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[AtreiyaN7]

It's annoying to wade through a bunch of trolls to find anything that's actually worth reading. I've seen only a few threads with good constructive criticism that mention positives and negatives in an evenhanded manner. The rest of it generally seems to be trolling, ranting about EA or angst-filled whining bemoaning the decay of RPGs. If you're registered, hey, you can still whine in the registered forums if that's your metier in life.

[Hiei987]

Typical that people who pirated the game would cry about this. That forum has significantly less idiots complaining about their personal issues with the game, would be better off to completely replace this one.

[ankuu]

As i said in another thread, we do not need 2 copies of the same game in one house. Because my bf is such a collection freak and wants everything to be registered on his accounts, i don't get to write in the Fenris thread. Or in any section besides this one. How is that fair?I should rally his manhood and steal his account or what? xD

Modifié par ankuu, 15 mars 2011 - 07:04 .

[Bathead]

If Bioware is banning and censoring dissenters, then where are all these negative posts/threads coming from? If they're censoring anyone, they're doing a pi$$-poor job of it. Kinda puts the lie to the whole banning/censoring claim.

[FDrage]

Now I have to shake my head a that ... new forum ... just because I won't register my game ... ah well, I guess I have to live with that ...

[AtreiyaN7]

ankuu wrote...

As i said in another thread, we do not need 2 copies of the same game in one house. Because my bf is such a collection freak and wants everything to be registered on his accounts, i don't get to write in the Fenris thread. Or in any section besides this one. How is that fair?I should rally his manhood and steal his account or what? xD

That's unfortunate, but I suppose it amounts to being collateral damage. If community members were actually responsible and acted like adults, I guess we wouldn't have the situation that we're currently in. Maybe your BF wouldn't mind if you used his account for the forums.

[AJRimmsey]

JohnEpler wrote...
But if you really do think that we're systematically banning the dissenters, then I suppose nothing I can tell you could change your mind. I'd imagine the large number of people who remain unbanned would be proof enough, though.

careful

your injecting sense into a non sensical arguement.

this [like the hadron collider] can have devasting results,please think of the parents of these "tin foil hatters",for they will bear the brunt of your experiment in sense injection.

you are to act like a robber baron bathing in fans money piles while shouting...

MWAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR !!!!

END OF REAM [please insert more paper]

Hiei987 wrote...

Typical that people who pirated the game
would cry about this. That forum has significantly less idiots
complaining about their personal issues with the game, would be better
off to completely replace this one.

if i were you i would go read a few of the threads there,it seems you are wrong,theres already a few threads solely dedicated to "we are now the nobles of these boards and those over there are the peasents"
looks like its a failure,as its brought out the worst in even the registered users

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 15 mars 2011 - 07:10 .

[Reule]

Considering some of the criticisms have been less than mature, it'd be nice to see if some have actually owned the game or took the time to register Dragon Age II.

[Saibh]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you don't have a game registered to your BioWare account (any game), isn't it that you can't post in the other forums, period?

In any case, I don't see any issue with it. Both forums are open, and at least one prevents spammers.

[vYOSSARIANv]

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

You guys realize you're still allowed to say bad things.

I'm not so sure someone with a user name very similar to mine got a complete forum ban for pointing out that using the UPC/Barcode would allow anyone to register as an owner.

They pointed out they are a bit stupid, without being as rude as that and they were given a complete ban with no warning, nothing.

Now if that person knew anything about proxy IP's and had a UPC code they could just make another account and register as a user again so it was as pointless as was as unfair.

End of Line.

[LanatirDragon]

JohnEpler wrote...

Negativity has not (nor will it ever) gotten anyone banned.

What does get someone banned is insulting their fellow community members, disregarding the site's TOS insofar as discussions about things such as piracy are concerned and repeated spamming.

We don't mind if you're unhappy about the game. What we do mind is when you break the site rules that you agreed to when you signed up, or when you attack your fellow community members because you don't agree with their opinion. And those apply equally to people who are happy with the game and who are unhappy with the game.

But if you really do think that we're systematically banning the dissenters, then I suppose nothing I can tell you could change your mind. I'd imagine the large number of people who remain unbanned would be proof enough, though.

Well, then go read your own Forums. Check how many people write here that they are scared to register their game because a ban here will also restrict their ability to use DLC or activate their game, and then ask yourself WHY they are scared to do so.

You can tell me as long as you want to that this case a few days ago was an accident, as long as there is no clear statement that something like this can and will never happen again, i wont register manure here anymore.

I am far from being a troll, you can see that when you check my registration date. I had a copy of mass effect 1 registered on the old site (dunno why it never carried over) and i recently got me another copy of DA:O Ultimate (i had the original DA:O, albeit unregistered here).

I also bought (and got a refund for, cause it is not my cup of tea) DA2, which i also did not register here.

