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[Fishy]

My level 10 warrior after 2 attack all of his stamina's gone lol(without using any substained warrior abilities) .So i just play the overpowered Morrigan and spam cone of cold and Electricity.

I play a warrior only for roleplay .. But really he's simply bad...i play a 2Hander and WOW ..
My first playthrough i was a dual wielding dwarf berserker and he was much more powerful than my 2 hander it's not even funny.Now it's like i'm weightlifting and not weilding a sword.


VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM


5 sec later


VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Out of endurance

YAY

[Malecite00]

I used to flame people HARD that complained the game was too easy on Nightmare. Now im playing my 2nd char and the games difficulty is annoyingly skewed in the opposite direction. Even on nightmare none of the fights are challenging, with the exception of dragons and revenants. Im playing a dual wielding warrior and I can currently completely slaughter everything so I dont think difficulty needs any tweaking really. The game isn't very difficult once you get a handle on the tactics system and learn to stack the mages in your party.



The game really is way too centric on mages, another thing I used to debate for the opposite corner. Unlike other RPGS where lower tier spells get less effective as the game wears on, in DAO they actually get MORE effective. Elemental spells and proper tactics really remove that big difficulty gap. So learning to build your support character tips the scales big time.

[Shadow_Viper]

Kahryl wrote...

Magilicotti wrote...

Shut the **** up already, for the love of everything holy in the world, shut. the. ****. up.

No keep going Schyzm, maybe you'll get one of them to say how the lore dictates warriors and rogues should be useless again

If you're finding Rogues and Warriors to be useless, you're doing something wrong.

IFL2P.

[Shadow_Viper]

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Buckmanius wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

yes that's an excellent trade.  mages annihilate everything in combat and rogues are locksmiths.  maybe if bioware taught rogues how to be plumbers they could double their usefulness.

If i give you a lol  to the plumber thing  would you please respond to the question:   Why continue to whine?

because I want to.  the game's combat mechanics ARE broken.  not just slightly imbalanced, or "its a single player game so we didnt bother to fine tune the balance."  they are completely and totally shattered broken lying on the floor screaming in pain.

just for example baldur's gate 2 is vastly superior, of course for that they just transplanted the dnd system which DID HAVE balance considerations in it.  not perfect mind you, but the idea of balance isn't an evil concept in dnd.  

The combat mechanics are far from broken. I would suggest Learning To Play.

considering I annihilate the game at nightmare difficulty in which manner would you consider me to be incapable of playing?  or was that just another throwaway insult by another ignorant person?

Ah, so you're just whining for the sake of whining then.

In that case, IFSW.

I'm addressing the issue of awful unbalanced uninteresting and unfun combat mechanics that significantly reduce the adventure and excitement of my experience.

"Balance" is a matter of opinion.

The game is far from uninteresting and unfun.

IFSW.

[Shadow_Viper]

Buckmanius wrote...

Well someone clearly has a "schism" in his frontal lobes. Thus let us shake our heads in pitty and move on. If they were to "nerf" the mage, would we expect them to re-write all of the lore pointing to the mage being " a very real threat" to all? Would we want the elimination of the templars? We would not need them to exist if everyone was the same level of threat. While were at it there is no real reason for the mage tower, mages could learn anywhere they pose no more of a threat than rogues. I guess they should just forget the whole idea of making games as they have failed so utterly with this one. Infact they should refund the cost of the game to us. I know one of us could use the money to buy more DOPAMINE.

You know you change one of the basic tenants of a game world you walk down a slippery slope.

Here's hoping you all have good mental health. Oh and FFS could you please call us ****'s so you could end this thread already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Ha ha, well said.

[Paintbalisgood4u]

Any word of the king of orzammar quest bug?

[Laceit]

No time. Still counting.

[Schyzm]

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Buckmanius wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

yes that's an excellent trade.  mages annihilate everything in combat and rogues are locksmiths.  maybe if bioware taught rogues how to be plumbers they could double their usefulness.

If i give you a lol  to the plumber thing  would you please respond to the question:   Why continue to whine?

because I want to.  the game's combat mechanics ARE broken.  not just slightly imbalanced, or "its a single player game so we didnt bother to fine tune the balance."  they are completely and totally shattered broken lying on the floor screaming in pain.

just for example baldur's gate 2 is vastly superior, of course for that they just transplanted the dnd system which DID HAVE balance considerations in it.  not perfect mind you, but the idea of balance isn't an evil concept in dnd.  

