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[Iwasdrunkbro]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

This one is kind of big... If you wanted to go that route it would have been better to only have stuff that can be equipped by current Hawke drop, otherwise it just draws attention to the non armour customisation and frustrates people. Especially when companion armour if very low compared to what Hawke can get.

See the problem is Bioware and EA would rather use the Mass Effect 2 model of selling you clothes as DLC as opposed to letting you the paying customer choose what you would like to do in YOUR game. So yes, as we go through our recycled areas that Bioware didnt have time to complete, they're hard at work on DLC just for you and me!

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Venefica wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

Um...you did it in DAO

Bwahahaha. I was about to type that Venefica, good show!

[ZDProletariat]

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

[Killa2k]

If DA2 is imaginative i musta missed sumthing ? isnt it just all of the theory behind DA in a much smaller setting with bumbed up graphics and over simplified customization,control, and over used recycling of areas, with a hack a slash style combat, backed up with a fairly good story to boot anything i missed feel free to correct me ? (ofcourse that all just an opinion)

Modifié par Killa2k, 15 mars 2011 - 05:05 .

[DownyTif]

Venefica wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

Um...you did it in DAO

You just read my mind!

[Axis Swordarm]

ZDProletariat wrote...

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

In that case why let you collect armour drops for classes that you can never equip.  It's a legitimate complaint and could also have been solved by allowing you to get the armour forged for your companions so that it always looked the same but made use of what you found.

A very simple and low budget solution, but then again it fits wit the theme of the game.

[marcbenigni]

Mellakim wrote...

If you’re playing on the PC download this file http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=2143 and all worries will be solved

Quick edit its only for weapons not companion armour 

Wow, it's fantastic to see PC mods popping up for this game already.  Maybe there is some hope after all.  Man, if some enterprising young programmer could deliver a fix to unlock the camera.... maybe turn off the meaningless respawns (and compensate for lost XP)... then I'd put the game on Nightmare and probably really enjoy it.

[Nick Fox]

corbindallas87 wrote...

It's about taking customization away, nothing else

Not a great decision, although i know BW wanted specific bodys for companions in this game (individual look).
They still must've been able to put in a few armor pieces for the companions one would think.
Taking away customization is never ever a smart idea in a rpg, but then again BW wants CoD players now and not the likes of me that actually loves to upgrade, customize and play around with different outfits and stats to my companions. Its just odd to find a heavy armor with a mage Hawke and not beein g able to give it to say fenrris who stands right next to me. This irritates the **** out of me and I cant get over it really.
Lazyiness is what I call "streamlining" like this.

[Kane-Corr]

ZDProletariat wrote...

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

YES I agree with this! People need to realize it is also NOT realistic to be dressing up your partner, and scavenging the earth for countless items.....I mean, where DO you store all of that?!

[augustburnt]

Did a Mod just get shot down in his own forum....

[marcbenigni]

ZDProletariat wrote...

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

Cool!

I have no further questions, your honor.

[Mr. Gerbz]

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

You did a pretty good job with the Baldur's Gate series and DA:O to be honest. Sure there were limitations, but far less apparent.

Here's to hoping you'll ditch this quantity over quality thing you've got going on lately.

[AkiKishi]

Iwasdrunkbro wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

This one is kind of big... If you wanted to go that route it would have been better to only have stuff that can be equipped by current Hawke drop, otherwise it just draws attention to the non armour customisation and frustrates people. Especially when companion armour if very low compared to what Hawke can get.

See the problem is Bioware and EA would rather use the Mass Effect 2 model of selling you clothes as DLC as opposed to letting you the paying customer choose what you would like to do in YOUR game. So yes, as we go through our recycled areas that Bioware didnt have time to complete, they're hard at work on DLC just for you and me!

I know that is the goal, I was just saying they could have mitigated a lot of the problems without actually changing how companions are dressed. It's very frustrating when you get armour that is so much better but your companions can't use it. Making the companion armour better, would help.

[Kane-Corr]

augustburnt wrote...

Did a Mod just get shot down in his own forum....

And people still want Bioware to comment on the game.....please! And they wonder why this ceases to be....

It's because no one has respect anymore. I miss the days when the forumites actually respected the Developers....and it was in THIS way that a constructive environment was formed....when the community could contribute ideas to the team...and voila! Our vision of a better game would be instilled in the next installment. People really need to take a good look at what they say in here. But I guess that whole saying of give a little, take a lot should be applied here.

[enhancedhpb]

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

I agree. But, alot of the ability to customize main characters and companions is drastically limited compared to Dragon Age: Origins and Awakening. 

[Sharuko]

Kane-Corr wrote...

augustburnt wrote...

Did a Mod just get shot down in his own forum....

And people still want Bioware to comment on the game.....please! And they wonder why this ceases to be....

It's because no one has respect anymore. I miss the days when the forumites actually respected the Developers....and it was in THIS way that a constructive environment was formed....when the community could contribute ideas to the team...and voila! Our vision of a better game would be instilled in the next installment. People really need to take a good look at what they say in here. But I guess that whole saying of give a little, take a lot should be applied here.

If you mean  by "respect" agreeing with everything they say, then that never happened.  Sorry but if a Dev is wrong or we feel he/she is wrong we should say it respectfully.  All of the replies to Stanley have been respectful. 

[TheRealJayDee]

Stanley Woo wrote...

You can find armour upgrades for Fenris that "would be perfect for Fenris." All games have limitations. We can't cater to every individual's imagination.

