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BaronShadow

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Hi Guys,

I know every one hates these threads, but any thoughts. I'm just looking for you impressions/idea of them.

I played a warrior through on DA:O and started a mage and got halfway (did not like the fade sections!)

My thoughts are to play a good noble warrior and a bit of a rouge/does what he wants mage.

Thanks. 

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Whyp_2

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Warrior -> you get Bethany

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Sarielle

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From my playthrough...the whole apostate thing plays a very, very big part in the story. I can't imagine it would be quite as compelling if your first or "canon" playthrough was something other than a mage :)

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Knox1776

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I've completed the Warrior playthrough, and still found the Mage vs. Templar conflict compelling.

Now I'm playing the Mage, and looking forward to seeing this from another perspective.

By the way, I played an honorable, mage-supporting, warrior due to Bethany and the Merrill romance.

This time, I'm going to play a Templar-supporting, **** of a mage. Should be interesting to see what Fenris ends up thinking of me. :)

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Aesieru

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In this game, you can't own with just any character... my dual-wield warrior could kill things faster than my mages in DA:O and he wasn't imba or rigged... sigh.

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Cutlass Jack

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Rogue. You get Bethany, and you're sexier.

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Sarielle

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Knox1776 wrote...

This time, I'm going to play a Templar-supporting, **** of a mage. Should be interesting to see what Fenris ends up thinking of me. :)


My mage has walked the line between valuing personal freedom, but not agreeing that ends justify the means -- IE, blood magic, killing the innocents are nonos for her, but keeping a stranglehold on the mages isn't helping.

It definitely provides an interesting dynamic between Fen/Anders/Apostate!Hawke.

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BaronShadow

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Hadn't even considered Rouge as didn't touch it DA:O...

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Rockpopple

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Mage pros

- Cool spell animations
- Being able to rain sweet frosty death upon your enemies. Mages FEEL more powerful. Whether they are is up to your specs.

Cons

- Carver. He's a douche.

Warrior

Pros

- Tasty Visceral Action
- Bethany is so pleasant to have around, usually. Not completely useless as a Healer either.

Cons

- YOU'RE NOT A MAGE!

Rogues

I haven't played this class yet, but you can pick locks, and as an archer you're pretty badass. And you get Bethany. Win-win.

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Rogue is fun and I am just a *rogue* sort in games... BUT: mage is very fun in DA2. I tried it and didn't like it much in DA:O but I started up an alt just to try it and wow, I had so much fun I can't wait to finish my "main" me so I can play her again. It was hard to go back to rogue after playing her several levels and getting used to her wicked AOE skills.

I haven't tried warrior as a comparison yet though. I hear they are pretty fun also.

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PuppetSoul

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Unless you do the Wis heavy Berserker build, Warrior is lackluster.

Dualist Rogues are the best tanks in the game.

This assumes you have a buffbot Warrior and Mage in the party to give it their respective buffs. Their ally taunt can be used on themselves, but unlike the Warrior's weak taunt, it forces the enemies to target the Rogue rather than just increasing its threat.

You can then split a chunk of that damage with the buffbot Warrior if you wish, although Isabella and Dualists only ever get hit by skill attacks, so it's not really necessary.


Wisdom stacking Berserker+Reaver Warrior is the highest sustained dps in the game.

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I don't like Mages as a general rule, because you -always- end up wearing robes. I'm not saying give me my Warriors gear and my Mages spells, but why can't my Mage wear armor, with the same stats as a robe? I just never understood how "You can cast fire? What? No, you can't wear that. What do you mean why not? You. Cast. Fire. Mages can't wear armor! Everyone knows that!"

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my rogue was driving me insane everyime i get knockedback/staggered or whatever its called. so i ditched him. (yeah i know i coulda been more careful to avoid that, but takes the fun out lol)

mages are a complete blast and i think the story works super well with you being a mage.

a warrior could be alot of fun too.

the whole listing carver as a "con" against playing a mage is stupid. he's FAR more interesting than cardboard personality bethany. she's easily the most boring character to have around. i actually REALLY enjoyed arguing with him over everything, was far more interesting than bethany who just sorta tagged along and pointed out "hay im a mage" every so often.

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I'm having lots of fun playing a rogue on Nightmare alternating between (Anders + Fenris + Avelline) and (Anders + Avelline + Merrill).

