631 réponses à ce sujet

[Vierlein]

Oh Shi-

BioWare what are you doing ?

[mcha82]

Either way you look at it. It's embarrassing for Bioware, while I don't doubt that this was simply one guy giving the game he worked on a perfect score (I still don't understand why on earth he linked his accounts, not too bright there) This really gives new fodder for criticism.

The fact that he ended up deleting his review after being caught red handed, only confirms how Bioware wants to nip this in the butt as quickly as possible.

Modifié par mcha82, 15 mars 2011 - 09:28 .

[Persephone]

Oh WHO cares? Why does this matter in the slightest?

[AllThatJazz]

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx



  

[mcha82]

AllThatJazz wrote...

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx

"Liking" on facebook isn't a big deal. Has your husband ever reviewed his own programes and wrote...

"The immersion and combat of this show are unmatched! A truly moving and fun epic. Anything negative you'll see about this show is an overreaction of personal preference. For what it is, it is flawlessly executed and endlessly entertaining"

Then it's worth mocking

Modifié par mcha82, 15 mars 2011 - 09:47 .

[epiccrabs]

AllThatJazz wrote...

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx



  

There's a reason we have game reviewers, they are there to provide at least a not-so biased review. You really can't trust a word of someone who reviews their own game, because you won't see them criticize their own game. Have you seen a bioware employee who at least listed the game own's problems? No. You only see the community and some reviewers point out the bad points of the game. 

[f1r3storm]

May be questionable, yes, but no more than those very low scores from day one. I doubt that really all of those giving it the lowest score have actually played the game.

[Goofy McCoy]

Oh hey, something bad happened... Quick! do one of the following:

1. Rationalize it as "Not THAT bad."
2. Point out some other bad thing that makes this bad thing LESS bad somehow.
3. Completely disregard bad thing as an attack, become defensive about an issue you really don't have a stake in.

If you really don't care about how this practice might negatively affect the consumer, then STOP POSTING ABOUT HOW YOU DON'T CARE.

Believe it or not, WE DON'T CARE that YOU DON'T CARE. It's not a discussion about where YOUR interests lay, so do everyone a favor and sit this one out so people can stick to the actual discussion.

Modifié par Goofy McCoy, 15 mars 2011 - 10:19 .

[elizabethdanger]

I posted this on my tumblr and twitter, and I don't even use the BSN, but on a recommendation of a friend I thought I'd post this here.

"After ME3 I’m done with you, Bioware. I can’t vouch for you guys when you do this ****. I’m genuinely embarrassed that the same studio that took games from a hobby to a passion for me would stoop to this. This kind of behavior is not only dishonest and unprofessional, but a total embarrassment for you, your staff and your fans.
I stood up for Bioware through thick and thin. I was still there when they chose to deny gays and lesbians existed, even if I was grossly offended, I was there for them when they charged me $110 for ME2, I was there when they started advertising DA2 like it was the ****ing Super Bowl or something, I was there when they gave everyone universal breast-jobs.
But this is too much. This isn’t simple douchbaggery any more. This is flat out dishonesty. This is what I’d expect from EA. Not from Bioware itself, not from a developer that actually had passion for the games they were making that showed in the game itself.
I had a dream that I still kind of cling to of writing for Bioware, of making games come to life and making them as enjoyable as Bioware’s stuff so far has been. But I don’t want to work for that kind of company now."

I'd also like to add that I'll still be buying ME3 because I'm admittedly emotionally invested in that game and it would take more than dishonesty to come between that game and I. I'd also like to add that all it will take is something from Bioware or EA saying 'not our intention, just an employee screwing up, sorry guys' and I'll take everything back and make my apology.

Truth is, Bioware, I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed.

Modifié par elizabethdanger, 15 mars 2011 - 10:29 .

[nagi_]

Unprofessional, questinable, unethical and embarrassing. Very much so. I did  already decide that I won't be preordering DA3, (while I did so for the past oh-I-don't-know-how-many Bioware games) but after this, I feel even more compelled not to do so.

