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[BIO18]

 SPOILER : When you end the game , we learn that both Hawke and the warden have disapered and that its not a coincidence . So do you guys think we will get Hawke and the warden in DA3 ? And for the people that are going to say " Uh the warden is done , get over it " clearly the ending says otherwise . Unless the warden died of corse , but knowing BIOWARE death is not their biggest problem

[Red Templar]

How would that work? Hawke is a more closely defined voiced protagonist, and the Warden is a vaguely defined unvoiced protagonist. Both these characters are extremely accomplished, and they might not necessarily share any goals. Should they both be the protagonist in DA3, like some kind of buddy adventure? Should they both start at level one? Should the Warden get a brand new voice actor? Should the Warden be railroaded away from whatever decisions the player made for him to play peacemaker in the Chantry war?

I don't know. To me it seems far too clumsy and clunky to be plausible. They will probably get the same treatment that Revan, the Exile, the Hero of Nerverwinter etc. got. They are gone so as to be conveniently removed from the political landscape so that the writers don't have to deal with off screen non-canonical characters as world leaders, and can instead replace them with canonical characters who are infinitely easier to manage.

[BIO18]

Red Templar wrote...

How would that work? Hawke is a more closely defined voiced protagonist, and the Warden is a vaguely defined unvoiced protagonist. Both these characters are extremely accomplished, and they might not necessarily share any goals. Should they both be the protagonist in DA3, like some kind of buddy adventure? Should they both start at level one? Should the Warden get a brand new voice actor? Should the Warden be railroaded away from whatever decisions the player made for him to play peacemaker in the Chantry war?

I don't know. To me it seems far too clumsy and clunky to be plausible. They will probably get the same treatment that Revan, the Exile, the Hero of Nerverwinter etc. got. They are gone so as to be conveniently removed from the political landscape so that the writers don't have to deal with off screen non-canonical characters as world leaders, and can instead replace them with canonical characters who are infinitely easier to manage.

Note that I never said we get to play them don't put words in my mouth , I was asking if they might have a role . Its not because Im blonde that Im stupid

Modifié par BIO18, 14 mars 2011 - 07:46 .

[ZenoX]

Maybe the Warden's tounge was cut out sometime during the timeline...

[Augustei]

The Connection? Well For me Its probably that they both went through Eluvians.. My Warden with Morrigan my hawke with Merrill.

But Im thinking its definitly just coincidence.. Seekers have a seemingly annoying habbit of jumping to conclusions and making assumptions.. Varric had to pull Cassandra up on her assumptions a few times in fact.

If the Warden didn't go through the Eluvian then he and a large chunk of the wardens probably are thousands of miles below the ground exploring the deep roads after hearing of the discovery of that Lyrium Artifact.

The First Warden not wanting to inform anyone that he sent probably a massive number of wardens in his order to get down that far because A) He could loose political influence in the anderfels (Maybe hes a greedy bastard mmk?) People will realise the Anderfels isn't as well defended as they thought and with the world on the brink of war and all.. Well people knowing = bad
C) People will want to go down as well thinking the deep roads will be fairly safe with so many wardens down there or D) Well.. they are just secretive people, and they like it.. cause its cool and gets em the ladies lol.

Whereas Hawkes dissapearence is simply him going into hiding to avoid the wrath of the mages / templars most likely

[jabajack]

I beleive its possible to have a cameo (easier for Hawke than the Warden) but they should have a significant impact, due to them both being 'used' by flemeth and being living legends. Heck DA3 or more likely a DA2 DLC could continue either story (For the Warden, just import a save and from there we can recreate their appearence and boom)

[Red Templar]

BIO18 wrote...

Note that I never said we get to play them don't put words in my mouth , I was asking if they might have a role . Its not because Im blonde that Im stupid

Don't mean to put words in your mouth, I just honestly don't see how it would work. I guess bioware could voice them as NPCs... but that would be disastrous. Bioware would either have to take "ownership" of these characters we have played, and give them motivations and opinions that are a complete shot in the dark and probably will result in a completely different personality than the one we imagined, or they would have to make way for a thousand different characters based on your import choices, which still wouldn't change that they are taking a non-canonical character that exists in the players mind and trying to give it canonical form and substance. It would be so, so messy.

They are getting the Revan treatment. Mark my words!

