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[astranger_90]

Linksicle wrote...

you told it in a sugar coated way so an EA exec wouldn't get their panties in a wad and sic the dogs on you.

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I wouldn't call it sugar coated, I just try to phrase in such a way that I never have to type or utter the word 'turd'.

[Linksicle]

Vice-Admiral von Titsling wrote...

Getterray wrote...
This whole affair is even more disgusting after David Gaider tried to blame 4chan.

...Please tell me you're trolling and he didn't actually say that

someone else did, but then he pretended he wasn't completely clueless and said "OH WE KNOW WHAT 4CHAN IS UP TO." huur. 

[spica09]

astranger_90 wrote...

spica09 wrote...

No, because they're not accepted.  What you're arguing would make anything that happens a lot completely ok, when it isnt.  Using ilterality is a mistake in and of itself because it is completely insufficient when dealing with language.  It's why fiigurative forms of speech are essential.  I dont see why you're playing devil's advocate, you're essentially saying it's ok for bioware to engeage in conflicts of interest without trying to get caught.  It only makes them look bad.

Well accepted by who? Because if this a common occurance, they're obviously accepted by Developers, right?

And honestly, i'm just playing Devils Advocate cause I'm eating lunch and a little bored. I do think it's a morally grey area, and the entire system is broken, but I have already made my thoughts on this clear.

Being accepted means you could talk about it in public where a majroity of people would agree with you, rigging reviews and writing false user reviews would mostly likely not be ok if you talked to developers and fans about it.  It's about public opinion, developers dont "accept" it as much as they simply want to do it without getting caught because they can and have the ability to.

[Epic Legion]

So many people without registered game. Pirates or trolls?

[RevengeofNewton]

Korban wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/BEZOe.png

So unethical. This should be illegal.

BioWare did so much crap with this game. Their credibility is next to none just because of DA2.

How about going back to what BioWare does and make great games instead of focusing on making an "ok" game with all these crappy marketing.

Dude. Calm Thyself. It's just one user review by a person who works for the same company. This isn't a "Bioware" anything. You're actually saying it should be illegal for an employee of a company to rate something their company makes online? You're actually going to promote that as law?

[BiggusDikkus]

Not only that, but on Bioware's russian community website they were telling people to vote 10 on metacritic.

The way that Bioware is handling this whole affair is really bad, they won't stop blaming others for their mistakes and ignore all criticisms of the game as "trolls".

Oh, and for all those saying that this was the only Bioware employee to rate his own game we have actually found much more people.

[VanDraegon]

Assuming he is a Bioware employee, no ethical company in their right mind would condone or encourage this kind of review. Now, assuming he was still a Bioware employee who did this on how own, frankly i really couldnt care less. One shill for the game still doesnt outweigh the hundreds of butt hurt gamers who bum rushed the reviews just to mob it with a horrible score. There wasnt an ounce of integrity there either and certainly no objective review of the game. Just an axe to grind. Not very bad review obviously, but a lot.

Modifié par VanDraegon, 14 mars 2011 - 09:57 .

[astranger_90]

spica09 wrote...

Being accepted means you could talk about it in public where a majroity of people would agree with you, rigging reviews and writing false user reviews would mostly likely not be ok if you talked to developers and fans about it.  It's about public opinion, developers dont "accept" it as much as they simply want to do it without getting caught because they can and have the ability to.

Well, accepted in the sense that we as a country accept that most politicians are sexual deviants behind closed doors. Same idea, less pleather and chains.

[ACDimps]

I don't think i's fake, for ONE reason.

if it was some unnamed troll, why would they for the MOMENT this thread comes up, to delete their review?

it makes much more sense that a bioware employee saw the post, and sent the guy a panic text, 'get your review down you idiot!"

[spica09]

astranger_90 wrote...

spica09 wrote...

Being accepted means you could talk about it in public where a majroity of people would agree with you, rigging reviews and writing false user reviews would mostly likely not be ok if you talked to developers and fans about it.  It's about public opinion, developers dont "accept" it as much as they simply want to do it without getting caught because they can and have the ability to.

Well, accepted in the sense that we as a country accept that most politicians are sexual deviants behind closed doors. Same idea, less pleather and chains.

Who says it's accepted?  We cant even prove that.  Acknowledging something isnt approving of it.

[Linksicle]

Epic Legion wrote...

So many people without registered game. Pirates or trolls?

or people who don't want to have their access to the game restricted for being outspoken.
i assure you that not everyone you disagree with on the internet is a troll.

BiggusDikkus wrote...

Not only that, but on Bioware's russian community website they were telling people to vote 10 on metacritic.

The way that Bioware is handling this whole affair is really bad, they won't stop blaming others for their mistakes and ignore all criticisms of the game as "trolls".

Oh, and for all those saying that this was the only Bioware employee to rate his own game we have actually found much more people.

well, you know, at the very least saying, "yeah, so, we tried some new things, they didn't work and we're gonna use this to get better." would be nice. THEN i'd support them 100%. better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all. 

but then they have this huge media blitz trying to imply that the game is perfectly fine and everyone who didn't like it is just a troll, and for what? pride? making sure papa EA gets his paycheck? 

[Korban]

Epic Legion wrote...

So many people without registered game. Pirates or trolls?

People are afraid they will get banned for critical reviews of the game.  I don't want to lose access to games I pay for.

[Qvaak]

Epic Legion wrote...

