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[jackalman2000]

I have not seen anyone say anything about the Wardens in the city of Kirkwall while your on the way to fight the Qunari. They said they was there on Warden business and they can not help you defeat the Qunari and they give you a amulet Wardens Oath. The reason they gave that they could not help you was they can not get politically involved because Wardens only fight the blight.
Now what was they doing in the city? What are they looking for? At the end two of the greatest people are missing, but are they really? We all know Flemeth died in DAO. But this "piece of Flemeth is still alive. Along with Morrigan and her child. Also the blight is 90years off. So here is what I think:
This "piece of Flemeth" goes off and finds Morrigan and takes her. Morrigans son/daughter is now 6-8 years old at the end of DA2. This Demi-god child, is a threat. So The Warden finds Hawke and ask for his/her help in tracking down Flemeth and the child. Now this would be a secret because if our Warden told what he did, having a child with Morrigan, then the other Wardens would be pretty angry so he must put this right. Why he ask Hawke to help is because Flemeth since she took over Morrigan's body/magic is the most powerful creature in the world. He needs the best to help kill Flemeth. Now this could take years to find her and the child may be 17-20 before he finds her. Also our Warden is working against a 30yr clock and 10 years have past so he only has 20 years left to find this Flemeth and the child.... So I am guessing Hawke and the Warden team up. This would be a great option because then you could import your Warden and your Hawke and play both of them in your party:)

[TJPags]

jackalman2000 wrote...

I have not seen anyone say anything about the Wardens in the city of Kirkwall while your on the way to fight the Qunari. They said they was there on Warden business and they can not help you defeat the Qunari and they give you a amulet Wardens Oath. The reason they gave that they could not help you was they can not get politically involved because Wardens only fight the blight.
Now what was they doing in the city? What are they looking for? At the end two of the greatest people are missing, but are they really? We all know Flemeth died in DAO. But this "piece of Flemeth is still alive. Along with Morrigan and her child. Also the blight is 90years off. So here is what I think:
This "piece of Flemeth" goes off and finds Morrigan and takes her. Morrigans son/daughter is now 6-8 years old at the end of DA2. This Demi-god child, is a threat. So The Warden finds Hawke and ask for his/her help in tracking down Flemeth and the child. Now this would be a secret because if our Warden told what he did, having a child with Morrigan, then the other Wardens would be pretty angry so he must put this right. Why he ask Hawke to help is because Flemeth since she took over Morrigan's body/magic is the most powerful creature in the world. He needs the best to help kill Flemeth. Now this could take years to find her and the child may be 17-20 before he finds her. Also our Warden is working against a 30yr clock and 10 years have past so he only has 20 years left to find this Flemeth and the child.... So I am guessing Hawke and the Warden team up. This would be a great option because then you could import your Warden and your Hawke and play both of them in your party:)

The Wardens were there for one of the three Alistair cameos.  That's it.

[Chadthesad]

Hopefully there will be a DA: II expansion. I'd love to see it focus around the missing years, the gaps between various Acts or the aftermath of the uprisings. They'll probably leave the latter for III. The writers will have to try and tie in what occurred in Witch Hunt. There's also the mystery behind Flemeth, only one real question was answered. They may try and tie in what Flemeth made Maric promise in the Stolen Throne. Flemeth seems highly regarded by the Dalish also.

[Celies]

Chadthesad wrote...

Hopefully there will be a DA: II expansion. I'd love to see it focus around the missing years, the gaps between various Acts or the aftermath of the uprisings. They'll probably leave the latter for III. The writers will have to try and tie in what occurred in Witch Hunt. There's also the mystery behind Flemeth, only one real question was answered. They may try and tie in what Flemeth made Maric promise in the Stolen Throne. Flemeth seems highly regarded by the Dalish also.

Not to mention Maric's and Fiona's child.

[jackalman2000]

TJPags wrote...

jackalman2000 wrote...

