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[Wishpig]

Do you think the bad reviews and bad reception (bad for a bioware game I mean) will have any impact on an expansion or even the third game in the series???

I think DA2 took the mistakes of DA:O and attempted to remedy them. Some they fixed, some they tried to fix SO hard they broke it more, and generally I got the feeling DA2 was a step in the right direction, but it stepped to far and to fast and fell on it's butt.

I think an expansion for DA2 has a potential to be really good and would give them a chance to turn DA2 into a awesome game. You know... more spells... more diversity in locations... a tighter story... ect.

I think a third game would almost certainly be fantastic, as long as they take what worked in DA2 and meshed it with what worked in DA:O and did away with the weaknesses of both games. I'm sure they can find that perfect balance inbetween.

My only fear is we may not see a follow up...

[silver-crescent]

The game's selling. And a lot of people like it. I don't doubt there'll be tons of DLC and eventually DA3.

[Justin2k]

There will be a follow up because the game is selling well.

Don't believe that they care any more than sales and profits. They really don't care if you enjoy it or not, as long as you pay. And you have. So they'll release 3.

Now the problem is, a lot of us won't buy 3 because 2 was bad. So there probably won't be a 4. But by then they'll have a new game out and a lot of people will try it because "it's Bioware".

[Efesell]

Bad reviews?

I'm seeing a pretty positive critical response and decent sales.

I think they're doin' just fine.

[Gentle Leviathan]

I think Bioware is following a formula here:
They make a fantastic game(ME&DA) They then follow those up with DRASTICALLY changed sequels that are met unfavorably by the community, but are still good, then, they make a super-epic-head-exploding third game that blows everyone away and restores faith OR since we haven't seen a third one yet, it may become worse than the second.

[Efesell]

Never judge a franchise's future by a few people flipping out on a forum.

Dragon Age 3 will come out and most likely that one will "suck" compared to Dragon Age 2. Likewise with ME3 to ME2.

[AkiKishi]

This sort of reminds me of Westwood...

Most AAA titles will sell a mil on name alone. Whether it will outself DA is another matter.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 14 mars 2011 - 09:00 .

[Wishpig]

Efesell wrote...

Bad reviews?

I'm seeing a pretty positive critical response and decent sales.

I think they're doin' just fine.

Hence why I said "bad for bioware". An 8.0 is nothing shabby, but aside from that sonic game (which arguebly doesn't even count), DA2 has gotten BY FAR the most hate and bashing than anyother bioware game I can think of; from both fans and critics.

Bioware is used to having their games praised and beloved by the vast majority. DA2 is getting some praise and seems to be liked by the majority, but it isn't getting anywhere near that "instant classic/game of the year" vibe all previous bioware games have had... and I'm wondering if that will effect anything.

I hope not!

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 mars 2011 - 09:07 .

[Justin2k]

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

[Efesell]

Justin2k wrote...

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

Please, those user reviews are comical to look upon.

[GrandHarrier]

Justin2k wrote...

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

By that logic, something like Twilight is the greatest movie ever made.

You have to understand the background that much the backlash is coming from. It is a small but rather vocal PC minority that feel "slighted" that "their" game was "dumbed down" for the "console kiddies" (dramatic overuse of air quotes!)

Some of the knocks against the game are rather ridiculous and baseless, such as the slamming of the graphics. Sure, it isn't going to push your Crysis Max Settings machine, but it has a functional and in many ways, beautiful aethsetic. Also the combat; They wanted something completely different. Something slower and more methodical. Both styles have merit. But because "their" game isn't what they wanted, there is no acceptance of difference.

[TheNewKid]

Dragon Age 2 is the top 10 most pre-ordered game....

[Bibdy]

On the one hand I want it to do well so that we see more. On the other hand, I want the sales to drive the point home to the people at the top of the rungs, that the game needed more time to become great.

[silver-crescent]

Justin2k wrote...

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

More like at 7-9 if you look at basically any other site out there.

[Wishpig]

Justin2k wrote...

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

Ya... honestly user reviews are even LESS trustworthy imo.