The combat mechanics are far from broken. I would suggest Learning To Play.

considering I annihilate the game at nightmare difficulty in which manner would you consider me to be incapable of playing?  or was that just another throwaway insult by another ignorant person?

Ah, so you're just whining for the sake of whining then.

In that case, IFSW.

I'm addressing the issue of awful unbalanced uninteresting and unfun combat mechanics that significantly reduce the adventure and excitement of my experience.

"Balance" is a matter of opinion.

The game is far from uninteresting and unfun.

IFSW.

yes balance is completely and totally subjective.  why is it the ppl w/ the worst opinions always imagine the world is purely subjective...I think there's some strange coincidence going on there.

[Kolaris8472]

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kahryl wrote...

Magilicotti wrote...

Shut the **** up already, for the love of everything holy in the world, shut. the. ****. up.

No keep going Schyzm, maybe you'll get one of them to say how the lore dictates warriors and rogues should be useless again

If you're finding Rogues and Warriors to be useless, you're doing something wrong.

IFL2P.

Alright, this is the essence of what you're dong:

You're not finding Mages ridiculously overpowered like most people, so L2P. You're obviously not using them right.

Its a pathetic argument.

[Shadow_Viper]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kahryl wrote...

Magilicotti wrote...

Shut the **** up already, for the love of everything holy in the world, shut. the. ****. up.

No keep going Schyzm, maybe you'll get one of them to say how the lore dictates warriors and rogues should be useless again

If you're finding Rogues and Warriors to be useless, you're doing something wrong.

IFL2P.

Alright, this is the essence of what you're dong:

You're not finding Mages ridiculously overpowered like most people, so L2P. You're obviously not using them right.

Its a pathetic argument.

The vocal forum minority who delight in whining and crying about anything and everything, is far from "most people"

[secutor56]

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Buckmanius wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

yes that's an excellent trade.  mages annihilate everything in combat and rogues are locksmiths.  maybe if bioware taught rogues how to be plumbers they could double their usefulness.

If i give you a lol  to the plumber thing  would you please respond to the question:   Why continue to whine?

because I want to.  the game's combat mechanics ARE broken.  not just slightly imbalanced, or "its a single player game so we didnt bother to fine tune the balance."  they are completely and totally shattered broken lying on the floor screaming in pain.

just for example baldur's gate 2 is vastly superior, of course for that they just transplanted the dnd system which DID HAVE balance considerations in it.  not perfect mind you, but the idea of balance isn't an evil concept in dnd.  

The combat mechanics are far from broken. I would suggest Learning To Play.

considering I annihilate the game at nightmare difficulty in which manner would you consider me to be incapable of playing?  or was that just another throwaway insult by another ignorant person?

Ah, so you're just whining for the sake of whining then.

In that case, IFSW.

I'm addressing the issue of awful unbalanced uninteresting and unfun combat mechanics that significantly reduce the adventure and excitement of my experience.

"Balance" is a matter of opinion.

The game is far from uninteresting and unfun.

IFSW.

yes balance is completely and totally subjective.  why is it the ppl w/ the worst opinions always imagine the world is purely subjective...I think there's some strange coincidence going on there.

Which opinion do you disagree with. That the world is subjective, that a person's opinions are their own, or that the game is fun and interesting. The first two are fact, and as for the third,  you have obviously played and replayed the game. Do you have a valid opinion. Or are you just posting angst.

To me the game is enjoyable. Could use some fixes, but hey nothing's perfect. Get over it.

[Schyzm]

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kahryl wrote...

Magilicotti wrote...

Shut the **** up already, for the love of everything holy in the world, shut. the. ****. up.

No keep going Schyzm, maybe you'll get one of them to say how the lore dictates warriors and rogues should be useless again

If you're finding Rogues and Warriors to be useless, you're doing something wrong.

IFL2P.

Alright, this is the essence of what you're dong:

You're not finding Mages ridiculously overpowered like most people, so L2P. You're obviously not using them right.

Its a pathetic argument.

The vocal forum minority who delight in whining and crying about anything and everything, is far from "most people"

even among the retarded fanbois a fairly large number admit to the imbalance, they just think its irrelevant.  As far you I'm not sure if you're so terrible that you can't use mages in an overpowered way or if it's just more random bile from you.

[Kolaris8472]

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Kahryl wrote...