I have not seen anyone say anything about the Wardens in the city of Kirkwall while your on the way to fight the Qunari. They said they was there on Warden business and they can not help you defeat the Qunari and they give you a amulet Wardens Oath. The reason they gave that they could not help you was they can not get politically involved because Wardens only fight the blight.
Now what was they doing in the city? What are they looking for? At the end two of the greatest people are missing, but are they really? We all know Flemeth died in DAO. But this "piece of Flemeth is still alive. Along with Morrigan and her child. Also the blight is 90years off. So here is what I think:
This "piece of Flemeth" goes off and finds Morrigan and takes her. Morrigans son/daughter is now 6-8 years old at the end of DA2. This Demi-god child, is a threat. So The Warden finds Hawke and ask for his/her help in tracking down Flemeth and the child. Now this would be a secret because if our Warden told what he did, having a child with Morrigan, then the other Wardens would be pretty angry so he must put this right. Why he ask Hawke to help is because Flemeth since she took over Morrigan's body/magic is the most powerful creature in the world. He needs the best to help kill Flemeth. Now this could take years to find her and the child may be 17-20 before he finds her. Also our Warden is working against a 30yr clock and 10 years have past so he only has 20 years left to find this Flemeth and the child.... So I am guessing Hawke and the Warden team up. This would be a great option because then you could import your Warden and your Hawke and play both of them in your party:)

The Wardens were there for one of the three Alistair cameos.  That's it.

Right, but its the default story, Witch Hunt ect followed this story of either you or Alistair[/i] maken a baby with Morrigan, so who knows. Also Flemeth knows shes going to die, here "Appointment" she talks about when your escaping Lothering is just that. She has a plan, she saved the Warden. She saved Hawke. "chance or fate I can never decide" is what she says. She knows whats going to happen, so her letting  Morrigan go and having the baby must of been Flemeth's plan from the start. She also needed our Warden to kill the Blight, and Hawke to take the Piece of her to Kirkwall for what reason who knows.

[Auora]

jackalman2000 wrote...
.She also needed our Warden to kill the Blight, and Hawke to take the Piece of her to Kirkwall for what reason who knows.

Becuase most likley, the Warden has killed Flemmeth, per request of Morrigan. Sealing a peice of herself inside the amulet was her way of ensuring her survival. Morrigan had even said that Flemmeth probably wouldn't stay dead.

[Lethe Vas'Dur]

the grey wardens were probally looking into the icon that you bring back from the dead since they try another expedition down there or they are worried about anders and rightly so since he is an abomination. Then again meridith might be one depending on wither it was lyrunum over dose or a spirt.

[Romudeth]

Everwarden wrote...

I'm never, ever buying a Bioware product again if they ruin my warden with a voice actor and a dialogue wheel.

I hope they do this. One of the worst things about DAO was that the main character (aside from some one liners) didn't speak. If in an upcoming game or dlcs I get to hear the warden speak that would be fantastic. They could easily get the same voice actors who did the one liners and grunts for the various warden personalities and have them voice your Warden based off your saved data from DAO.

Bioware if you are reading this post I think you should consider putting a player's Warden into any upcoming Dragon Age games and have them voiced.

[Auora]

I would like to say that just because the warden didn't speak, didn't mean that they didn't have a voice.

I most definitely had a voice for my warden, and it was that of my own. While I do appreciate the voice over for Hawke, I do not see her as an extension of myself, whereas with the warden I did.

Modifié par Auora, 15 mars 2011 - 09:11 .

[Catalyst38]

After seeing the endings of the game i have to say all mages should be as the Saarebas every mage that was backed into a corner turned into a blood mage even the ones that still had a chance. Mages are dangerous evil creators that need to be keep in chains. I started the game as a mage sympathizer but as it progressed i slow but surly saw the truth you should as well.......Ataash qunari!


there is only the Qun.

[Statulos]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

They're collecting heroes. It also works if your Warden did the US. They just say that the Warden is gone.

Then, they should get an Eluvian and contact Tony Stark.