Tons of people gave it a 0%. A generic bought out game critic is more trustworthy than someone giving it a freaking 0/10.

Go to metacritic, and LOOK at the 0% reviews. Well over a hundred of them and next to none of them are remotley constructive.

You take just the nonsensical 0's and the clearly fanboy suck up 10/10's out those out and the average would sky rocket.

Modifié par Wishpig, 14 mars 2011 - 09:18 .

[stu117]

There will be more content from this franchise

[Efesell]

Those metacritic user reviews are basically youtube comments.

Do you trust youtube comments.

[flushfire]

You are misled OP. Every bad review is just a 4chan or codex troll. The game is critically acclaimed. It is RPG of the decade according to PC Gamer. Study your maths, 80% is a very high score.

DA2 improved if not corrected everything that was a problem in DA:O:
-No more micromanaging your companions, it was not realistic.
-No more scrutinizing every single detail of equipment to see which one is minimally better.
-No more iso camera that no one ever used.
-No more stupidly slow combat that did was not even anywhere as tactical as DA2's.
-No more FF even on hard and the waves in every single fight proves that it is more tactical.
-No more needlessly complex dialogue and dialogue checks have been replaced with something more emotionally compelling.
-No more consequences means you don't need to worry about reloading or seeing what could be different, you don't miss anything because you forgot to pay attention. What if a friend called while I was playing?

DA2 remedied all this. Overall DA2 is just the superior game and people know it. So stop worrying.

Modifié par flushfire, 14 mars 2011 - 09:22 .

[Wishpig]

Efesell wrote...

Those metacritic user reviews are basically youtube comments.

Do you trust youtube comments.

No they're worse than youtube comments as youtube comments are prob composed of more people who watched the video than metacritic is composed of those who've actually PLAYED the game.

[Justin2k]

GrandHarrier wrote...
You have to understand the background that much the backlash is coming from. It is a small but rather vocal PC minority that feel "slighted" that "their" game was "dumbed down" for the "console kiddies" (dramatic overuse of air quotes!)

I play on 360 and I believe the game was dumbed down to expand to a bigger audience, in turn actually changing the genre of the game.

I feel a lot of this game is lazy, they've cut a lot of corners.

The designer pretty much stated he didn't like Origins and he had a better game in mind, and he still thinks he's created a masterpiece.

So honestly, to put all of the negativity down to PC gamers is wrong.  A lot of console gamers are disappointed at this guys new direction.

[tanerb123]

i dont know da 3 but da 4 will probably be console exclusive game.

[Wishpig]

flushfire wrote...

You are misled OP. Every bad review is just a 4chan or codex troll. The game is critically acclaimed. It is RPG of the decade according to PC Gamer. Study your maths, 80% is a very high score.

DA2 improved if not corrected everything that was a problem in DA:O. No more micromanaging your companions, it was not realistic. No more scrutinizing every single detail of equipment to see which one is minimally better. No more iso camera that no one ever used. No more stupidly slow combat that did was not even anywhere as tactical as DA2's. No more FF even on hard and the waves in every single fight proves this. Even the needlessly complex dialogue and dialogue checks have been replaced with something more emotionally compelling. Now you don't need to worry about reloading or seeing what could be different, you don't miss anything because you forgot to pay attention. What if a friend called while I was playing? DA2 remedied all this.

Overall DA2 is just the superior game and people know it. So stop worrying.

I am not misled. As I have already said an any game averageing above 70% garners is worth a look imo. A game averageing 80% is generally very good (albiet flawed)... which is how I would describe DA2.

BUT compared to bioware games it is bad... thats why I said just that in the OP.

[DarkSpider88]

Bunch of articles saying it is topping sale charts and as others have mentioned in the top ten pre-ordered game list. Hopefully we can rest assured we will get more adventures with our favorite companions in the land of Thedas.

[zebrastealer]

There is no way a sequel is in jeopardy. Doubtless DA2 will return a nice chunk of change for the money and resources they invested (not much). Will the sequel be better than DA2 or more of the same? That's the real question.

[Efesell]

I think it's kind of like Jade Empire.

Some people not quite sure what to make of it.