Is giving some kind of armour to my brother, who jumps right into the middle of every battle, really too much? Although I'm not particularly fond of him, he's still familiy, and letting him run around in his sleeveless shirt thingy in a city that has that many assasins sitting on it's rooftops just doesn't seem right. Not when I think about the wide selection of high quality armours lying around at home. But yeah, I guess it's this sibling rivalry thing going on.

"No, brother, I will not wear this armour you gave me. I'm a strong individual, and I won't let you dictate what's good for me. The sleeveless shirt is my personal style, and it will work just fine. Oh, by the way, I hate how nobody in this city seems to take me seriously and sees me for the great warrior I am and I don't know why and I blame you for it!"

[marcbenigni]

YES I agree with this! People need to realize it is also NOT realistic to be dressing up your partner, and scavenging the earth for countless items.....I mean, where DO you store all of that?!

OK, I guess I have to concede that argument makes sense, at least. I mean people, regardless of their profession, just don't change their outfits (meaning equipment, not clothes, of course) all that frequently.

That said, I still think it's fun to have a wide variety of weapons/armour/gear and make creative decisions about how to use them. That's part of the traditional RPG gameplay. As for realism, there are people shooting lightning bolts out their butts; how far can we possibly take the argument either way?

Modifié par marcbenigni, 15 mars 2011 - 05:17 .

[augustburnt]

Kane-Corr wrote...

augustburnt wrote...

Did a Mod just get shot down in his own forum....

And people still want Bioware to comment on the game.....please! And they wonder why this ceases to be....

It's because no one has respect anymore. I miss the days when the forumites actually respected the Developers....and it was in THIS way that a constructive environment was formed....when the community could contribute ideas to the team...and voila! Our vision of a better game would be instilled in the next installment. People really need to take a good look at what they say in here. But I guess that whole saying of give a little, take a lot should be applied here.

We, the consumer, lost our respect for the devs when they stopped respecting us... hence why there are alot of angry forum posters.

[corbindallas87]

Stanley Woo wrote...


That's an odd statement, considering you could turn Nathaniel into a dual-wielder, Anders into a Spirit mage and Justice into an Archer in Awakenings.

The above is why I played and completed DA:O 3 times.  By customizing my characters so much it made the game feel fresh and exciting again.

Modifié par corbindallas87, 15 mars 2011 - 05:17 .

[The Brigand]

Kane-Corr wrote...

And people still want Bioware to comment on the game.....please! And they wonder why this ceases to be....

It's because no one has respect anymore.

Are people just supposed to not point out what he walked right into when he said that?

Modifié par The Brigand, 15 mars 2011 - 05:16 .

[ZDProletariat]

Axis Swordarm wrote...
In that case why let you collect armour drops for classes that you can never equip.  It's a legitimate complaint and could also have been solved by allowing you to get the armour forged for your companions so that it always looked the same but made use of what you found.

A very simple and low budget solution, but then again it fits wit the theme of the game.

I agree with you actually. I'd like a patch where the game only dropped armor that is equippable by your picked class, rather than having all the mage and rogue stuff come up when you are a warrior.

[Bibdy]

ZDProletariat wrote...

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

I think its less about appearance, and more about gameplay. It takes away complexity from the game, and RPGs have historically been all about their complexity. There's a big fanbase that loves their stat systems, their tooltips, their complex interactions, their loadout options, their inventory management, a wide array of dialogue options and so on, because this fanbase has been created by the table-top RPG gaming crowd.

If they allowed you to equip your companions with whatever items, without affecting their appearance overly much, wouldn't we have reached a good middle-ground? The same complexity in item and inventory mangement would be there, and you still get to see Fenris look awesome in his lightweight spikey plate gear. One has to wonder why they chose not to use this option. The only explanation I can think of is they felt that 12 more inventory slots (4 per companion) was just too complex to handle for the majority of their playerbase.

So, did this design change work? Did removing 12 inventory slots make it less complex enough that these people enjoyed the game more? Did they appreciate the replacement system of running through all the vendors checking the Diamond-icon section for specific armour upgrades to buy? Was it worth pissing off people who appreciate complexity to cater to these people?

Personally, I think no. Its annoying to find some awesome plate/leather gear, but I can't equip it because I'm a Mage. It just becomes instantaneous vendor-trash. Moreover, 6 slots per companion (rings, amulet, belt and weapons) just feels horribly restrictive compared to RPG games of the past. Its almost insulting that they think I'm not smart enough to be able to manage an item list with 12 more slots.

Modifié par Bibdy, 15 mars 2011 - 05:23 .

[augustburnt]

Kane-Corr wrote...

ZDProletariat wrote...

I enjoy this change. I enjoy customization as much as the next guy, but it gets ridiculous when you have an entire dungeon worth of items that you need to equip for four different characters, some overlapping.
Then when you finally get done getting them all equipped with the marginally better equipment, you realize Morrigan is wearing the most horribly ugly hat you've ever seen, and sten looks like a walking brick with steel girders. You are forced to mismatch just to wear the best gear until you get the late game gear sets.

In DA2, they just wear their cool looking outfits! It's fine! It's cool! If you still want to customize ugly different items, you still have Hawke!
People will complain about anything, won't they?

YES I agree with this! People need to realize it is also NOT realistic to be dressing up your partner, and scavenging the earth for countless items.....I mean, where DO you store all of that?!

When you play the game and realize almost ever single NPC has their own house or room at the tavern you can come post here. Retard.

[DJBare]

One of the weakest arguments I see in here "You don't dress your partner real life do you?"; it's not real life.

One of the enjoyments I got from DA:O was kitting my team to look the way I wanted them, heck I'd even give them weaker armor if it looked better than stronger armor.

Modifié par DJBare, 15 mars 2011 - 05:18 .