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I would say (at the risk of being flamed to hell)....

That when younger, women like the bad boy/dangerous good looking type, but then after repeatedly being craped on from a great height, they come to a time in their life where they finally wake up and realise that the quiet boring geek guy is actually very loyal, dependable and worthy of being with and won't let them down as much.

Now yes, that is a generalisation, just as most young guys can't commit and all they want is a good time. (hence leading to my first point).

Bottom line is, though vastly different, what men and women want are actally very similar, we all want to be respected, loyal, appreciated, trusted and be honest with another.

Everything else, unless you are being shallow, is quite frankly unimportant.  Take looks for example.  Yes we all know first impressions matter.  But how much?  Can one really fall in love with looks alone?  If the answer is yes, you need help, sorry to say that.

You base your relationship of looks and sex, it will never last, because sooner or later, both will start to diminish, and then what are you left with?

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I think relationships should go back to the good ol' days where everything such as marriage was prearranged by a family or group of people. That would be awesome!

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That would suck. D:

Marrige i mean. I cant really see wanting to spend the wrest of my life with anyone. I've worked too hard for my independence to become interdipendent! D:<

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The only way I would consider getting married would be if I loved this person more than the fear...Call me naive or young, I happen to believe in meant to be and soul-mates. Not just partner soul-mates mind you, I believe there are soul-mate friends as well.
I can completely understand why people would want to keep their independence. I've seen a lot of hurt from marriage, but I am optimistic and hopefull :-).

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I never considered getting married until i was asked basically. I was somewhat backed into a corner because i didn't really want to turn them down since we were very happy but i'm a stubborn git usually and when i have an idea in my head like that marriage is pointless it can be very hard to change my opinions on it. In the end i gave up my views and went along with it and tbh i don't regret a thing.

I think opinions on things like marriage can change as you get older.

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Nothing wrong with marriage, as long as it's to the right person :)

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Autolycus wrote...

You base your relationship of looks and sex, it will never last, because sooner or later, both will start to diminish, and then what are you left with?

Chasing those half your age, and that works pretty well for some.

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Autolycus wrote...

I would say (at the risk of being flamed to hell)....

That when younger, women like the bad boy/dangerous good looking type, but then after repeatedly being craped on from a great height, they come to a time in their life where they finally wake up and realise that the quiet boring geek guy is actually very loyal, dependable and worthy of being with and won't let them down as much.

Now yes, that is a generalisation, just as most young guys can't commit and all they want is a good time. (hence leading to my first point).

Bottom line is, though vastly different, what men and women want are actally very similar, we all want to be respected, loyal, appreciated, trusted and be honest with another.

Everything else, unless you are being shallow, is quite frankly unimportant.  Take looks for example.  Yes we all know first impressions matter.  But how much?  Can one really fall in love with looks alone?  If the answer is yes, you need help, sorry to say that.

You base your relationship of looks and sex, it will never last, because sooner or later, both will start to diminish, and then what are you left with?


Actually, some women never stop seeking the "bad boy/dangerous good looking type," and they are called crack****s when they turn 30.

When your woman's looks diminish, you then turn into a total scumbag by ditching her for one in her 20's. It's actually a shockingly popular course of action.

Love is always somewhat selfish, but for some love is purely selfish which is why they can love for looks and sex and nothing else. It seems that selfishness is both the driving forces and the achilles heel of relationships.

Amirite?

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Chaos...you suggesting anything there dear? :P lmao

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I think it depends what i'm looking for in the relationship that drives what is most important to me.

1/ Re looks they have to be in proportion and healthy - nothing too extreme - but i'm just one of those people that find guys that are too attractive to other women quite unappealing in itself.

I am more drawn to taller men, but besides that i honestly don't have any preference.

2/ Money wasn't important when i younger, but when i became family minded it became more important. Not so that i could live in luxury, but so that my children wouldn't want. I didn't looks for guys based on how much money they had, but if i found someone with money then it was easier for me to overlook things that i was previously very intolerent of to the point where i started to fall for them and then it didn't matter.

3/ Personality is actually the point that i think people put way too much emphasis on. That might sound twisted but people seem so focused on finding their soul mate that it poisons perfectly decent relationships. People should settle if they find a good person.

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I recall likeing this one girl. who (I thought was hot) in high school. Everyone else, from their point of view thought she was a tad trashy. Well anyways, so I'm dating this girl for a period of a few months and I start liking this other girl in school. Then I date the girl in school, everything seems to go well untill I figure out she's a total nutcase.

