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#176
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F-C wrote...

i would disagree with your point because some of these people are just such angry bitter little men who are revolving their entire life around this forum crusade and just wont let it go.


since the last time i posted i went out, rented a movie, got some dinner and a 6pack, came back and watched the movie with my girl while eating dinner... and i come back and these little bitter men are still raging on about mages like they are better than the developers who make millions off of these games.


you just cant account for the basement dwelling bitter little men who have nothing better to do with their life than pound on a topic all day and night for weeks on end.

its sad really, but it debunks the idea that the important topics will get the most attention.


And your idea of an important topic is talking about your personal life and what your imagination tells you is the personal life of faceless people on the internet?

If you're here to talk about the game then do.

If you're here to talk about how many six packs you can drink then go elsewhere.

Ever since you tried to defend how Bioware made warriors and rogues near-useless compared to mages and got laughed at you've been ranting about "evil bitter little men" that exist in your imagination.  You don't have to do that. It's creepy.

Modifié par Kahryl, 18 novembre 2009 - 03:25 .


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On the one hand, he feels sorry for the bitter, little people who keep discussing things in this thread. On the other hand, despite a movie, 6- pack, dinner, a girl, and some self righteousness for dessert, he just can't help coming back here to discuss things in this thread, including insulting the participants. Makes ya think.

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shes doing her thing right now, and im doing mine. in a few hours we will go to bed. having a healthy relationship means not being stuck up each others behind 24/7. if you ever get out of your moms basement and meet a real women you will realize that.



anyways both of you just completly ignored the point i was making to be bitter about the fact that i actually have a life, which is rather amusing.

#179
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This is funny. Keep going :)

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I don't see why anyone would purposefully make a game where some classes are overall weaker than others.



Because of the lore? If that's the case that's some pretty lame lore. I'd like to think that the reason a mage becomes so powerful is through a lifetime of study and honing their skills, not by looking at a spellbook and yelling the best thing in there.



That said, there should be a few guidelines we should all take when taking about balance:

1. Pretend MMO's don't exist. Once you take this into account, then can you truly argue why balance is good or bad.

2. A set difficulty. When talking about balance it's best to talk about everyone's performance on the same difficulty setting.

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F-C wrote...

shes doing her thing right now, and im doing mine. in a few hours we will go to bed. having a healthy relationship means not being stuck up each others behind 24/7. if you ever get out of your moms basement and meet a real women you will realize that.

anyways both of you just completly ignored the point i was making to be bitter about the fact that i actually have a life, which is rather amusing.


lolololololololol.  oh shoot man don't hurt a poor dude's gut like that.  yes lets all flame war about each other's personal lives. lololololol.  it's like your troll circa 1997.

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Are you nuts? This is a public forum. I can state my opinion if I want to, bossy mossy. I never said I beat the game on Nightmare. I barely beat the origin story on easy. Just kidding. But go get over yourself telling people to keep their opinions to themselves on a public forum. Who you kidding?

Exactly.  It's one thread.  On a public forum.  Which nobody has to even visit.  They don't even have to open this thread.

Can you imagine that?  They're complaining that they have to actually see a thread like this on the main page.

Christ.

#183
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lolololololololol.  oh shoot man don't hurt a poor dude's gut like that.  yes lets all flame war about each other's personal lives. lololololol.  it's like your troll circa 1997.


all i see is your bitter little trolling.


you all still just completly overlook the point i was making.


trolls like schyzm there have no life and nothing better to do than troll these threads about mages all day and night for days on end. anyone who doesnt agree with him he just starts calling names and flaming and just in general being a normal predictable troll.

it debunks the idea that the important issues will get the most attention.


which was my original point before you all got mad that someone out there actually has a life.

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F-C wrote...

Schyzm wrote...
lolololololololol.  oh shoot man don't hurt a poor dude's gut like that.  yes lets all flame war about each other's personal lives. lololololol.  it's like your troll circa 1997.


all i see is your bitter little trolling.


you all still just completly overlook the point i was making.


trolls like schyzm there have no life and nothing better to do than troll these threads about mages all day and night for days on end. anyone who doesnt agree with him he just starts calling names and flaming and just in general being a normal predictable troll.

it debunks the idea that the important issues will get the most attention.


which was my original point before you all got mad that someone out there actually has a life.


sorry man it's just I haven't seen a life troll in a super long time.  I didn't even know they still made your model.  I figured trolls had moved on to more sophisticated techniques.  I'm anxiously awaiting what other life deficiencies I possess, and what amazing life prowess our super troll possesses that endow him with righteousness in this argument.

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sorry man it's just I haven't seen a life troll in a super long time.  I didn't even know they still made your model.  I figured trolls had moved on to more sophisticated techniques.  I'm anxiously awaiting what other life deficiencies I possess, and what amazing life prowess our super troll possesses that endow him with righteousness in this argument.


you are just making my point for me.

i guess you arnt smart enough to see that.

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Wait a minute. Are you serious? You have posted in this thread 3 times in the past hour to judge other people you know nothing about, brag about your awesome troll life, and think we are bitter about your glorious little existence? You have got to be kidding. Wake up call little dude, from where I am sitting you look like every other person trolling internet forums on the internet, the only difference is you keep logging back in to troll without noticing what you are doing. It is sad and funny. You fret about your "point" being ignored, but your actions speak a hell of a lot louder than your words here.