Magilicotti wrote...

Shut the **** up already, for the love of everything holy in the world, shut. the. ****. up.

No keep going Schyzm, maybe you'll get one of them to say how the lore dictates warriors and rogues should be useless again

If you're finding Rogues and Warriors to be useless, you're doing something wrong.

IFL2P.

Alright, this is the essence of what you're dong:

You're not finding Mages ridiculously overpowered like most people, so L2P. You're obviously not using them right.

Its a pathetic argument.

The vocal forum minority who delight in whining and crying about anything and everything, is far from "most people"

The vocal forum minority who delight in defending obstinently against any and all ways of improving the game is also far too...no, wait, I hope you're not most people. BioWare made a great game. It can be better.

[Shadow_Viper]

secutor56 wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

Buckmanius wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

yes that's an excellent trade.  mages annihilate everything in combat and rogues are locksmiths.  maybe if bioware taught rogues how to be plumbers they could double their usefulness.

If i give you a lol  to the plumber thing  would you please respond to the question:   Why continue to whine?

because I want to.  the game's combat mechanics ARE broken.  not just slightly imbalanced, or "its a single player game so we didnt bother to fine tune the balance."  they are completely and totally shattered broken lying on the floor screaming in pain.

just for example baldur's gate 2 is vastly superior, of course for that they just transplanted the dnd system which DID HAVE balance considerations in it.  not perfect mind you, but the idea of balance isn't an evil concept in dnd.  

The combat mechanics are far from broken. I would suggest Learning To Play.

considering I annihilate the game at nightmare difficulty in which manner would you consider me to be incapable of playing?  or was that just another throwaway insult by another ignorant person?

Ah, so you're just whining for the sake of whining then.

In that case, IFSW.

I'm addressing the issue of awful unbalanced uninteresting and unfun combat mechanics that significantly reduce the adventure and excitement of my experience.

"Balance" is a matter of opinion.

The game is far from uninteresting and unfun.

IFSW.

yes balance is completely and totally subjective.  why is it the ppl w/ the worst opinions always imagine the world is purely subjective...I think there's some strange coincidence going on there.

Which opinion do you disagree with. That the world is subjective, that a person's opinions are their own, or that the game is fun and interesting. The first two are fact, and as for the third,  you have obviously played and replayed the game. Do you have a valid opinion. Or are you just posting angst.

To me the game is enjoyable. Could use some fixes, but hey nothing's perfect. Get over it.

QFE.

[Schyzm]

secutor56 wrote...

Wow. I read the last couple pages. I'm posting too. I think that makes me stupid. OK here goes.....

Schysm,
If you've beat the game on nightmare I'm pretty sure you're a glutton for punishment, becuase that usual means you're all about fine tuning the combat system. Which the thought of apparently leaves you a broken, bleeding, and curled in the fetal position on the floor. It's only a status token is you respect the system you beat. I don't won't to hear about how much your head hurts if you're pounding it against a wall.

I personally played the game for the storyline. The combat was promised as looking spectacular and gratuitously voilent, not revolutionary, or intuitively balanced.

As for the original topic of this forum, some bioware feedback would be nice. Some of the complaints here are valid, and fixing them would definately add replay enjoyment. But for god sake people. Don't whine about what you have unless your going to say what it is you want.

Sorry for the angst, just pissed about my wasted time.

I'm not hugely offended by how overall hard the game, the only reason I have to constantly mention nightmare is if I don't the fanbois will flame relentlessly about "not playing on nightmare" and proceed to makeup all sorts of lies about how the game actually plays on nightmare.

[Shadow_Viper]

Schyzm wrote...

secutor56 wrote...

Wow. I read the last couple pages. I'm posting too. I think that makes me stupid. OK here goes.....

Schysm,
If you've beat the game on nightmare I'm pretty sure you're a glutton for punishment, becuase that usual means you're all about fine tuning the combat system. Which the thought of apparently leaves you a broken, bleeding, and curled in the fetal position on the floor. It's only a status token is you respect the system you beat. I don't won't to hear about how much your head hurts if you're pounding it against a wall.

I personally played the game for the storyline. The combat was promised as looking spectacular and gratuitously voilent, not revolutionary, or intuitively balanced.

As for the original topic of this forum, some bioware feedback would be nice. Some of the complaints here are valid, and fixing them would definately add replay enjoyment. But for god sake people. Don't whine about what you have unless your going to say what it is you want.

