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[Augustei]

I mean,its not like he has any influence outside Ferelden to help calm the situation anway.. If he went anywhere outside Ferelden like, Orlais or The Free Marches even.. they'd be like. Wtf? Whos this guy? Most of the public even doubt the blight is real.. So what help could he even be to the situation with the Templars / Mages???

[Brockololly]

The situation likely has expanded to involve more than just Templars and Mages.

[TJPags]

They could have just been drawing a comparison, you know.

Or may simply not know why the Warden disappeared. And wonder if it's connected, even if it turns out not to be.

[mredders91]

very true it could just be a comparision as both have disappeared some how tho i dont think are da:o warden will be coming back now as the taint leaves warden with a short life span.

flemeth and the old god child however i do see appear later on.

flemeth appear to be the engine moving the event of the world from behind the sences so it like she has a larger plan in action

[Soundsystem]

I think other countries in game, and their people, would definately know who the Hero of Ferelden was. Stopping the Blight that quickly was a really rare thing, usually they take a decade or so to defeat. So the Hero's story would likely have spread pretty wide. You hear tons of NPC's in the game talking about the Hero so I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all.

They are clearly looking for both the Warden and the Champion. Both of whom have apparently gone missing within a very small timeframe. Leliana and the Seeker think that the disappearances are related.

Likely the want both the Warden and the Champions help against whatever is looming. Considering both are impressive figures, who have good track records of stopping these kinds of things, and with powerful fighting skills to boot.

What is confusing about this?

[Z-Dragon]

I'm pretty sure that their concern is just that these two amazing heroes have just suddenly vanished, and considering how powerful they are, it shouldn't have happened unless they were willing to go.

[Fishy]

Soundsystem wrote...

You hear tons of NPC's in the game talking about the Hero so I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all.

Kirkwall`s rather close to Ferelden and you have a lot of refuge in the city.

[VettoRyouzou]

You do realize.. the Warden ended a Blight before it could even a mass to a global problem which most blight actually go to, He also Allied a Nation together to help fight off the blight why would you not one a hero who can also unite people to help you in a war?

[Augustei]

Soundsystem wrote...

I think other countries in game, and their people, would definately know who the Hero of Ferelden was. Stopping the Blight that quickly was a really rare thing, usually they take a decade or so to defeat. So the Hero's story would likely have spread pretty wide. You hear tons of NPC's in the game talking about the Hero so I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all.

They are clearly looking for both the Warden and the Champion. Both of whom have apparently gone missing within a very small timeframe. Leliana and the Seeker think that the disappearances are related.

Likely the want both the Warden and the Champions help against whatever is looming. Considering both are impressive figures, who have good track records of stopping these kinds of things, and with powerful fighting skills to boot.

What is confusing about this?

Because most people dont believe the blight was even real and most people wouldn't believe he was the hero of ferelden.. and even so, They wouldn't listen to him. The Hero of Ferelden would have no real influence outside Ferelden.. And Definitly not enough influence to stop a war

[Augustei]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

You do realize.. the Warden ended a Blight before it could even a mass to a global problem which most blight actually go to, He also Allied a Nation together to help fight off the blight why would you not one a hero who can also unite people to help you in a war?

Yes.. he Allied a nation, not the world.. and he ended a blight which its existence is doubted.

[VettoRyouzou]

XxDeonxX wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

You do realize.. the Warden ended a Blight before it could even a mass to a global problem which most blight actually go to, He also Allied a Nation together to help fight off the blight why would you not one a hero who can also unite people to help you in a war?

Yes.. he Allied a nation, not the world.. and he ended a blight which its existence is doubted.

Yes funny how you want to get a man who can ally a nation to try and bring peace to a world.. a man who worked closely with both mage and Templar alike I know it a shocking idea to actually give a man who show diplomatic ability a shot to bring peace to a world problem huh..

And the blight is not doubted.. a whole nation admit to it... so ya. there ya go again.

[Kathila]

Only one person claimed the Blight wasn't real, and he was an obvious crackpot.

[Soundsystem]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

I think other countries in game, and their people, would definately know who the Hero of Ferelden was. Stopping the Blight that quickly was a really rare thing, usually they take a decade or so to defeat. So the Hero's story would likely have spread pretty wide. You hear tons of NPC's in the game talking about the Hero so I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all.

They are clearly looking for both the Warden and the Champion. Both of whom have apparently gone missing within a very small timeframe. Leliana and the Seeker think that the disappearances are related.

Likely the want both the Warden and the Champions help against whatever is looming. Considering both are impressive figures, who have good track records of stopping these kinds of things, and with powerful fighting skills to boot.

What is confusing about this?

Because most people dont believe the blight was even real and most people wouldn't believe he was the hero of ferelden.. and even so, They wouldn't listen to him. The Hero of Ferelden would have no real influence outside Ferelden.. And Definitly not enough influence to stop a war

That's your opinion I suppose. However, it seems to me that the Warden would have influence in Ferelden, the Free March's (including Kirkwall), Antiva, Orlais and possibly Par Vollen and Seheron. Probably not in Teveinter though, unless based on respect of fighting skill. The Warden, depending on your origin, shouldn't have had the influence in Ferelden to do what they did and yet...

Besides that my Warden is also the Queen of Ferelden and the Warden-Commander of the Ferelden Grey Wardens. Which would lead to some serious influence in my books. Again, this isn't even taking into account the fighting prowess.

