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[Ignoble Fat Man]

David Gaider wrote...

MaglorArcanist wrote...
The problem is after 10 Years of story, you wait the start of chapter 4... and the game end.
It's the strange feeling of have buyed for 60 bucks the first part of the game but not the ending...

No offense, but just because the story has a place to go next doesn't mean that there wasn't an ending. If that was the case, then only stories that concluded with the protaganist dying and all loose ends neatly tied up would be considered to have actually ended.

I like the story but TBH the story is covering 7 years not 10.  It doesn't matter that the dwarf is telling the story 10 years after the beginning....the story he is telling spans 7 years.  The dwarf could easily have been telling the story 30 years in the future but the story would still only cover 7 years not 30 years.  

Great game though....I am going to play it through probably 3 - 4 times.  Every class once.

[David Gaider]

Ignoble Fat Man wrote...
I like the story but TBH the story is covering 7 years not 10.  It doesn't matter that the dwarf is telling the story 10 years after the beginning....the story he is telling spans 7 years.  The dwarf could easily have been telling the story 30 years in the future but the story would still only cover 7 years not 30 years.

I suppose. It really doesn't matter to me-- perhaps they thought ten years sounded cleaner than seven? If someone wants to quibble about time they "played" versus "didn't play", the story doesn't cover seven years either as you don't play all the intervening time. But quibbling is, I suppose, de rigeur for a forum like this.

[NinaDA]

David Gaider wrote...

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No offense, but just because the story has a place to go next doesn't mean that there wasn't an ending. If that was the case, then only stories that concluded with the protaganist dying and all loose ends neatly tied up would be considered to have actually ended.

To underline David's point, one of my favorite opening lines from a novel: a story has no beginning or end: arbitrarily one chooses that moment of experience from which to look back or from which to look ahead.

[Ghurshog]

David Gaider wrote...

Ignoble Fat Man wrote...
I like the story but TBH the story is covering 7 years not 10.  It doesn't matter that the dwarf is telling the story 10 years after the beginning....the story he is telling spans 7 years.  The dwarf could easily have been telling the story 30 years in the future but the story would still only cover 7 years not 30 years.

I suppose. It really doesn't matter to me-- perhaps they thought ten years sounded cleaner than seven? If someone wants to quibble about time they "played" versus "didn't play", the story doesn't cover seven years either
as you don't play all the intervening time. But quibbling is, I suppose, de rigeur for a forum like this.

The problem simply could have been solved by the Seeker having a line in her openning dialog that was "10 years ago you were there at the beginning"

This frames the time context of the conversation between the Seeker and Varric nicely. But someone inside the Dev team would have had to have a problem with the oddity being discussed in this thread to even have considered such dialog necessary. 

Also there is nothing to say that future DLC for DA2 (if there is any relevant story DLC) couldn't be in those 3 missing' years'. 

/shrug

Modifié par Ghurshog, 15 mars 2011 - 07:28 .

[kdarnell]

Personally, the ending was a bit anticlimatic for me...although it does leave things open for more DLCs and sequels

[MajorStranger]

David Gaider wrote...

Ignoble Fat Man wrote...
I like the story but TBH the story is covering 7 years not 10.  It doesn't matter that the dwarf is telling the story 10 years after the beginning....the story he is telling spans 7 years.  The dwarf could easily have been telling the story 30 years in the future but the story would still only cover 7 years not 30 years.

I suppose. It really doesn't matter to me-- perhaps they thought ten years sounded cleaner than seven? If someone wants to quibble about time they "played" versus "didn't play", the story doesn't cover seven years either as you don't play all the intervening time. But quibbling is, I suppose, de rigeur for a forum like this.

Did you expect us not to? There's still some grudge over the big community celebration event aka lame bazaar of last year. The internet never forget pal.

[Lurchibald]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Lurchibald wrote...

I agree here, hell, it actually felt that the game had gotten even better and boom! ending cinematic, your choices didn't really affect too much for the end

Spoiler

Anders will always blow up the chantry, no matter what. the first enchanter will always turn to blood magic and the knight-commander will always go nuts and it ends up basically at one of two linear points, either you side with the mages or the templars

Well look at it this way. In Origins the Archdemon always dies, Riordan always dies, and Sandal always slaughters a large group of Darkspawn.

Some things have to be set in stone. Like Meredith. xD

Ugh, i knew someone would come out with this. Yes Riordan always dies, but your character really doesn't have much to do with him (and it makes sense in the realms of the story), and yes the Archdemon always dies BUT the way it dies is entirely up to you, you can sacrifice yourself, Alistair or Loghain or you (if male), Alistair or Loghain can sleep with Morrigan so nobody has to sacrifice themselves. but how you choose to kill the archdemon at the end only has minor changes to the story. 

[DA2 SPOLIERS]In DA2 however you can go through the whole game supporting Mages and if you want right at the end you can change your mind and side with the templars to get an opposite ending to the one you were working toward (In siding with the templars i would understand why the First Enchanter turned to blood magic, but there is absolutly no point to him doing it when you are on his side)[/SPOLIER]

EDIT: And lol at that Meredith bit! is it just me or does [APOILER]Meredith look like some of those Prothean husk things from mass effect after she turns into a statue?[/SPOILER] lol

Modifié par Lurchibald, 16 mars 2011 - 12:19 .

[TJPags]

Well, we found the missing 3 years.

Yay?

[Carmen_Willow]

David Gaider wrote...

MajorStranger wrote...
No offence, but I don't give a damn about the three years in between BECAUSE WE DON'T PLAY IT! a 10-15 minutes cinematic event doesn't mean the game has a 10 year span.

Is there a difference? The story takes place over 10 years total. We could have made larger jumps between the acts, if you preferred, but you aren't "missing" anything. It's not like you played over all the intervening years anyhow, correct?

I would have appreciate a few more cutscenes to kinda cover the years we were missing.  I would have loved to have seen Hawke in the mercenary band, for instance.....just saying.

[Lurchibald]

David Gaider wrote...

MaglorArcanist wrote...
The problem is after 10 Years of story, you wait the start of chapter 4... and the game end.
It's the strange feeling of have buyed for 60 bucks the first part of the game but not the ending...

No offense, but just because the story has a place to go next doesn't mean that there wasn't an ending. If that was the case, then only stories that concluded with the protaganist dying and all loose ends neatly tied up would be considered to have actually ended.

Look, no offence here either but when a story ends without even telling you what your companions got up to or in fact  without telling you much of anything, why even have that short ending FMV (although why the scene at the end (outside of where Varric is talking) was a pre-rendered cutscene is beyond me) why not just fade-to-black and put up big bold white letters on the screen that read TO BE CONTINUED because that is all i got from the end. Unlike the Mass Effect series where the end of both Mass Effect 1 and 2 you get a satisifing conclusion to the story you were playing but it still lets you know that there is more to come.

[Lurchibald]

Double post, please delete

Modifié par Lurchibald, 16 mars 2011 - 12:21 .

[Evil Asch]

I don't really think it's a question of the timeline per se but rather pacing. The interplay between the companions and Hawke and the mages Vs. Templars takes time to develop but then it's all 'resolved' in a massive rush. It's...well not dissatisfying so much as bewildering.

[jorgel_]

I totally agree with the autor of this post, I loved the whole story and I loved the unfinished ending as well. Happy Epic LOTR endings are good, but already there are many of them out there. No, this has a different, greater, significance.

Can't wait for more Hawke covering these 3 missing years, as DLC or even an expansion o DA3 ;D

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I always thought he implication of the Chantry Sister in the brothel was that she gave you a sermon and left.