[GodBID]

Judging by the ending, i forsee and epic amount of DLC's to end / fix / ramp up the storyline even more, oh the joy!

[Dark Specie]

xnoxiousx wrote...

I like when Leliana says :''This can be no coincidence'' when refering to both the Warden and The Champion disappearences. It might mean that they will both be important for the next game, or maybe that they will no appear again, but im hoping for the first option. Would like to play as the warden again, and have Hawke as a companion

Huh.  Back when KOTOR 2 was still frash, I used to hope that the third KOTOR would be about stopping the True Sith with BOTH Revan and The Exile. The game would preferably be in two parts - one dealing with Revan & his/her merry band and then The exile & his/her merry band, both playing two separate parts in a plan to stop the True Sith. Alas, this never happened... Anyway, will keep this little hope of mine for the PC's/Main Characters of two games showing up in a third one, and if this game becomes DAO3, so much better

[Clonedzero]

the warden will die before or in the beginning of DA3 if he isnt already dead.
he's too vague and varied of a character to include as any significant part of the story.
hawke however could easily be in DA3

[Big_Choppa]

This is a fantasy game where there is no real good or bad guys. I like mages but damn, they were pretty bad. Templars were just as bad if not worse though.

[TysonL87]

Clonedzero wrote...

the warden will die before or in the beginning of DA3 if he isnt already dead.
he's too vague and varied of a character to include as any significant part of the story.
hawke however could easily be in DA3

now i would be angry if my warden dies and hawke is for da3.  da3 needs be about my warden not some rag to riches guy

[arathor_87]

TysonL87 wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

the warden will die before or in the beginning of DA3 if he isnt already dead.
he's too vague and varied of a character to include as any significant part of the story.
hawke however could easily be in DA3

now i would be angry if my warden dies and hawke is for da3.  da3 needs be about my warden not some rag to riches guy

I won't play DA3 if Hawke is the PC. DA2 was not a bad game but I liked DA:O much more. A better story, more impact and a better character.

DA2 was like a fantasy movie, you think you had choices but they didn't really matter, cause it would turn out in the same way no matter what. Your choices didn't have a big impact on the game as in DA:O.

DA:O was like an epic fantasy story/book that you wrote. you had several options. I like my Warden much more than Hawke, but DA2 is still a good game. Bring back the warden and the right to choose a race! Not only humans..

[Silveryne]

The warden would be difficult, if not impossible, to bring over to further dragon age games. It has to be about another party simply because everyone who did the ultimate sacrifice ending would be upset -- and make the game hard to comprehend by those who haven't played Origins. This is the same reason why the Old God Baby can never have a game revolve around it. There are people that went "Morrigan I see what ur doin thar!" and decided that sacrificing themselves was better than potentially having Morrigan raise some kid and potentially do to it what Flemeth wanted to do to her.

That's not to say, though, that your Warden can't play a part in things to come. But it can't be as the player-character.

[Melra]

xnoxiousx wrote...

Romudeth wrote...

Everwarden wrote...

I'm never, ever buying a Bioware product again if they ruin my warden with a voice actor and a dialogue wheel.

I hope they do this. One of the worst things about DAO was that the main character (aside from some one liners) didn't speak. If in an upcoming game or dlcs I get to hear the warden speak that would be fantastic. They could easily get the same voice actors who did the one liners and grunts for the various warden personalities and have them voice your Warden based off your saved data from DAO.

Bioware if you are reading this post I think you should consider putting a player's Warden into any upcoming Dragon Age games and have them voiced.

You need to get out and read some books. Just because there is no voice does not mean its worse da1 made me care for character more than hawke because he was not premade for me. Judging by your post your not very creative person and you need visual or sound and can think things up your self just like most kids these days.

Oh yay.. ''I am so better, I have such great imagination, while you don't, therefore your opinion is wrong'' person. If you love the mute ones so much, then you go read a book and let the rest of us enjoy the modern technology in all of it's glory. Go away, I'd love to see voiced Warden. It would've made DA:O much more fun for me. Only problem I can see with it, is that it could shorten the game somewhat. 