[Thomas9321]

Because the Warden has influence in Ferelden? And Hawke pretty much only has influence in the Free Marches. Don't forget that the Warden is very definitely the most powerful being in Thedas. It struck me several times in DA2 that (especially as mage) that the Warden is several times more powerful than Hawke.

Also, nowhere is the Blight truly doubted, it's universally acknowledged as a Blight. Stopping a Blight gains you considerable political pull.

[Maclimes]

Also bear in mind that the last DLC for Origins, Witch Hunt, occurs around the time that Hawke goes on his Deep Roads expedition. In other words, more than 6 years before the end of the game. Who knows what the Warden has been up to during that time?

[VettoRyouzou]

Soundsystem wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

I think other countries in game, and their people, would definately know who the Hero of Ferelden was. Stopping the Blight that quickly was a really rare thing, usually they take a decade or so to defeat. So the Hero's story would likely have spread pretty wide. You hear tons of NPC's in the game talking about the Hero so I wouldn't say it's a stretch at all.

They are clearly looking for both the Warden and the Champion. Both of whom have apparently gone missing within a very small timeframe. Leliana and the Seeker think that the disappearances are related.

Likely the want both the Warden and the Champions help against whatever is looming. Considering both are impressive figures, who have good track records of stopping these kinds of things, and with powerful fighting skills to boot.

What is confusing about this?

Because most people dont believe the blight was even real and most people wouldn't believe he was the hero of ferelden.. and even so, They wouldn't listen to him. The Hero of Ferelden would have no real influence outside Ferelden.. And Definitly not enough influence to stop a war

That's your opinion I suppose. However, it seems to me that the Warden would have influence in Ferelden, the Free March's (including Kirkwall), Antiva, Orlais and possibly Par Vollen and Seheron. Probably not in Teveinter though, unless based on respect of fighting skill. The Warden, depending on your origin, shouldn't have had the influence in Ferelden to do what they did and yet...

Besides that my Warden is also the Queen of Ferelden and the Warden-Commander of the Ferelden Grey Wardens. Which would lead to some serious influence in my books. Again, this isn't even taking into account the fighting prowess.

Also to add to this He/She may be the Hero of Ferelden but he a Warden fist and Wardens authority stretches almost world wide.

[WhiteKnyght]

The Warden is a powerful person who has shown great ability to rally people under his banner. Not to mention he is famous all over the continent for ending the Blight.

he would be a help to them.

[Jaredor]

Even if people doubted it was a blight you are talking about someone who has experience in raising armies and leading them to victory despite the odds, now in a world on the brink of war that is definately the kind of person I would want on my side. Plus the warden would be a legend among the Grey Wardens after what happened in both DAO and DAA so you would also potentially have the Grey Wardens, an elite military force, on whoevers side the Warden is on.

[Augustei]

Thomas9321 wrote...

Because the Warden has influence in Ferelden? And Hawke pretty much only has influence in the Free Marches. Don't forget that the Warden is very definitely the most powerful being in Thedas. It struck me several times in DA2 that (especially as mage) that the Warden is several times more powerful than Hawke.

Also, nowhere is the Blight truly doubted, it's universally acknowledged as a Blight. Stopping a Blight gains you considerable political pull.

Only Influence in Free Marches? Hawke has influence in the Templar order / Circles.. whereas the warden has influence in 1 circle..
The warden the most powerful being in Thedas? I very much doubt that, Theres Hawke, The Divine and The First Warden to contend with there.

[Stalky24]

Warden is a living legend. His kind of story is something people like Varric like to tell to the others. Everyone is familiar with Hero of Ferelden, or better, with his legend.

About other places, I think my Warden would have high influence in Tevinter, since he is only living master of Arcane Warrior art and extremly skilled Blood Mage.

[AlexXIV]

Because the Warden is probably the greatest hero of his/her age. Hawke is surely important, maybe even more important in a way. But the Warden is the one who slew the greatest threat Thedas knows, the Archdemon. Not to mention, Leliana is a seeker. And probably been spying all along. Funny that it surprised me since she is a bard after all.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 15 mars 2011 - 12:37 .

[Augustei]

Jaredor wrote...

Even if people doubted it was a blight you are talking about someone who has experience in raising armies and leading them to victory despite the odds, now in a world on the brink of war that is definately the kind of person I would want on my side. Plus the warden would be a legend among the Grey Wardens after what happened in both DAO and DAA so you would also potentially have the Grey Wardens, an elite military force, on whoevers side the Warden is on.

He can obtain aid for blights, he cant raise armies for another purpose.. The Dalish and Dwarves will not give him aid in some Foreign war. They would be idiots to do that. Why would they get involved in someone elses war? When you make Allies.. You Make Enemies.
And he certainly couldn't demand aid from the circles since they will be to busy fighting templars

[Augustei]

AlexXIV wrote...

Because the Warden is probably the greatest hero of his/her age. Hawke is surely important, maybe even more important in a way. But the Warden is the one who slew the greatest threat Thedas knows, the Archdemon. Not to mention, Leliana is a seeker. And probably been spying all along. Funny that it surprised me since she is a bard after all.

Yeah but even the divine has a mysterious and apparently dark past.

[AlexXIV]

If people don't believe this was a Blight, then how do they believe the other 4 were. They happened fourhundret and more years ago. That's like 20 generations. And from this Blight you can still investigate the body of the dead archdemon and see the blighted lands.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 15 mars 2011 - 12:41 .

[Aurawolf]

By the same logic used what influence would the Champion of Kirkwall? The only ones it might hold some weight is the Qunari. Also don't forget who seems to have some sort of influence in the Chantry now, and she knows the Warden.