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[essexfuzz]

I am disappointed with several gameplay decisions they made, most notably the lack of equipment customization for your party members. That said I am still quite enjoying the game and just hope they play it smarter for the next installment.

[ironcreed2]

I am not disappointed, I just felt like it could have and should have been so much more. While being a great game, it still feels incomplete and rushed in many ways that is just not typical of a BioWare epic. In fact, there was really nothing 'epic' about this game at all. Beings that Origins was in fact about as epic as it gets, therein lies the problem that many are having with such a departure that they decided to go in with DA II.

While I actually enjoyed the more personal story myself, by the time it was over it just did not have the awe inspiring feeling that I was hoping for. That, and the fact that they took away so much and the lack of inspiration in terms of the atmosphere and environments really chipped away at what is otherwise a really great game. It simply feels like a great game that was never properly finished.

[Seival]

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

[ironcreed2]

Seival wrote...

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

I am not going to demand recycling the same few environments for every quest or the lack of ability to use gear for my party, I know that much.

[Romantiq]

Excellent story that goes pretty deep into more exciting and complicated subject of world of Thedas. Overall gameplay and certain "Dramatic moments" could have been handled a lot better imo.

[Killa2k]

I think the game had potential and i say that loosley overall im pretty damn dissapointed kinda wish id bought it from a shop instead of from Steam so i can return it since theyres no chance of me trolling through another 35+ hours of the exact same content stuck on repeat, wont be making that mistake with further Bioware releases buying the actual game in future least i can get sum cash back.Shame the story cashed cheques the rest of the game couldnt back up...back to origins and ME for me

[Lord_Saulot]

It is a decent but disappointing game - enjoyable but with signficant flaws. I would say it is neither excellent nor terrible.

Also, I feel that they would have better served with releasing a second DAO expansion in the time frame they chose.

Modifié par Lord_Saulot, 15 mars 2011 - 04:22 .

[Sharuko]

Seival wrote...

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

"Innovation"?  Really?  What innovation did DA2 bring to the table?  Is innovation spawning waves of mobs at you and calling that difficulty?  Is innovation using the same levels over and over again?

If you mean "change" then you have something.  Here is the thing, Mass Effect 2 was different than Mass Effect 1.  There was "change".  Yet it was univerally liked by critics and fans.  DA2 on the other hand took the Dragon Age franchise and made a rushed game that is sub par.

This game is an average game, it is not bad.  But it is no where near BioWare or other major gaming company standards.

[DeadJester]

People generally like to inflate their opinion, especially on the internet.

A mediocre game becomes "worse piece of **** ever!". A decent game becomes "best game I've played in a long time." As a rule of thumb, I take any user opinion online with a grain of salt whenever I see such phrases or terms being used.

I think it is also in part due to many of the changes in the game. A lot of fans who loved DA:O but hated DA2 I suspect just wanted DA:O with updated graphics and no real change to the gameplay formula. Not that there is anything wrong with enjoying DA:O over DA2, but a game doesn't "suck" because it fails to be a carbon copy of the previous entry in the series.

I personally enjoyed DA2, although it is far from perfect. I got my gripes.

[gingerbill]

Enjoyed the game . I like how bioware have made changes and tried to improve , it doesnt all work but if they take the best of both DAO and DA" then DA3 should be something special.

[vometia]

essexfuzz wrote...

I am disappointed with several gameplay decisions they made, most notably the lack of equipment customization for your party members. That said I am still quite enjoying the game and just hope they play it smarter for the next installment.

simfamSP wrote...

Brent Knowels has just said exactly what I've said that means I'm right!

Nahh... but seriously they have made a solid game in a short development cycle...but like I said it was very foolish to do it in such a time.

I think this pretty much sums it up for me; combined with the lack of weapons choices for both the player and other NPCs, and the fiddly means of switching where choice are availble: I really preferred the alternate weapons sets in DA:O.

The cooldown on potions combined with tiny mana/endurance/health pools is also overdoing it somewhat in my opinion.  Though really the worst element isn't central to the game but is the flaky DLC & add-on activation which has been a really unwelcome experience.

Seival wrote...

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

I think I wouldn't describe them all as "innovations", though my inclination to describe some of the above in pejorative terms is probably also not helpful.  I'm not overly enamoured with some of the changes though: I preferred what they'd done to ME2 compared to ME1, the latter of which was too fiddly, but I don't think many of DA2's changes improve on DA:O.