But no, I am not bitter about you trolling here any more than anybody else. I don't really see why you think your trolling makes people bitter about your great life while somebody else's means they have no life. From an objective look at this thread, you two have the exact same life, you just don't seem to know it yet.



In any case, leave the bragging and personal stuff at the door, OK? Nobody here needs your judgment. You agree with somebody, you disagree with somebody, great. But saying we have no life but you do? Umm, no.

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In any case, leave the bragging and personal stuff at the door, OK? Nobody here needs your judgment. You agree with somebody, you disagree with somebody, great. But saying we have no life but you do? Umm, no.


i was never bragging, i was making a point. if you think i was bragging, thats just funny. apparently having a normal life is bragging to you?

a well adjusted person with a normal life wont sit here and hound a thread all day and night long like schyzm has been doing there.

i was gone for a few hours myself while i was doing things earlier, which was the point i was making, yet there is schyzm still trolling away and bashing on mages and bioware.

in another hour or so i wont be here anymore, ill be in bed, but you can count on schyzm and these other trolls still trolling away and having a pity party about mages.



the other threads i posted in i was pointing out how rogues are the best damage in the game, i was showing them where the guy proves it, and so on.

if i get stupid replies that just ignore the reality of the situation to continue their little pity party, of course im going to think they are just bitter little mage haters.

what else would you call it? they have been proven wrong, yet they still persist. thats just being bitter.

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F-C wrote...


a well adjusted person with a normal life wont sit here and hound a thread all day and night long like schyzm has been doing there.

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Well, as long as you take a break from hounding this thread and repeating yourself ad nauseum, then yes, you are completely well adjusted and have a normal life.  Unlike everybody else doing the exact same thing?

I'll give you this, you are a very, very funny person.

#189
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F-C wrote...

in another hour or so i wont be here anymore, ill be in bed


Is that a promise? 

bitter.


Did you just learn that word or something? :P

#190
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Kahryl wrote...
Is that a promise? 


you can count on it.

Did you just learn that word or something? :P


no i just find it the most suitable for people like you and schyzm and most of these other people who continue to troll day in and out about your one player game.

you are bitter about mages.


bioware tells you its working as intended and they arnt going to change it.
other players are proving how good other classes can be if played properly.

yet you still insist on crying about mages day in and day out. i think bitter is quite fitting.

#191
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No complaints here. Most of the complaints in here I simply cannot relate to or agree with. But in general I think gamers are a whiny bunch, lol. : )

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IFSW.

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The people who don't want mages balanced inability to present a good argument as to why they shouldn't be more balanced should be enough to force bioware to nerf them. Several reasons have been given as to why they need nerfed and the counter argument is always "its a single player game".

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aberdash wrote...

The people who don't want mages balanced inability to present a good argument as to why they shouldn't be more balanced should be enough to force bioware to nerf them. Several reasons have been given as to why they need nerfed and the counter argument is always "its a single player game".


actually this is just completly wrong.

its been proven rogues are the highest damage in the game while having much more survivability.

mages rely on control and aoe damage to even live, without it they would be pretty useless except for a healer.




also bioware has stated flat out that mages are working as intended and they arnt going to change them.

no matter what you say, you cant get around that point. its just a brick wall.



also bioware has told you to use the toolkit and change it if you dont like it.

no matter what you say, you cant get around that point. its just a brick wall.




changing the game to how you think it should be will only produce people who whine about those changes to replace you. then if they change it again, those people will be replaced by people whining about hating those changes.    over and over.

its a never ending cycle that is pointless.

they have provided you with a toolkit to adjust your game if you are that unhappy with it so they dont have to deal with this.

bioware does not need to spend forever adjusting classes back and forth to appease the vocal minority.

you have a toolkit to adjust your own game if you dont like it.



thats just how it is.

anything beyond that is just whining and being bitter.

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F-C wrote...

its been proven rogues are the highest damage in the game while having much more survivability.

No, rogues have the highest damage of the melee classes. I've already proven to you that mages have the highest dps without even using vuln hex, dimes. <_<

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No, rogues have the highest damage of the melee classes. I've already proven to you that mages have the highest dps without even using vuln hex, dimes. <_<



http://social.biowar.../9/index/222939

read it and weep kiddo.



to quote him
"This is a pure dagger rogue on Nightmare diffculty... I do far more damage than any of my other melee characters (and sometimes more overall damage than my best dps mage)."

more overall damage than my best dps mage

Modifié par F-C, 18 novembre 2009 - 05:45 .


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lol...

"Guys, rogues are highest melee DPS in game"

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aberdash wrote...

lol...

"Guys, rogues are highest melee DPS in game"



i know you have reading comprehension issues kid, but try to read the post.

This is a pure dagger rogue on Nightmare diffculty... I do far more damage than any of my other melee characters (and sometimes more overall damage than my best dps mage).


more overall damage than my best dps mage

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Not my fault you have a ****ty mage. :whistle:

And the character you control most always does the most damage...

Modifié par aberdash, 18 novembre 2009 - 05:48 .


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Not my fault you have a ****ty mage. :whistle:


so even presented with the fact he knows how to play, hes owning with a rogue, you just nonsensically deny the truth?

then people wonder why i call these people bitter little mage haters.

/facepalm