Modifié par nagi_, 15 mars 2011 - 10:31 .

[thabigred]

 I saw this thread posted on another message board and have been following the fallout of it but have never posted on these forums. I just want to say this is very disappointing. No matter which way you try to rationalize this, it looks bad and is a big deal.

I will be buying the game, but due to the game publication reviews I have read saying the combat hasn't changed drastically, I will be buying it when it goes on sale(I was disappointed with combat of first game). This user review won't effect this purchase, but I can't rationalize away the obvious contension surrounding this games release by Bioware.

That is all.

End of line.

[JustS]

There is no justifying this. If he did it, thats it. This should not even had been an issue. They made a half done game which I did enjoy somewhat, but boy no means deserves a score about a 7, which would be my own score probably.

To make up for it.. they do this. I really really hope no one did this. Again, stop trying to justify this if it is true.

[Agent_Dark_]

mcha82 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx

"Liking" on facebook isn't a big deal. Has your husband ever reviewed his own programes and wrote...

"The immersion and combat of this show are unmatched! A truly moving and fun epic. Anything negative you'll see about this show is an overreaction of personal preference. For what it is, it is flawlessly executed and endlessly entertaining"

Then it's worth mocking

you know, I'm pretty sure the bioware guy is just trolling you guys.... He's probably sitting back sipping a brew and lol'ing at all the nerd rage he's caused.  I mean, come on - he submitted a 10/10 USER REVIEW** that is clearly a load of bull$%!^ on a site that was flooded with 0/10 reviews which are also clearly a load of bull$%!^.  He baited you guys, and you fell hard.  Ah trolling.  It never gets old.

(**something people seem to gloss over - it is in fact pretty much the same thing as the TV progammer 'Liking' his own shows on facebook).

[Biefstukfriet]

I don't quite see a conspiracy, I see a disgruntled employee annoyed that people do not appreciate the fruits of his labour.

[Biefstukfriet]

By the way, I can't post a user score/review at Metacritic on the Dragon Age PC page. I can do it for all other games though. Shock, how's that for a conspiracy!


*edit*

Whoops! It seems the reviews did get posted, but I got an error message when I placed the review. So I spammed the send button, probably leading me to be banned from the page for spamming.

Modifié par Biefstukfriet, 15 mars 2011 - 10:54 .

[mcha82]

Agent_Dark_ wrote...

mcha82 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx

"Liking" on facebook isn't a big deal. Has your husband ever reviewed his own programes and wrote...

"The immersion and combat of this show are unmatched! A truly moving and fun epic. Anything negative you'll see about this show is an overreaction of personal preference. For what it is, it is flawlessly executed and endlessly entertaining"

Then it's worth mocking

you know, I'm pretty sure the bioware guy is just trolling you guys.... He's probably sitting back sipping a brew and lol'ing at all the nerd rage he's caused.  I mean, come on - he submitted a 10/10 USER REVIEW** that is clearly a load of bull$%!^ on a site that was flooded with 0/10 reviews which are also clearly a load of bull$%!^.  He baited you guys, and you fell hard.  Ah trolling.  It never gets old.

(**something people seem to gloss over - it is in fact pretty much the same thing as the TV progammer 'Liking' his own shows on facebook).

Well, if that's the case, then that makes his actions even more comedic.

Again I don't see the similarities between "Liking" on a public facebook page, compared to trying to review your own piece of work anonymously and getting caught red-handed.

I just think the whole situation is hilariously funny.

Modifié par mcha82, 15 mars 2011 - 11:00 .

[Goofy McCoy]

Agent_Dark_ wrote...
Ah trolling.  It never gets old.

Ah yes, "trolling".

That's that word people use when someone does something stupid to try to offend people.
Not the best thing to be caught doing if you happen to be nursing a reputation as an industry leading developer.

[mcha82]

Biefstukfriet wrote...

I don't quite see a conspiracy, I see a disgruntled employee annoyed that people do not appreciate the fruits of his labour.

Exactly, I personally don't fault Bioware. But I'm still going to point and laugh at this.