[Romantiq]

Killa2k wrote...

I think the game had potential and i say that loosley overall im pretty damn dissapointed kinda wish id bought it from a shop instead of from Steam so i can return it since theyres no chance of me trolling through another 35+ hours of the exact same content stuck on repeat, wont be making that mistake with further Bioware releases buying the actual game in future least i can get sum cash back.Shame the story cashed cheques the rest of the game couldnt back up...back to origins and ME for me

Yeah ... I could not force myself to replay Dragon Age 2 and go thourgh massive genocide of crash dummies again. I don't mind replaying origins though. This time I am making HUMAN MALE RAWR! Morrigan here I come!

[Killa2k]

Seival wrote...

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

tbh personally if i thought this was the next innovative step in RPG's i wouldnt be dissapointed. I think they tried sumthing and for me personally they failed maybe for some they succeeded but i would never pay for something like this again  thats just me ofc  everyone else is entitled to think what they like

[NvVanity]

DA2 was a good game. It definitely suffered from a few flaws which i'm sure other forum goers have made quite clear.

[General Flynt]

ironcreed2 wrote...

Seival wrote...

DA2 is exellent game. It's just hard for some people to get used to innovations. Time will pass and most of those who dislike reinforcements at the beginning will like them and demand them in other RPGs

I am not going to demand recycling the same few environments for every quest or the lack of ability to use gear for my party, I know that much.

I agree and what innovations are we talking about here. There is nothing in this game that can't be found in Mass Effect or in Dragon Age Origins. Unless you call constant, homosexual inuendos innovation...

[Korusus]

simfamSP wrote...

Nahh... but seriously they have made a solid game in a short development cycle...but like I said it was very foolish to do it in such a time.

Indeed, DA2 is a decent game from a developer that usually strives for excellence.  But it isn't going to get any better from here on out.  EA will keep pushing and pushing for faster releases and more spinoffs and more expensive DLC.  They'll wring and wring and wring BioWare until there's no more blood to be gotten from that turnip.  I just don't see a very bright future after 2011 for BioWare. 

If you think EA will learn a lesson from this and back off and let BioWare do its thing from here on out...I wish I had your confidence.

[Killa2k]

simfamSP wrote...

Killa2k wrote...

I think the game had potential and i say that loosley overall im pretty damn dissapointed kinda wish id bought it from a shop instead of from Steam so i can return it since theyres no chance of me trolling through another 35+ hours of the exact same content stuck on repeat, wont be making that mistake with further Bioware releases buying the actual game in future least i can get sum cash back.Shame the story cashed cheques the rest of the game couldnt back up...back to origins and ME for me

Fair enough. Yes we were all quite fast to purchase this. I do not regrett mine how ever I love the game for what it is. But we just see 'Bioware' and drool don't we ?

Yeah my overall trust in bioware as in i allways buy anything they make kinda made me go " hey what could go wrong" my bad xD 

[Killa2k]

Romantiq wrote...

Killa2k wrote...

I think the game had potential and i say that loosley overall im pretty damn dissapointed kinda wish id bought it from a shop instead of from Steam so i can return it since theyres no chance of me trolling through another 35+ hours of the exact same content stuck on repeat, wont be making that mistake with further Bioware releases buying the actual game in future least i can get sum cash back.Shame the story cashed cheques the rest of the game couldnt back up...back to origins and ME for me

Yeah ... I could not force myself to replay Dragon Age 2 and go thourgh massive genocide of crash dummies again. I don't mind replaying origins though. This time I am making HUMAN MALE RAWR! Morrigan here I come!

right there with you

[Romantiq]

EA just needs to realize that this is not Madden, NFS or C&C series (that they already messed up, hopefully Visceral can pull it out of slough). This is DRAGON AGE. A work of ART that you can't interfere with. IMO

[Rizaun]

It's a really good game, and like all games out there, it could have been better.

[GreenSoda]

Some ppl are simply disappointed that DA2 didn't follow the way DA:O laid out for the series (back to a more traditional style of RPG-gaming). Add to that the actual flaws of the game (e.g. heavy re-use of environments) plus the "internet-effect" and you get the kind of volatile hate posts that currently explode all over this forum (and others).

It's still a great game, though. It's just not the game some people wanted / expected.

I seriously hope this doesn't kill the franchise. I love both games and really want a DA3.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 15 mars 2011 - 04:29 .