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[flushfire]

Yes, tons more DLCs with the familiar houses and caves. It is truly exciting.

[Zanderat]

flushfire wrote...

You are misled OP. Every bad review is just a 4chan or codex troll. The game is critically acclaimed. It is RPG of the decade according to PC Gamer. Study your maths, 80% is a very high score.

DA2 improved if not corrected everything that was a problem in DA:O:
-No more micromanaging your companions, it was not realistic.
-No more scrutinizing every single detail of equipment to see which one is minimally better.
-No more iso camera that no one ever used.
-No more stupidly slow combat that did was not even anywhere as tactical as DA2's.
-No more FF even on hard and the waves in every single fight proves that it is more tactical.
-No more needlessly complex dialogue and dialogue checks have been replaced with something more emotionally compelling.
-No more consequences means you don't need to worry about reloading or seeing what could be different, you don't miss anything because you forgot to pay attention. What if a friend called while I was playing?

DA2 remedied all this. Overall DA2 is just the superior game and people know it. So stop worrying.

Is this post satire?

[Trickybam]

Efesell wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

Critical reviews count for nothing. Something like IGN will never upset a company who gives them scoops.

User reviews are important, and it's averaging a 5/10

Please, those user reviews are comical to look upon.

1st  Critical reviews don't count for nothing, most people when looking at a game will checkout how it performed in the reviews, doesnt matter if its PC, Xbox or PS3 people will look to see if a games getting 93 % or 65 % and it effects their choice if they buy it or wait for something else, or maybe just wait to the price drops after a couple of months.

DA2 is getting some good reviews

2nd Users are more likely to post a negative review because their pissed  off, and pissed off people tend to want everyone else to know why their pissed off.

[bzombo]

there will be more. in the end, it's sales that drive the decisions, and da2 should get good sales.

[MrWakka]

At best, the reaction will cause them to re-evaluate the games direction in its third chapter. At worst, they'll ignore it and head off into Consoland and make DA3 a god of war clone.

As long as DA2 sells a million units, it is likely to get a sequel. Poor sales are a double-edged sword. On the one hand they might realize they failed on alot of aspects, but, on the other they might just determine that the need a even smaller budget on the next game, and EA will want to continue to exploit the franchise on a bi-yearly/yearly basis. (See: Medal of Honor series.)

Best case scenario: DA3 is released with a more tactical game that features better story and level design, and had a full development cycle, not a rush job.

Most likely scenario: More of the same, which thankfully I will not be pre-ordering and going to a midnight release for.

[wildcard4542000]

Justin2k wrote...

GrandHarrier wrote...
You have to understand the background that much the backlash is coming from. It is a small but rather vocal PC minority that feel "slighted" that "their" game was "dumbed down" for the "console kiddies" (dramatic overuse of air quotes!)

I play on 360 and I believe the game was dumbed down to expand to a bigger audience, in turn actually changing the genre of the game.

I feel a lot of this game is lazy, they've cut a lot of corners.

The designer pretty much stated he didn't like Origins and he had a better game in mind, and he still thinks he's created a masterpiece.

So honestly, to put all of the negativity down to PC gamers is wrong.  A lot of console gamers are disappointed at this guys new direction.

^This...I own Origins on 360 and PC. I loved it on both platforms. DAII was not dumbed down to fit on consoles, because Origins fit on consoles just fine. It was turned into an RPG-Lite to appeal to the more casual crowd and try to draw in people that passed up Origins because it was a CRPG. I'm disappointed in DAII for all of the reasons that have already been brought up on these forums.

[Persephone]

I doubt it. People whinging around release day is completely normal. In time those who loved the game will remain and those who hated it will move on to something else. Just like with DAO.

DLC, an expansion....DA3........can't wait to see where this is going next!

[Distilled]

The game is fine, just disappointing when compared to Origins. I will still probably buy the DLC so long as it features a unique dungeon map to whatever quest it involves.

[augustburnt]

flushfire wrote...

You are misled OP. Every bad review is just a 4chan or codex troll. The game is critically acclaimed. It is RPG of the decade according to PC Gamer. Study your maths, 80% is a very high score.

DA2 improved if not corrected everything that was a problem in DA:O:
-No more micromanaging your companions, it was not realistic.
-No more scrutinizing every single detail of equipment to see which one is minimally better.
-No more iso camera that no one ever used.
-No more stupidly slow combat that did was not even anywhere as tactical as DA2's.
-No more FF even on hard and the waves in every single fight proves that it is more tactical.
-No more needlessly complex dialogue and dialogue checks have been replaced with something more emotionally compelling.
-No more consequences means you don't need to worry about reloading or seeing what could be different, you don't miss anything because you forgot to pay attention. What if a friend called while I was playing?

DA2 remedied all this. Overall DA2 is just the superior game and people know it. So stop worrying.

Clearly you dont understand that DAO was a strat based RPG, sorry it was so hard for you. Complex Dialogue? You must be socially inept. No more consequences? WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING THIS GAME?!?!?!

[sympathy4saren]

Once Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning releases, people will forget about Dragon Age. At least many rpg fans will.

[Efesell]

Not even sure what that is.

[Malakar1]

Don't forget there is only a small minority of the dragon age players here on the forum. Even though some of them are crying and whining here doesn't mean the game isn't selling. It's always the same.

DA:O was so much better
Fallout 3 was so much better
Final fantasy 3 was so much better
ans so on and so on. Don't sweat it, I don't pay attention to the whinny minority. I give my opinion and suggestion and hope Bioware will listen trough all this mess.