Sorry for the angst, just pissed about my wasted time.

I'm not hugely offended by how overall hard the game, the only reason I have to constantly mention nightmare is if I don't the fanbois will flame relentlessly about "not playing on nightmare" and proceed to makeup all sorts of lies about how the game actually plays on nightmare.

Here we see a classis CDM in action, the "Fanboy" label.

[Schyzm]

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

secutor56 wrote...

Wow. I read the last couple pages. I'm posting too. I think that makes me stupid. OK here goes.....

Schysm,
If you've beat the game on nightmare I'm pretty sure you're a glutton for punishment, becuase that usual means you're all about fine tuning the combat system. Which the thought of apparently leaves you a broken, bleeding, and curled in the fetal position on the floor. It's only a status token is you respect the system you beat. I don't won't to hear about how much your head hurts if you're pounding it against a wall.

I personally played the game for the storyline. The combat was promised as looking spectacular and gratuitously voilent, not revolutionary, or intuitively balanced.

As for the original topic of this forum, some bioware feedback would be nice. Some of the complaints here are valid, and fixing them would definately add replay enjoyment. But for god sake people. Don't whine about what you have unless your going to say what it is you want.

Sorry for the angst, just pissed about my wasted time.

I'm not hugely offended by how overall hard the game, the only reason I have to constantly mention nightmare is if I don't the fanbois will flame relentlessly about "not playing on nightmare" and proceed to makeup all sorts of lies about how the game actually plays on nightmare.

Here we see a classis CDM in action, the "Fanboy" label.

from the nonsensical arguments, the trolling and the random changes in logic there is no other label.  it's like you're throwing crap against a wall hoping something sticks because in the end all you dislike is the fact that we have problems with your precious game.  

[Spaceweed10]

Another 'WoW' players whining thread.

[Kolaris8472]

secutor56 wrote...
To me the game is enjoyable. Could use some fixes, but hey nothing's perfect. Get over it.

This is an important point. I have no idea why people are taking so much offense at suggestions to make the game closer to perfect. I don't think anyone, other than those who join forums  just to make a dead-end 'quit the game' rant, is disupting that its a fun game, but the areas that need improvement will naturally get the most topics.

[Schyzm]

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Another 'WoW' players whining thread.

another loser who thinks balance started with the invention of MMO's.  

[Shadow_Viper]

Schyzm wrote...

Shadow_Viper wrote...

Schyzm wrote...

secutor56 wrote...

Wow. I read the last couple pages. I'm posting too. I think that makes me stupid. OK here goes.....

Schysm,
If you've beat the game on nightmare I'm pretty sure you're a glutton for punishment, becuase that usual means you're all about fine tuning the combat system. Which the thought of apparently leaves you a broken, bleeding, and curled in the fetal position on the floor. It's only a status token is you respect the system you beat. I don't won't to hear about how much your head hurts if you're pounding it against a wall.

I personally played the game for the storyline. The combat was promised as looking spectacular and gratuitously voilent, not revolutionary, or intuitively balanced.

As for the original topic of this forum, some bioware feedback would be nice. Some of the complaints here are valid, and fixing them would definately add replay enjoyment. But for god sake people. Don't whine about what you have unless your going to say what it is you want.

Sorry for the angst, just pissed about my wasted time.

I'm not hugely offended by how overall hard the game, the only reason I have to constantly mention nightmare is if I don't the fanbois will flame relentlessly about "not playing on nightmare" and proceed to makeup all sorts of lies about how the game actually plays on nightmare.

Here we see a classis CDM in action, the "Fanboy" label.

from the nonsensical arguments, the trolling and the random changes in logic there is no other label.  

Ah the "Troll" label, another classic CDM.

Schyzm wrote...


it's like you're throwing crap against a wall hoping something sticks because in the end all you dislike is the fact that we have problems with your precious game.  

Wait...aren't you doing the samething because you find something wrong with the game? 

Seems we have a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Modifié par Shadow_Viper, 18 novembre 2009 - 01:57 .

[Shadow_Viper]

Schyzm wrote...

Spaceweed10 wrote...

Another 'WoW' players whining thread.

another loser who thinks balance started with the invention of MMO's.  

Please go back to WoW with the rest of the kiddies, it's obvious this game isn't for you.

