume Bioware is now the new Rare?

On second thoughts Rare was brought out by Microsoft while EA just put tight leash's on and whipped the Bioware boys around a little.

I miss old rare

Rare still makes some solid games. Nuts and Bolts was a damn good game and Viva Pinata was cool. 

[Mr. Siegal]

Epic Legion wrote...

I can't believe you actually think that's not a fake.

1. Find a random Bioware / EA employee on LinkedIn
2. Now use google to find his/her profiles on social networks
3. Post 10/10 review on metacritics using his/her nick
4. Wait for some ****** internet detective
5. ???
6. Profit

Occam's Razor, my friend.

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

uzivatel wrote...

Gman George wrote...

uzivatel wrote...

I was actually reffering to the trendy Rare-hate...

Ah that. That comes with reason I mean come on... From banjo to Kinect Sports... How much of downfall is that?

At least Kinect Sports sold well.
Sure, it got lot of hate from Rare "fans", but Rare-ish games like Viva Pinata, Kameo or Banjo were hated almost equally and the sales were poor.

Not true. Nuts and Bolts, Kameo and Viva Pinata sold well enough to make a profit. You got to go back to Conker for a good Rare game that didnt sell. 

[Zulu_DFA]

BobSmith101 wrote...

The hole just seems to be getting deeper day by day.

Legion: There was a hole.

[Silver Direwolf]

It is possible that while the guy may work for Bioware, it doesn't mean he was told to post the review or did it try and boost the games score. It may be just simply be his review of the game. He may not be a high up member or anything.

Also, seeing as the account use to post the review was apparently brand new, it's possible someone wanting to discredit BW took a username that a BW employee used on some random site, posted the overly positive review and then pretend he "discovered" it. Thereby making BW look bad. Though this is only if you want to get into crazy conspiracy theories...

Of course, it is entirely more likely that it was someone padding the score, though since we can't know for sure, we shouldn't get all worked up imo.

Btw, Silver Direwolf was also Stanley Woos WoW username. True Story.

[Dorian the Monk of Sune]

Sulaco426 wrote...

Wait.....

Why all the negative reviews though?

I've been playing DA:O for the last few days, and then I decided to hop on and try out DA2 for a comparison.

They are not different......at all. The only perceivable difference is that DA2 has flashier animations. Like literally, the gameplay is exactly the same as DA:O. Sure there is a lack of an isometric view, but that never made a huge difference to me as I never used it. Then again, I'm assuming the people that are complaining probably played it on a console as they keep shouting "BUTTON MASHER" yet I have not seen any button mashing...

Then there is the graphics complaint. DA:O looked worse yet was praised by the same people that criticized DA2. If you want a good example of DA:Os graphics, look at the wagon textures or door textures. Really not all that stellar. Yet DA2 improves on the graphics and is now somehow bad looking?

What?

I am very confused here.

I do agree that there are some bad things about DA2 though (like the fact that a lot of the party members are not as interesting as Origins. Although I do love Varric and Isabela.)

http://social.biowar...index/6492905/1
thats the best I can explain the negativity.

[Kenthen]

It is what it is, and it likely is just some random Bioware employee taking it upon himself to write a review after he got fed up with all the hyperbole and vitriol being flung around elsewhere and in their own forums. If that.
If that is the case though, I don't really blame him nor would I care anyway, I don't care about 10/10 reviews any more than I do 0/10 reviews.

Modifié par Kenthen, 15 mars 2011 - 12:10 .