[ObserverStatus]

When I bought my copy at Target, mine was the last copy they had and it was the first day. As far as I can tell, sales have been strong.

[errant_knight]

It's selling well, so that's not a problem. I'm unlikely to buy any more unless things move back toward Origins in a big way, though. I can't believe that a single franchise could have one game that I've played many times and am still playing, and another one that won't even get two playthroughs.

[Sir Drocanon]

I believe the reviews are slightly skewed at this point. The game is only 6 days old, and there is always a lot of negativity surrounding games close to the release because advertisements have done nothing but hype it up for X amount of months. Look at what happened to Alpha Protocol. It was so hyped up prior to release that when people actually played it, they hated because it didn't live up to the hype. It got initial reviews of 4 and 5 and now has ratings between 7 and 7.5. Not only that but critically, DA2 has scored in the high 90s. Now you can't look only at Critic Reviews, but they play a part.

[Persephone]

errant_knight wrote...

It's selling well, so that's not a problem. I'm unlikely to buy any more unless things move back toward Origins in a big way, though. I can't believe that a single franchise could have one game that I've played many times and am still playing, and another one that won't even get two playthroughs.

Tried it your way in a train wreck called Awakening. Big, epic fail. I'm glad that they went for something different. Esp. given how BUGGED, clichéd and problematic Origins itself was. Esp. how shallow the romances were and how little (Unless you were going for Alistair or Morri) they impacted anything.

[aksoileau]

The heavily vocal minority just likes to speak for everyone. They think that since they hate it then everyone should hate it. They think that since they bought BG, their opinion is better than the majority. My two cents.

[Hiei987]

DA2 is having good sales and mostly positive reviews. Do not take what you see on this forum for granted, a lot of people here for some reason assume that Bioware is obliged to work towards pleasing its minority fan base.

[Babli]

If sales of DA 2 will be good, EA will just continue in rushing next Bioware games. So I hope it wont sell so well. BiowEAr needs a lesson.

Just my opinion.

Modifié par Babli, 14 mars 2011 - 10:46 .

[errant_knight]

Persephone wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

It's selling well, so that's not a problem. I'm unlikely to buy any more unless things move back toward Origins in a big way, though. I can't believe that a single franchise could have one game that I've played many times and am still playing, and another one that won't even get two playthroughs.

Tried it your way in a train wreck called Awakening. Big, epic fail. I'm glad that they went for something different. Esp. given how BUGGED, clichéd and problematic Origins itself was. Esp. how shallow the romances were and how little (Unless you were going for Alistair or Morri) they impacted anything.

My way? I certain that you have no idea what 'my way' might be, because Awakening had as many problems as this. Although I know from previous conversations that we agree about nothing, so this shouldn't surprise me. Not quite sure why you seem to be making this personal. Pehaps just state you opinion next time and leave 'my way' out of it.

[Gatt9]

There are no sales figures. No one knows how well it is selling. Everyone claiming it's selling well or poorly at this point is full of it.

All we have atm is general sales indicators, Steam and Amazon. Those do not give hard numbers either.

There won't be any indications until the first week of April.

I would also greatly appriciate it if the posters above me would do one of the following two things...

1. Post a link to their survey of every gamer on the planet showing definitively that people who are dissatisfied are a minority.

2. Quit posting message board myths trying to make your opinion sound more important.

Thank you.

[NalimX]

Wishpig wrote...

Do you think the bad reviews and bad reception (bad for a bioware game I mean) will have any impact on an expansion or even the third game in the series???
[...]

My only fear is we may not see a follow up...

Hum - the reviews I read (which where the ones of the major gaming sites - I don't read small independent reviews, just as the vast majority of potential buyers) were overwhelmingly positive. Besides from the usual post-release flames (just look at the respective forums, it happens all the time with every game), I didn't notice any significant bad reception.

So I'm quite sure we'll see a follow up. On the other hand (somebody correct me if I'm wrong), Bioware never managed to produce three games of a series in its history.

[Mr.DAME]

give it a few months

[Thalorin1919]

Hopefully not.

I think this happens to alot of games. When ME2 was released, it was called a failure, now it's praised.

I'm not saying that DA2 is going to be praised or anything, but will most likely be viewed from a better light when people take a step back and begin to view the positives.

But I hear DA2 is selling well, which I'm not surprised, and it has gotten decently positive critical reviews. They will most likely make a DA3 - but I wouldn't count on an expansion so much, but who knows.

Hopefully they will just take the criticism well and take the game in a better direction. I liked that it was changing and progressing, I hope they don't regress because of the flack.

[Persephone]

errant_knight wrote...

Persephone wrote...

errant_knight wrote...

It's selling well, so that's not a problem. I'm unlikely to buy any more unless things move back toward Origins in a big way, though. I can't believe that a single franchise could have one game that I've played many times and am still playing, and another one that won't even get two playthroughs.

Tried it your way in a train wreck called Awakening. Big, epic fail. I'm glad that they went for something different. Esp. given how BUGGED, clichéd and problematic Origins itself was. Esp. how shallow the romances were and how little (Unless you were going for Alistair or Morri) they impacted anything.

My way? I certain that you have no idea what 'my way' might be, because Awakening had as many problems as this. Although I know from previous conversations that we agree about nothing, so this shouldn't surprise me. Not quite sure why you seem to be making this personal. Pehaps just state you opinion next time and leave 'my way' out of it.

Sorry, errant_knight, I was merely referring to "moving back to Origins". Awakening had many more problems than this. We agree about nothing? We both love Alistair. That's something, no?