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[Gabey5]

 It seems that mages are either being opressed or rule with an iron fist in thedas. The best solution for them in the future of the series is to form their own order. They govern themselves and hunt down blood mages. All mages must join. Something like the Jedi order, they must still function according to laws of the nations but do their own magic internally amongst themselves

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

[Gabey5]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

Your might be spending too much time with the Iron Lady 

[Arcadionn]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

You'd turn children into packaged meat with a stone? I think someone would like to be Meredith IRL.

[Malja]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

Ahahah. And suddenly all the starving of Thedas produce mage offspring.

[JedTed]

Gabey5 wrote...

 It seems that mages are either being opressed or rule with an iron fist in thedas. The best solution for them in the future of the series is to form their own order. They govern themselves and hunt down blood mages. All mages must join. Something like the Jedi order, they must still function according to laws of the nations but do their own magic internally amongst themselves

Agreed.  They also need to educate their pupils on WHY blood magic is forbidden so that they aren't tempted to use it.

[Mahtisonni]

I think the reason why blood magic is forbidded is pretty self explanatory.
If you don't have your body, mind and soul destroyed from using it then somebody else will make sure you don't live long enough to enjoy the benefits.

Could also be they only give the religious explanation and think it's enough.

Modifié par Mahtisonni, 15 mars 2011 - 01:18 .

[LadyVaJedi]

Good point Gabey. I was thinking the same thing. I kind of like the idea teach the pupils how to defend act of blood magic.

[AlexXIV]

The solution will be that all of thedas is going near abyss and only one person can save the world.

Other than that, I don't think the mages are capable of policing themselves. It seems almost obvious that mages in desperation or struggle for power lean towards bloodmagic and conjuring demons. And obviously one of the problems of the Dragon Age is that more and more mages are born. More than ever in Thedas. So there is something big to happen. Maybe the return of the Maker or whatever gods, maybe the end of the world, maybe the end of magic.

However the problem with policing mages by for example templars is to make sure they don't abuse their power. Since mages are obviously not the only ones who tend to abuse power. Maybe Temlars should be like Wardens. Not bound to a religion or other powerful institutions, but merely focused on mages. Like Wardens are focused on the darkspawn.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 15 mars 2011 - 01:26 .

[Mahtisonni]

Best anwser would be to give mages logical reason why it's dumb to resort to blood magic along with training every single soldier and guardsman with templar anti-magic skills.
This way it would be the same situation as for normal people.
Start a rampage? guards will kill you.

What could chantry possibly gain from keeping them a secret?

Modifié par Mahtisonni, 15 mars 2011 - 01:30 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Arcadionn wrote...

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

You'd turn children into packaged meat with a stone? I think someone would like to be Meredith IRL.

Sadly, Meredith was not right for the job. She felt too much compassion for her wards (I'm actually serious; the raw emotion on her face when she said she knew how she was harming innocents spoke volumes of how much it pained her to do what she did).

If I had been Knight Commander, there would never have been a mage uprising. Killing them as children also removes much of the danger element that comes from killing them as adults. Then the Templars could spend their time simply hunting down the apostates that managed to slip through their nets and not spend most of their time policing a bunch of dangerous adults in towers.

The Chantry would have to make a concerted effort to re-weave their tales of Mages into a more negative light as well (the uprising certainly won't hurt in that regard), so that the brainwashing of the major religion of Thedas could help counter personal dismay  individuals may  have about this cleansing due to having relatives who are mages.

Prisons make no sense unless you are using them to rehabilitate individuals to spit them back out into society. Prison as a life long sentence is just a waste of resources who's only purpose is to assauge some weak willed people who think they're being humane by letting these people grow up and live their lives imprisoned. Or, more accurately, they're gutless cowards unable to make the hard choices in life so take the easy one and hope it doesn't bite them in their butt, or at least waits till the next generation to bite THEM in their butt instead.

I was being sarcastic about processing them as meat products, but was deadly serious about killing them as children. This isn't some fairy tale utopian society filled with individuals singing love and peace while wielding great power only for the benefit of society.

Modifié par kjdhgfiliuhwe, 15 mars 2011 - 01:35 .

[Malja]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Arcadionn wrote...