From some odd reason! I was still interested in her, maybe because it's the wanting of something that I can't have. Maybe because I thought she was hot and deaf to what everyone said about her. Regardless, even after we broke up I remian interested in her, convinced that she was the one that got away. Flash Foward six years later.After no contact with her at all.

She contacted me out of the blue to hang out. Her looks have changed heavily, she had gotten heavier. She has a child and now lived in a trailor park with her husband (Who didn't know we were hanging out.) I asked her why she decided to be with him and I remember her response. "I don't know, he had that gangsta look. I was young and thought it was sexy at the time"

Now I wasn't some guy wearing tight shirts with pants pulled up above my waist. More of the leather jacket wearing with hair combed backwards. Anyways she had cheated on him with me. On his bed( Oh yea, I took pleasure in that) and then the day I was supposed to contact her so we could go the movies, he noticed her pager was beeping before he went to work.

They got into a fight, and he found out she wass cheating. And then "Slap" yes he slapped her across a face. The man who she decided to live with, have a child with had hit her over this. I in my life have not struck a female. She moved out.

Then this is something I will never understand she decided to "Give him another chance" why I asked, well "Because he's the father of my child" but the man hit you. I was stunned at this type of behavior by woman. First she decided to be with him because his "Gangsta Hood" was sexy. Are you kidding me. I don't think they worked out haven't her much from her since.

So If I dress in dirty pants, start saying "sup my people" I can be down too! (that was sarcastic) the second thing she was hit by him and wanted to give it another shot, well they didn't work out.

That's another thing I won't understand about females, guys hit hit them. They do it once, and then say I'm sorry won't happen again, then the cycle repeats itself untill she is beaten more violently each time, each time he says I'm sorry why do woman allow this?

Modifié par Joshd21, 15 mars 2011 - 06:40 .


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Joshd21 wrote...

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ahhhh, this thread is frustrating to read. pretty much what druss said, you can't boil down why women are attracted to this or that type of guy in a few simple statements. different girls are drawn to different kinds of guys, but a general tip is they are drawn to strong, confident men. (some would say a-holes) also, that rude poster jumped across an ocean to get to that conclusion! (though i am guilty of getting a kick out of it lol)


It's confirmed, somehow being a total jerk to people and acting dumb is considered self confidence. Even if these men are acting out of anger because of something in their childhood the woman taken is as accepting behavior. So in order to be more noticed around women, don't be senestive sweet to their feeling?

be a total jerk?


pretty much actually. i'm not really sure/remember why it is, or attempt to explain or theorize why it is, but chicks are drawn to jerks. confident men, guys that show they aren't really drawn to the girl, get their attention. things change drastically down the road when you get into the territory of a more serious relationship, but initially that is a major factor in the attraction. if i can offer some advice in dating (it also applies to life) is to get your feet wet and chat them up whenever there is an opportunity to do so. and now that i remember, looks are important, but not as important as you think. you have to look good and be in decent shape.

sidenote: like if you have some extra pounds, hit the gym and tone up a bit. slim is better. muscle tone is important, but tons of muscle mass is not as effective. they polled some chicks and thats what they preffered apparently.

money, you can actually rule out of the equation if you are talking about women. w/ personality and looks, that is with you. with money, that is about the chick wanting you to spend it on her.

these are general tips, but really, you will understand it all more once you start conversing and seeing how chicks are. and do not forget that a lot of times there is chemistry and it can't really be explained, it just is

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KenKenpachi wrote...

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Other than making generalisations about women, is there a point to this thread?


Not really but its something to talk about i guess. I figure the OP is looking for people to back up his opinions on why he can't get a gf or something because we are all too shallow and not because he has no testicles. :whistle:

LOL Damn that was cold.....just wow.

Hey now don't judge us folk with no testicles!! I never asked for my body to be this way!! :crying: stupid golem body...

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Captain Cornhole wrote...

I think relationships should go back to the good ol' days where everything such as marriage was prearranged by a family or group of people. That would be awesome!

Actully still happens, I know a girl that happend to actully, makes for a neat story.