[philco25]

There's no justification for what the guy wrote but talking about Bioware the way some do here is stupid, there's hundreds of people in their studios who haven't done anythong wrong.

At same time, people who trust reviews are really naive, all the different opinions that are expressed are so different that nothing in thoses reviews are really relevant (going from "the combat hasn't changed drastically" to "they completely destroyed the tactical combat with their changes").

People are really naive if they think that among the people who gave 0 or 1 to DA2 there's no people from other companies, people that don't like Bioware, people who didn't try the game and they are equally naive if they think that some of the high scores are not made by people from Bioware/EA, fanbois who didn't bought the game, etc..

You can not LIKE the combat changes, the companions, the story, etc.. but it's for a big part your fault, you bought a product without thinking, without paying attention to what the devs said before the release, you didn't wait one day to see other people reactions and as for the quality of the game I don't see how people could objectively give a score less than 5 because then many games would have their own scores lowered to -5 or -10.

[Scitsce]

after reading more than 200 "FAN" reviews on metacritic i have feeling more than 100 were written by same rev. because all of them have same exact bull**** and same sentences but udender different profiles. and nobody gives ****.
I rather have review by somone competent from gaming magazines rather than rev. like"thus game SuX x200 times and 0 points "
whats a point in doing that

[waymmetal]

this forum tldr- OP says something anti-DA2, enter blind fan boys to nerd-rage

[AllThatJazz]

mcha82 wrote...

AllThatJazz wrote...

 My husband works in television. I 'like' the facebook pages of all the different programmes he makes; both because he puts out good work (in my opinion) and because I want to be supportive of him. I'm not paid/forced/encouraged to do it by the tv company. My husband also 'likes' his own programmes, because he's proud of the hard work put in by himself and his colleagues, and because SHOCK HORROR he happens to like his own stuff. Give the guy a break, he might only be the coffee and doughnuts boy! xx

"Liking" on facebook isn't a big deal. Has your husband ever reviewed his own programes and wrote...

"The immersion and combat of this show are unmatched! A truly moving and fun epic. Anything negative you'll see about this show is an overreaction of personal preference. For what it is, it is flawlessly executed and endlessly entertaining"

Then it's worth mocking

And you know for a fact that not only does this guy work for Bioware, but he's part of the DA2 team? Cos my husband wouldn't rate his own programme in this way, but he might rate other programmes made by his tv company, and he's well within his rights to do so. Especially if he perceived that some kind of hate campaign (which is what this is in some circles) was being waged against that particular programme. The guy is as allowed to have an opinion as everybody else. 

Sigh. I don't understand why the troll 'zero voters' all too often get lauded for 'sending a message to Bioware', while one, yes ONE Bio employee posts a glowing review and there's an 18 page thread devoted to how unprofessional/unfair/evil/stupid he/Bioware/EA is/are (!). I haven't finished the game yet, still in Act 2, but I'm having huge fun with it. Sure, I have criticisms, but my vote is looking like being a helluva lot closer to that guy's opinion than all the 'OH MY GOD THIS GAME SUCKS ASS' comments, and god knows there are plenty of those on Metacritic and elsewhere. I say again, the poor guy is as entitled to vocalise his opinion as anyone else, unless he's David Gaider or Mike Laidlaw's alter-ego or something in which case yes, a bit weird. 

[Gryphon7]

User reviews are suspect to begin with. That's not to say what the guy did wasn't unprofessional, but it's a minor offense at best. Especially considering all the inane BS that usually fills "User" review sections anyway.

Seriously. Try to find ONE game where there weren't at least a few jerks giving a 0/10 or something because "X GAME IS BETTAR THAN THIS CRAP, LOLOLO."

Therefore, I'm not losing any sleep over this supposedly grave injustice.

[elizabethdanger]

 It doesn't matter if DA2 was a good game or a steaming pile. Fact of the matter is that this was misleading and dishonest.

[Scitsce]

i personaly think this "conspiracy" is fabricated by autor this http://www.reddit.co...ted_metacritic/
you know that even i can sing up as Avanost....what idiot