If you play as the Rogue, you can put a couple of points into Archery as well as Dual Wield, Assassin, and the other schools in order to benefit most from cross-class combos. You can start out ranged with Assassinate and then close in for high DPS on STAGGERED or BRITTLE opponents. Or set up some DISORIENTED enemies for your mage to cast Stonefist or warriors to hit with Scatter or Assault.

Anders is pretty amazing as a healer because he is the only NPC who can revive party members, plus on the offensive side he has access to the Primal cross-class combos and in Vengeance Mode all his spell cooldowns can get reduced by 80%.

Bethany cannot cast Primal spells which means I don't use her any more.

Merril is very powerful with a really high constitution + Blood of the Fist + Arlathan's Grace and Rock Armor + Galvanism, with access to all the cross class combos from the Primal spells.

Modifié par naughty99, 15 mars 2011 - 12:10 .


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Jarys

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Is anyone else finding warriors fairly underpowered? Cleave is awesome and all, but unless you use a stamina potion on every cooldown the overall damage is pretty low (though the initial burst is badass, then you're stuck waiting 10-ish seconds for even one ability to cool down).

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I definetly recomment mage...bigger impact on the story.

But then again, Bethany is a more likable character than Carver (though I adore his storyline).

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My first play-through was as a Rogue and they kick rear end. I'm now starting as a Warrior and am finding them to be VERY underwhelming. Their taunts don't seem to do much, they do very little damage and with a 2H they get dropped very easily. It's only early days though so I'll persevere as Avaline and Fenris seemed to cope at later stages of the first play-through.

Mages on the other hand have no issues at any stage except against the occasional big bad named critters like the High Dragon if you aren't careful. Just make sure you take at least a few good AoE spells like Fire Ball and Fire Storm or Chain Lightning and Tempest. Some form of protection or disabling spells are handy too to get you away from nasties.

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Jman5

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What's with all this warrior hate? My first run through was with a 2-hander and I practically solo'd everything that wasn't a boss. I didn't even know about Cross-class-Combos until I accidentally unlocked the achievement in Act 3.

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Playing a Mage seems to fit better with the story (although I am yet to try the others so maybe its changed to fit them more!!!) and the combat is a lot of fun.

However playing as a Mage has one major drawback in that you will look like a complete douche' the entire time you are playing as all mage robes look cack, that is until you get the sweet sweet Champions armour which is the best out of the three classes! So the wait is worthwhile!!

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Tach Prime

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I started as a rouge but now I'm going through the game as a hypocrite Mage who will side with the Templars.

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Sarielle

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FoxholeHunter wrote...

However playing as a Mage has one major drawback in that you will look like a complete douche' the entire time you are playing as all mage robes look cack, that is until you get the sweet sweet Champions armour which is the best out of the three classes! So the wait is worthwhile!!


There are a few armors for mages that aren't robes even before you get the champion armor, fyi.

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Jarys wrote...

Is anyone else finding warriors fairly underpowered? Cleave is awesome and all, but unless you use a stamina potion on every cooldown the overall damage is pretty low (though the initial burst is badass, then you're stuck waiting 10-ish seconds for even one ability to cool down).

no. stop ignoring the battlemaster tree, with that you shouldnt have much stamina problems.

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Sarielle wrote...

From my playthrough...the whole apostate thing plays a very, very big part in the story. I can't imagine it would be quite as compelling if your first or "canon" playthrough was something other than a mage :)

this.

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atheelogos

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Sarielle wrote...

FoxholeHunter wrote...

However playing as a Mage has one major drawback in that you will look like a complete douche' the entire time you are playing as all mage robes look cack, that is until you get the sweet sweet Champions armour which is the best out of the three classes! So the wait is worthwhile!!


There are a few armors for mages that aren't robes even before you get the champion armor, fyi.

Really?! Where can you find them?

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DrekorSilverfang

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Jarys wrote...

Is anyone else finding warriors fairly underpowered? Cleave is awesome and all, but unless you use a stamina potion on every cooldown the overall damage is pretty low (though the initial burst is badass, then you're stuck waiting 10-ish seconds for even one ability to cool down).


Underpowered? Are you serious? I play on nightmare and I can just obliterate everything. I literally hit cleave+sac frenzy and charge headlong into 10+ enemies and they literally EXPLODE from my awesomeness....  or from scythe+ww+smite+mighty blow.

Use upgraded second wind... it restores your stamina and apparently makes stuff cooldown faster?(I think that part of it is broke though). The only thing that can really survive that combo is a boss and you need to be juking around the boss unless your own an easier setting.