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well, about some women's preferences changing as they get older, its true. some women after going out w/ the bad boy type after their younger years then realize hey, its not that kind of guy i should be going for, it should be the guy who actually cares about me (who up untill that time they have turned away) sometimes though, it is too late for them (looks wise). and yes, there are some women who as they get older, are enbittered cause they have not found someone who loved them. but remember, people are all different. some people get enbittered, while others are perfectly fine living a single life.

about josh's story on the ex, shooot, you should have told her that man was no good for her! though she might have questioned your motives for saying that, somebody should have. i don't know why women are like that and don't just leave, but heck, you can only lead camel to water!

edited for typos/corrections

Modifié par modjospinster, 15 mars 2011 - 10:41 .


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I'm not a girl. But they probably care about looks at first, then they find out how much money you have, and if you're rich, they'll "love" you.

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DinoCrisisFan wrote...

I'm not a girl. But they probably care about looks at first, then they find out how much money you have, and if you're rich, they'll "love" you.


I always thought it was the number of achievments you had that sealed the deal.

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slimgrin wrote...

DinoCrisisFan wrote...

I'm not a girl. But they probably care about looks at first, then they find out how much money you have, and if you're rich, they'll "love" you.


I always thought it was the number of achievments you had that sealed the deal.


So thats what an Achievement **** is? (No offence ment:innocent:)

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None taken. We have single handedly redefined the term. :wizard:

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*Nods in agreement*

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DinoCrisisFan wrote...

I'm not a girl. But they probably care about looks at first, then they find out how much money you have, and if you're rich, they'll "love" you.


1. I have have great looks

2. Money

equals Love?

Wow, well it pretty much sums up what I orginally thought about females. They are about looks, and money as a second and personality as a third why else would the shy senestive nerd be pushed to the back of the line to make room for the jock, who doesn't give a damn about the woman or her feelings.

Kinda messed up when you put it like that. I suppose our society we are made to think of looks and image are important factors. Watching TV ad's with Hollywood stars promoting products. We have the need to feel that image is important.

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They look all the same to me, so I go by personality.

If they sound alright from a conversational point of view, they get points.

If I invite them over to my family's house and they treat my family well, that gives a lot of points. Bonus points if they manage to keep this behaviour consistent.

If they come to pick me up instead of waiting at the driveway honking their horn like they've got to be somewhere else fast, insert additional points. Chivalry and all that.

Those conditions stated above don't go all the way to the altar, but it's a good head start.

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You do realise all girls aren’t the same right? Some girls are money grubbing ****es that treat their BFs like status symbols, some guys treat girls the same way. Most do not. (well atleast outside of highschool)
Since you asked and note that this is just me personally I don’t speak for all girls. Yes I am going to notice looks and yes it dose earn a guy points. May sound shallow but you can’t exactly judge of personality when you don’t know them. It is however more than just whether they are hot or not body wise. It’s also body language. If a guy carries himself in a very arrogant uptight manner or looks depressed it’s a turn off for me. If they seem confident but not arrogant, relaxed and fun then that’s good. Thats the kinda guy I like. Some girls like the akward shy guys. I'm more likely to talk to the nice, fun looking guy that the uber hot guy scowling in the corner. I might just ogle at the uber hot guys ass a little.  ;)
While looks might help to get a relationship going and physical attraction is a factor. It isn’t going to make a relationship last and the appeal of looks fades pretty fast if we arn't clicking in conversation. Personality trumps looks big time. I want someone that I enjoy the company of, that has similar interests and that I can actually talk to. I don't get in relationship with someone to look at them or just have sex.
As for money? I don’t give a ****. I don’t expect my BF to buy me things or take me out to dinner at his expense. I can pay for myself and don't need to leech cash off a guy. I never got why it suppose to be the guy who pays for things. It should be joint or whoever is in the better position to pay at the time.

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Joshd21 wrote...

Wow, well it pretty much sums up what I orginally thought about females. They are about looks, and money as a second and personality as a third why else would the shy senestive nerd be pushed to the back of the line to make room for the jock, who doesn't give a damn about the woman or her feelings.

Seriously, women (and men) are individuals with individual preferences: some people will prefer looks exclusively, some people will view relationships from a very mercenary point of view, some (or rather most) approach relationships with open honesty.  But tarring everyone with the same brush isn't exactly going to help you find the latter.

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I am attracted to that which must not be touched. I am he who is nerdiness incarnate, the right hand of the awkward, the fiend of a thousand bad dates. COWER BEFORE MY TRUE FORM! BOW TO THE NERD OF NERDS!

Modifié par Blood-Lord Thanatos, 19 mars 2011 - 10:53 .