Thing is,i react VERY strongly against that kind of stuff, censorship and the fear inducting ban hammer. And with this new Forum you come across very much like: Oh, we sort the Forum so that we can see who likes us and who doesnt,  so we know who to ignore (or threaten with bans).

I also have to say sorry for making a connection with Bioware and 1940 germany, it was uncalled for and not right.

[Silvermaul]

Dear Bioware,

I am a developer myself. I know the importance of writing reusable code/modules. This is one of the pinnacles of OOP. However bare in mind that you are making a game. While is is wise to reuse and improve existing code e.g. the conversation wheel (which I hate but it is acceptable) I do not understand how you can literally copy/paste 4-5 generic dungeons and place them into a game and then sell is as content. This simply does not work. You did the same with ME 1, I haven't played/bought II. Remember all planets? Remember all research facilities/caves? All the same textures. I mean come ON..Someone has to be there from the Baldur's gate ERA.. I remind you some of the features of that game : cross classing, hundreds of spells, hundreds of non repeating quest, excellent scripting etc. Where are you guys? I know you are there...

[Kandid001]

Kandid001 wrote...

Unbelievable... Words cannot express how ridiculous this makes you look. I guarantee you, if you ever open subforums for my registered BioWare games, I'll never use them.

My personal experience with the demo and several hours on my friend's X-Box was more than adequate to judge Dragon Age II, and I really shouldn't have to buy a 60 dollar PC game (overpriced, not to mention early DLC) to be able to post my (unfortunately, negative) feedback about it where registered users do. What's next? A General Discussion Plus™ sub forum where only DLC owners can post?

I suggest getting your **** together and focusing on doing what you do best (i.e. good RPG's with balls) before you embarrass yourself further with this whole DA2 fiasco.

Addendum: If the sole reason of opening this new section is to prevent trolling by people who didn't register the game, it looks like trolls already found a way into this special premium clean section. All you are doing is preventing us (i.e. those who don't have DA2 registered) and another portion of the community to discuss the game.

Modifié par Kandid001, 15 mars 2011 - 07:23 .

[vYOSSARIANv]

JohnEpler wrote...

What does get someone banned is insulting their fellow community members, disregarding the site's TOS insofar as discussions about things such as piracy are concerned and repeated spamming.

What tosh, people have been banned for a lot less than that. Fanboys can attack other members and they don't get banned, someone says you only need a UPC code to register as a user, which is 100% true and they get banned.

End of Line

[Bathead]

Bull.

[Rockfist]

JohnEpler wrote...


We don't mind if you're unhappy about the game. What we do mind is when you break the site rules that you agreed to when you signed up, or when you attack your fellow community members because you don't agree with their opinion. And those apply equally to people who are happy with the game and who are unhappy with the game.

Yeah, i'm gonna call that out on bull**** right here. I've watched people openly flame and talk **** to people who critisize the game. I'm referring to the more well thought out threads/posts and not the obvious flamebait stuff. The last week has literally been a series of people who dislike the game being held down by Bioware while blind, zealous fanboys spit and ****** all over them. How is it even possible to deny that when you just split the community up for a little social experiment during a time where stability & good PR is absolutely crucial to Biowares image?

It's like you guys were clueless as to what to do so you just decided to make your own little tree house club and only invite people you like. Not registering a game doesn't mean you haven't played it, and that doesn't also mean it's pirated. People play at friends houses, demos, etc or just dont like to register.

[AkiKishi]

JohnEpler wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

LanatirDragon wrote...

This is a great move, seriously. This way they try to force people into registering the game so they can more easily ban them and restrict their access to the game. Bioware is more and more reminding me of the country i live in. Only....70 years ago.

Smile or you get banned.... That's one way to deal with people being negative.

Negativity has not (nor will it ever) gotten anyone banned.

What does get someone banned is insulting their fellow community members, disregarding the site's TOS insofar as discussions about things such as piracy are concerned and repeated spamming.

We don't mind if you're unhappy about the game. What we do mind is when you break the site rules that you agreed to when you signed up, or when you attack your fellow community members because you don't agree with their opinion. And those apply equally to people who are happy with the game and who are unhappy with the game.

But if you really do think that we're systematically banning the dissenters, then I suppose nothing I can tell you could change your mind. I'd imagine the large number of people who remain unbanned would be proof enough, though.

I've got a rental so it would rather crass of me to register a game someone may buy at a future date. However the little matter of EA being able to lock registered games did not go unnoticed.

[Tirigon]

JohnEpler wrote...
I'd imagine the large number of people who remain unbanned would be proof enough, though.

Mind = blown.


That man makes sense :o

[FDrage]

Reule wrote...

Considering some of the criticisms have been less than mature, it'd be nice to see if some have actually owned the game or took the time to register Dragon Age II.