So many people without registered game. Pirates or trolls?

Or maybe some people are afraid of getting their games locked?

[CroGamer002]

lol

[ACDimps]

or some people dont give a damn about registering. it is an extra step or two, that many would rather not do.

[astranger_90]

spica09 wrote...

Who says it's accepted?  We cant even prove that.  Acknowledging something isnt approving of it.

Common sense would say it's generally accepted, given that if a person has genitals, they are most likely a sexual deviant. It's just kinda the nature of genitals.

And I was just using the whole "pleather and chains" thing to create an allusion to S&M, but unless it's missionary for the sake of children it's 'Deviant."

But thats getting a bit off topic, and I apologize for that.

[ACDimps]

Mesina2 wrote...

lol

:O:O:D

[Obro]

Epic Legion wrote...

So many people without registered game. Pirates or trolls?

I won't lie.I pirate everything before I buy it.I just dont have enough money to buy without care.And if I did have money to buy without care I would still pirate for it is the only way for me to tell is the game worth the money.

So ignore my opinion just because I pirate if you will but I still bought evey single game I liked to this day and I am not ashamed of myself.And my opinion of a game is honest.

[Lotto]

Epic Legion wrote...

I can't believe you actually think that's not a fake.

1. Find a random Bioware / EA employee on LinkedIn
2. Now use google to find his/her profiles on social networks
3. Post 10/10 review on metacritics using his/her nick
4. Wait for some ****** internet detective
5. ???
6. Profit

you may suffer from accute paranoia

[tekraa]

Wishpig wrote...

tekraa wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Reviews that give the game 10/10 should be looked at extremely cautiously. Those that give it a 0/10 should be strait up ignored. The fact is someone can see DA2 as being a masterpiece, but I don't believe anyone with any sense or desire to pass far judgment would rate this game a 0/10 or even a 2/10.

Personally I only trust the reviews that give this game somewhere in-between 4/10 to 9/10. Any higher or lower than that is too extreme and hints at a very bias opinion.

I gave this game a 3/10, mostly because I have 0 desire to play again, I've tried 4 times now to get through act 1 with a second play through and every time I pick it up I'm already bored after 30 minutes of play, nothing about it is compelling and the overall feel of the game is just bad, thus warranting a low score from me.  ME, ME2, DA:O, all made me want to keep playing even after a few playthroughs.

Well see... I would almost certainly not trust your review. Not because of the 3/10, but because you didn't get far. MANY fantastic RPG's I've played have had terrible starts. I have multiple friends who never got past BG2's first dungeon and personally I almost stopped playing The Witcher because the first few hours SUCKED (truthfully I didn't really get sucked into it until 10+ hours into the game!), both are now in my top 10 favorite games list.

Did you actually read my post? I beat the game, I started a second play through, I can't keep playing because it is loathsomely boring.

[spica09]

astranger_90 wrote...

spica09 wrote...

Who says it's accepted?  We cant even prove that.  Acknowledging something isnt approving of it.

Common sense would say it's generally accepted, given that if a person has genitals, they are most likely a sexual deviant. It's just kinda the nature of genitals.

And I was just using the whole "pleather and chains" thing to create an allusion to S&M, but unless it's missionary for the sake of children it's 'Deviant."

But thats getting a bit off topic, and I apologize for that.

I dont really know what to say other than that deviancy is extremely subjective and you'd be surprised what some people would call deviant behavior.  I cant really say anything other than that simply saying something is common doesnt mean people like it or are accepting of it.

[uzivatel]

Obro wrote...

If I bough WRPG game and I got a game that to me doesn't feel like WRPG ...shoud I rate it good? I mean I bough it because I thought I will be playing WRPG.And it turns out that it's just an adventure game or JRPG.

What's the difference between this and say...FF7 that allowed you to change Clouds second name?

WRPG is huge genre and DA2 is obiously part of it, just because its not the kind of WRPG you like, does not make it different genre.
How about PS:T? Hell, you cant change your own armour in the game...

Maybe you should have read the reviews.

[Agauff]

 Hey guys, for those who don't know there's a site called 4chan, and they occasionally do "raids". I found this thread on the boards, and it looks like the whole thing was staged to make the score go down. 
http://www.flickr.co...N06/5527024577/
DON'T LET THE CHANS TARNISH BIOWARE'S GOOD NAME! WE MUST SPREAD THE TRUTH!

Modifié par Agauff, 14 mars 2011 - 10:08 .

[spica09]

Agauff wrote...

 Hey guys, for those who don't know there's a site called 4chan, and they occasionally do "raids". I found this thread on the boards, and it looks like the whole thing was staged to make the score go down.
http://www.flickr.co...N06/5527024577/

  From what I've seen 4chan is just spreading what has gone on here.

Modifié par spica09, 14 mars 2011 - 10:08 .

[Cazlee]

Er..why would a Bioware employee use an alias that is associated with a real life identity? Then why copy and paste the marketing description?

I have my doubts that he actually wrote that. It's too obvious and anyone that cares enough could have easily pull up aliases Bioware employees use and write fake reviews.

Next, who cares if he was a Bioware employee? That doesn't mean that he was directly involved in making the game.

And if there was a big incentive for Bioware employees to write good reviews, why are there so few? Doesn't Bioware have ~1000 employees?

Such a big deal being made over something nobody can prove, and even if proved true means very little