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

You'd turn children into packaged meat with a stone? I think someone would like to be Meredith IRL.

Sadly, Meredith was not right for the job. She felt too much compassion for her wards (I'm actually serious; the raw emotion on her face when she said she knew how she was harming innocents spoke volumes of how much it pained her to do what she did).

If I had been Knight Commander, there would never have been a mage uprising. Killing them as children also removes much of the danger element that comes from killing them as adults. Then the Templars could spend their time simply hunting down the apostates that managed to slip through their nets and not spend most of their time policing a bunch of dangerous adults in towers.

The Chantry would have to make a concerted effort to re-weave their tales of Mages into a more negative light as well (the uprising certainly won't hurt in that regard), so that the brainwashing of the major religion of Thedas could help counter personal dismay  individuals may  have about this cleansing due to having relatives who are mages.

Prisons make no sense unless you are using them to rehabilitate individuals to spit them back out into society. Prison as a life long sentence is just a waste of resources who's only purpose is to assauge some weak willed people who think they're being humane by letting these people grow up and live their lives imprisoned. Or, more accurately, they're gutless cowards unable to make the hard choices in life so take the easy one and hope it doesn't bite them in their butt, or at least waits till the next generation to bite THEM in their butt instead.

I was being sarcastic about processing them as meat products, but was deadly serious about killing them as children. This isn't some fairy tale utopian society filled with individuals singing love and peace while wielding great power only for the benefit of society.

You'd make a hell of a read. Seriously.

[atheelogos]

Mahtisonni wrote...

Best anwser would be to give mages logical reason why it's dumb to resort to blood magic along with training every single soldier and guardsman with templar anti-magic skills.
This way it would be the same situation as for normal people.
Start a rampage? guards will kill you.

What could chantry possibly gain from keeping them a secret?

"It takes incredible focus to wield magic, but even greater will to withstand it." I don't think everyone can learn those talents. Its like fighting. Some people are born to do it others not so much.

[atheelogos]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Arcadionn wrote...

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

The best solution is to kill them as children. Process their bodies into packaged meat products to feed the starving of Thedas. Solve two problems with one stone.

You'd turn children into packaged meat with a stone? I think someone would like to be Meredith IRL.

I was being sarcastic about processing them as meat products, but was deadly serious about killing them as children. This isn't some fairy tale utopian society filled with individuals singing love and peace while wielding great power only for the benefit of society.

disgusting:mellow:

[Everwarden]

JedTed wrote...

Agreed.  They also need to educate their pupils on WHY blood magic is forbidden so that they aren't tempted to use it.

The problem is that there isn't a good reason blood magic is forbidden. The drawback to blood magic is that you have to learn it from demons in contemporary Thedas, but that isn't a problem inherent in blood magic, that's a problem due to the Chantry forbidding it. 

[Everwarden]

Malja wrote...
I was being sarcastic about processing them as meat products, but was deadly serious about killing them as children. This isn't some fairy tale utopian society filled with individuals singing love and peace while wielding great power only for the benefit of society.

I suspect this is just a trolling post meant to upset people, but I'll assume you're serious for the moment and tell you why that's retarded. I'll even tie a hand behind my back and ignore the obvious moral problem with killing babies. 

1. Unless you have a magic switch you can pull to kill all mages at once, what you're suggesting is that you want not only for every circle in the world to rebel (like they did), but for every mage alive to view the Chantry as a baby killing organization. That's a lot of motivation to give people who are essentially walking howitzers to want to wipe out everyone alive associated with the Chantry. I doubt the Chantry would survive the backlash of something like that.

2. Assuming the Chantry successfully wipes out the mages without getting completely turned to ashes in the process.. "Oh look! There! On the horizon! It's Qunari Ironclads! Er.. are there any mages left to fight them off, this time? No? Any ideas on how to stop them from rolling over us? No? ****."

3. Assuming the Chantry successfully eradicates the mage threat, fight off the technologically superior, highly disciplined Qunari, they still have a problem:
Razikale, after poking his noggin out of the Deep Roads: "Hi guys! You ready for the sixth blight? Er.. you seem to be a bit broken and bruised after those pointless wars you just fought. Woops!"

Modifié par Everwarden, 15 mars 2011 - 03:07 .