[ReViliTy]

If your warden died in DAO, or you picked the premade in DA2 that he/she died, does she still say the same thing in DA2's ending?

[Arppis]

Warden could get a voice if he decides to come back. But don't the Grey Wardens live like 10 or was it 30 years after going trough with the ritual? I forgot.

[Sloth22]

Arppis wrote...

Warden could get a voice if he decides to come back. But don't the Grey Wardens live like 10 or was it 30 years after going trough with the ritual? I forgot.

Ya its around 30 years so i think the warden could come back.

[Wowlock]

Arppis wrote...

Warden could get a voice if he decides to come back. But don't the Grey Wardens live like 10 or was it 30 years after going trough with the ritual? I forgot.

If you have the Warden's keep and let the old mage Warden study the warden blood ( I allowed only moral ways however ) he says something about improvement in Warden's blood.  And don't forget Alistair's mother got rid of the taint somehow... so there can be chance for our Warden. Lets face it , which Warden deserves it more than ours

[Foop DK]

Arppis wrote...

Warden could get a voice if he decides to come back. But don't the Grey Wardens live like 10 or was it 30 years after going trough with the ritual? I forgot.

Normally around 30 years. Unless ofcourse if your name is Avernuss. That guy was apparently pretty old.

[fighterchick]

I don't want to see my city elf Warden get the DA 2 elf/Nav'i treatment! I think the Warden is gone. Mention of the Warden would be fine, but I don't want to see mine again in any future games.

[Spitfire80]

There's also the matter that they changed the whole looks of their game. So you might not even recognise your warden in DA 3.

<-----is a elf mage, i do not want to see her DA2 style.

[wollert]

Could be a coincidence, and they´re just grasping at straws. Could be that they both somehow because of their signifigance to Thedas connect somewhere about something bigger (aka Revan).

Or my favourite, due to both their connections with the spirit known as the maker, now known as the abomination Flemeth, they´re both dragged in by her or against her in her scheme to stir up the continent of Thedas to whatever the goal is she has.

I however really doubt we´ll see the warden again (aside from a default body with a helmet/mask without a voice at most) and probably not even Hawke after DA2 is concluded, atleast not as PC.

Modifié par wollert, 14 mars 2011 - 09:38 .

[hismastersvoice]

Seriously, I'm expecting a canon version of Warden to pop up by DA3. I know I sound like a broken record, but it just makes sense with the direction the franchise is taking. We even know how he looks...

[Asch Lavigne]

i don't think they can definitely put the Warden in DA3 because some people imported a game where he/she died.

[BIO18]

I still strongly think the warden will be back . I just know it . The way some people want them back , the way at the end Leliana and the seekers search for the warden and Hawke . They are part of something a lot bigger . I dont think the warden job is over at all . Even more since the warden in ALL cases left the order

[XGrlGamerX]

Red Templar wrote...

How would that work? Hawke is a more closely defined voiced protagonist, and the Warden is a vaguely defined unvoiced protagonist. Both these characters are extremely accomplished, and they might not necessarily share any goals. Should they both be the protagonist in DA3, like some kind of buddy adventure? Should they both start at level one? Should the Warden get a brand new voice actor? Should the Warden be railroaded away from whatever decisions the player made for him to play peacemaker in the Chantry war?

I don't know. To me it seems far too clumsy and clunky to be plausible. They will probably get the same treatment that Revan, the Exile, the Hero of Nerverwinter etc. got. They are gone so as to be conveniently removed from the political landscape so that the writers don't have to deal with off screen non-canonical characters as world leaders, and can instead replace them with canonical characters who are infinitely easier to manage.

Have you never played the Mass Effect series? lol

[Sidac]

Talking with a mute is always fun!

sorry for the sarcasm.

[Rucer]

DA3 and you'll get to play Morrigans Archdemon child and kill everyone!

[Red Templar]

XGrlGamerX wrote...
Have you never played the Mass Effect series? lol

Shep died and got put back together though. If both the Warden and Hawke died and came back and had to relearn all their skillz, that would be a tad much.

[JamesX]

DA3 will be a new hero and be in Orlais

[HelfieHybrid89]

I knew it would either be in Oralis or Starkhaven... oh this is too good!

[Dragoonx89]

i reckon we will be following where sandal goes, after dragon age 2 sandal goes to oralis, i just get the feeling bioware will make them be with the hero of the game.