[KiriONE]

standard thread here. chestbeaters and wang measurers poo pooing on people who don't want to just play one class that's fun to play.

quick thing on balance: mage is a greatly designed character, utility, highly interactive (very high apm; while this game isn't exactly about spamming controls, when you want to do something with a mage involving tactics, you most likely can). versatile in just about every way. warriors rogues and potential archers,well they are just autoattack wonders, using abilities is costly and they are relegated to attacking. and that's ok right? a game with tons of play time and high potential replay value shouldn't have to see just one class be playable to make those playthroughs fun.

All I can think about is the deep roads and fighting wave after of wave and just auto attacking with my PC but micromanaging the hell out of wynne and morrigan. (but that's ok, having a PC character that you can't really call your own is cool!)

but this is ok for a game, it's ok to have 1 class that's designed well and 2.5 others (archers are in this game?) that are just kinda there.

while this game is one of the best of the year, it's not without faults. And to immediatley quash any discussion by simply saying "who cares if it's unbalanced it single player" flies in the face of what bioware is trying to do here. (hint, social network/community built by its fans).

But I guess having a forum of chest pounders refuting every possible discussion that comes up is just as good.

you clowns, a game can always be more fun, and people who suggest things like "class balance" and asking for more details about the mechanics about the game, are looking to make it more fun for them.

people who crap on that, well i hope you all rolled your ankles in your tuesday night bowling leagues.

Modifié par KiriONE, 18 novembre 2009 - 02:40 .

[Buckmanius]

KiriONE wrote...

standard thread here. chestbeaters and wang measurers poo pooing on people who don't want to just play one class that's fun to play.

quick thing on balance: mage is a greatly designed character, utility, highly interactive (very high apm; while this game isn't exactly about spamming controls, when you want to do something with a mage involving tactics, you most likely can). versatile in just about every way. warriors rogues and potential archers,well they are just autoattack wonders, using abilities is costly and they are relegated to attacking. and that's ok right? a game with tons of play time and high potential replay value shouldn't have to see just one class be playable to make those playthroughs fun.

All I can think about is the deep roads and fighting wave after of wave and just auto attacking with my PC but micromanaging the hell out of wynne and morrigan. (but that's ok, having a PC character that you can't really call your own is cool!)

but this is ok for a game, it's ok to have 1 class that's designed well and 2.5 others (archers are in this game?) that are just kinda there.

while this game is one of the best of the year, it's not without faults. And to immediatley quash any discussion by simply saying "who cares if it's unbalanced it single player" flies in the face of what bioware is trying to do here. (hint, social network/community built by its fans).

But I guess having a forum of chest pounders refuting every possible discussion that comes up is just as good.

you clowns, a game can always be more fun, and people who suggest things like "class balance" and asking for more details about the mechanics about the game, are looking to make it more fun for them.

people who crap on that, well i hope you all rolled your ankles in your tuesday night bowling leagues.

And to the people who say "its an abortion"  whats your Olde Timey response to them?  You defend the right to complain,  and its fine.  To repeat time after time "its awful"   is not constructive.  If  the "douche" who started with the "abortion" stuff had one idea about what to do,  had one ounce of the patience (you tried to display but failed horribly in the end to show) I could read on in contentment. However you both failed.  A chest beater wishing people would stfu  is not as bad as a chest beater who wished physical bodily harm.  I crap on people  who do nothing but crap on things.  The OP stated his opinion,   you can agree or disagree.  To argue over and over that Bioware should change it after they stated "working as intended", is insane  and has been stated as such.  So Mr. "omg  i can play the game and have fun  but i have a harder time playing in one way  and its alot harder than playing the other way thus  Bioware is fail  thier game is fail  "  you sir are FAIL

[F-C]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

This is an important point. I have no idea why people are taking so much offense at suggestions to make the game closer to perfect. I don't think anyone, other than those who join forums  just to make a dead-end 'quit the game' rant, is disupting that its a fun game, but the areas that need improvement will naturally get the most topics.

i would disagree with your point because some of these people are just such angry bitter little men who are revolving their entire life around this forum crusade and just wont let it go.


since the last time i posted i went out, rented a movie, got some dinner and a 6pack, came back and watched the movie with my girl while eating dinner... and i come back and these little bitter men are still raging on about mages like they are better than the developers who make millions off of these games.


you just cant account for the basement dwelling bitter little men who have nothing better to do with their life than pound on a topic all day and night for weeks on end.

its sad really, but it debunks the idea that the important topics will get the most attention.