Owning the game has nothing to do with registering ... For me registering DA2 is showing support for Bioware for that game.  Right now, while I enjoy that game it does not convince me yet ... at least not in the same sense as DA:O did. Personally looking at the market when DA:O came out I thought doing a game like DA:O style was brave and because with the Origins it had something very unique. I got all excited about DA:O ... and to show some sport for these things I registered. Same story with ME1 on the old Bioware side ... as there aren't a lot of RPG style SciFi games out I was nicely happy that Bioware (on of my favorite game companies since I played KotOR) brings a game out that seemingly hits my tasted. Registering ME1 didn't get you much, but I was glade that one of my favorite game companies made a game like ME1 (actually registered Jade Empire for similar reasons, even so I had my grips with some gameplay elements, etc. story and setting I enjoyed).

All those marketing things and how "awesome" the new things are and therefore how "wrong" the old once are (and partially because the changes on paper looked like they would develope away from my taste) I didn't pre-order and was quite wary of buying at all. The Demo at least convinced me to pre-order and I told myself so far Bioware made always a game that overall I enjoyed so "benefit of a doubt" I pre-ordered (granted only a few days before release).

I still have my grips with the chances and that hasn't changed (I'm somewhere in the middle of Act 2 ... I 'd guess) and so far I'm not as pulled into the game as previous games (even ME2 which some of the chances made me just a wary) have. At present I see no point of saying much what I like and what I don't like because one can't have a meaningful discussion about it. Which would be necessary, to breserve some sort of balanced perspective on a game .. any game for the matter.
Bioware can easily check that I bought and pre-ordered the game due to the registered game content.
And now I'm locked out of another forum and can't even write anything in the "help" forums, just because I haven't "registered" the game even so I have bought it (verifiable via the registered game-contents). Great ...

I can quite understand that a lot of those "reviews" are crap and that is one of the reasons I haven't made much of a review (set aside that I wouldn't have any idea on how to improve the things I have an issue with.
And now I've got even less space for a meaningful avenue ... thanks .

[John Epler]

Rockfist wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...


We don't mind if you're unhappy about the game. What we do mind is when you break the site rules that you agreed to when you signed up, or when you attack your fellow community members because you don't agree with their opinion. And those apply equally to people who are happy with the game and who are unhappy with the game.

Yeah, i'm gonna call that out on bull**** right here. I've watched people openly flame and talk **** to people who critisize the game. I'm referring to the more well thought out threads/posts and not the obvious flamebait stuff. The last week has literally been a series of people who dislike the game being held down by Bioware while blind, zealous fanboys spit and ****** all over them. How is it even possible to deny that when you just split the community up for a little social experiment during a time where stability & good PR is absolutely crucial to Biowares image?

It's like you guys were clueless as to what to do so you just decided to make your own little tree house club and only invite people you like. Not registering a game doesn't mean you haven't played it, and that doesn't also mean it's pirated. People play at friends houses, demos, etc or just dont like to register.

Call it what you will, but it remains the truth.

If people are being insulting, then they are dealt with, regardless of what side of the fence they're on. However, because there are only so many moderators, many of the posts are missed since we simply do not have the time or resources to find all of them.

If you have a problem with a user, send a PM to a moderator and it will be dealt with. Insults are not tolerated on either side of the line, but at the same time - we aren't omniscient.

[AtreiyaN7]

cosgamer wrote...

Since DA 2 has already dropped in price in places and is being sold used on auction sites -- all this a week after release, I might purchase it. The game itself is not worth more than $25 (played a friend's) but maybe causing a ruckus in that kiss *** forum might warrant spending some on it.

Ah yes, if only someone somewhere could whip up an actual maturity filter. Do you even think about what you're writing? Calling the forum kiss *** because people have to be registered?  I think a lot of people welcome constructive criticism and a good debate. What many people probably don't want anymore is having to deal with this kind of insulting drivel.

[AJRimmsey]

Tirigon wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
I'd imagine the large number of people who remain unbanned would be proof enough, though.

Mind = blown.


That man makes sense :o

thats 3 magnetic fields disrupted.

critical mass fast approaching.

WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

[vYOSSARIANv]

BobSmith101 wrote...

I've got a rental so it would rather crass of me to register a game someone may buy at a future date. However the little matter of EA being able to lock registered games did not go unnoticed.

But every single code is exactley the same. So it makes no difference if you register it or not. I have also rented the game and my code is the same code as yours, it's only the online pass which is unique.

That being said a user pointed this out in a thread called 'I don't own this game' in the owners forum and was banned from the site.

So you can register as an owner, your owners code is NOT unique, but be very careful what you say, it's worse than Germany 1932-1945 with the Gestapo here.

Modifié par vYOSSARIANv, 15 mars 2011 - 07:37 .