But I'd rather have him/her stay away, rather than play/see him/her again, if he/she is still mute. 

[Kylenne]

Silveryne wrote...

The warden would be difficult, if not impossible, to bring over to further dragon age games. It has to be about another party simply because everyone who did the ultimate sacrifice ending would be upset -- and make the game hard to comprehend by those who haven't played Origins. This is the same reason why the Old God Baby can never have a game revolve around it. There are people that went "Morrigan I see what ur doin thar!" and decided that sacrificing themselves was better than potentially having Morrigan raise some kid and potentially do to it what Flemeth wanted to do to her.

That's not to say, though, that your Warden can't play a part in things to come. But it can't be as the player-character.

Except this so isn't the case, even now--you must not have played a Mage Warden who survived Origins, because I can tell you point blank Bioware pretty much entirely disregarded that ending in DA2. My Warden was an Elf Mage who sided with the mages during the Circle Tower quest and got Alistair to declare the Fereldan Circle's independence as her boon. This was even reflected in the epilogue card, so it couldn't be handwaved. As far as I know not a single NPC in either Awakening or DA2 acknowledged that, it's like it was retconned out of existence. Not only that, but bat guano insane Cullen who flipped his taco when this happened, fled the Tower and was implied to have turned into a serial killer in my epilogue mysteriously gets shipped to Kirkwall like nothing ever happened, seemingly through the sheer power of fangirl prayers, and gets to be a hero. What?

So yeah, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that Gaider & co. have such great love of player-driven stories that they'll never do anything in the future with the Warden. If they want something to be canon for the sake of their story they will totally disregard any decisions we make in these games that will go against that. It especially pissed me off given this massive storyline they have going, if my Warden's ending had actually been taken into account it would have made DA2's stirrings of a mage vs. templar war far more compelling. At this point I'm basically looking to my own fanfic to continue the story I actually started in Origins, it actually fits the plot they have in mind more than this stuff they're shoving down our throats.

DA2 had a few bright points, don't get me wrong (though they mostly came way too late in the game), but it largely felt like I was at the mercy of a really bad rookie DM who had his/her own campaign's story all plotted out and the players were just there to be railroaded into it. Any "choice" was ultimately illusory and the NPCs were the real stars. It's pretty depressing, tbh.

[stuboy52]

i much prefer hawke and what is it with people hating a character that speaks i mean i didnt mind the warden but i prefer hawke especially since my one lost all his family making it more dramatic. any way i believe hawke will still be the main protagonist in DA3 for good reason plus DA2 was about the rise of Hawke and in that he/she only is responsible for this civil war he/she still has to save the world.

in short however the ending shows only that the warden and hawke are involved but we dont have enough information to assume more than that.

[Augustei]

xnoxiousx wrote...

So leliana is with this seeker group wtf? So wait are warden and champion conntected or what.

Im not sure how ending was if you sided with templar but they were looking for the champion something.

She is with the seekers because the women who saved her, Revered Mother Dorothea in Lelianas song ended up becoming the new Divine. And since Leliana helped her with the documents in Lelianas song she has a great deal of trust in her.

The endings are pretty much the same no matter what you do, 1 just gives you mage respect, the other templar respect.. The mages pretty much die in both scenarios but 1 has the Templars kneeling at your feet and making you viscount

[Lianaar]

I was surprised by this thread. On my first play through I got Anders to leave ("Just go.") and I thought that the reference of the Warden gone is related to him.

There is no saying that the Warden is -your- warden. There are many chances, maybe Anders, maybe your sibling that got turned into a Warden, maybe Alistair (who is a warden too), maybe your warden, or maybe a warden we have no clue about and will learn of later? Hey, might be even Oghren, no?

[Vertrucio]

"The Warden" is the player character from Origins, this has been very well established.

The ending is a big setup for the next game, which is fine by me.