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[John Epler]

vYOSSARIANv wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I've got a rental so it would rather crass of me to register a game someone may buy at a future date. However the little matter of EA being able to lock registered games did not go unnoticed.

But every single code is exactley the same. So it makes no difference if you register it or not. I have also rented the game and my code is the same code as yours, it's only the online pass which is unique.

That being said a user pointed this out in a thread called 'I don't own this game' in the owners forum and was banned from the site.

So you can register as an owner, your owners code is NOT unique, but be very careful what you say, it's worse than Germany 1932-1945 with the Gestapo here.

That user was not banned. I checked, and accidentally banned them - because you see, if you try to ban a user who's 'already banned', the system tells you and will not let you ban them again.

Their thread was moved, however, as it wasn't really an appropriate topic to advertise. If they (or anyone) has any concerns about the moderation on these forums, they can bring them up with a moderator or Chris Priestly.

[AkiKishi]

vYOSSARIANv wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I've got a rental so it would rather crass of me to register a game someone may buy at a future date. However the little matter of EA being able to lock registered games did not go unnoticed.

But every single code is exactley the same. So it makes no difference if you register it or not. I have also rented the game and my code is the same code as yours, it's only the online pass which is unique.

That being said a user pointed this out in a thread called 'I don't own this game' in the owners forum and was banned from the site.

So you can register as an owner, your owners code is NOT unique, but be very careful what you say, it's worse than **** Germany with the Gestapo here.

It took me ages to find the code for ME2

I think the whole situation speaks volumes about just what a let down DA2 was. This has never happened before not even Jade Empire , but then again EA was not involved back then.

That being the case though I may as well register It's not like I actually enjoyed the spam anyway.

[didymos1120]

cosgamer wrote...

Since DA 2 has already dropped in price in places and is being sold used on auction sites -- all this a week after release, I might purchase it.

Oh, right,  "all this a week after release".  So, like practically any other game you'd care to name within the past few years.  I mean, it's gotten to the point where a lot of people treat used game sellers like Gamestop as if they were actually rental shops instead of retailers.  Buy new, trade in a few days later, buy something else new, trade in a few days later...

Modifié par didymos1120, 15 mars 2011 - 07:42 .

[Debakoleriker]

vYOSSARIANv wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I've got a rental so it would rather crass of me to register a game someone may buy at a future date. However the little matter of EA being able to lock registered games did not go unnoticed.

But every single code is exactley the same. So it makes no difference if you register it or not. I have also rented the game and my code is the same code as yours, it's only the online pass which is unique.

That being said a user pointed this out in a thread called 'I don't own this game' in the owners forum and was banned from the site.

So you can register as an owner, your owners code is NOT unique, but be very careful what you say, it's worse than Germany 1932-1945 with the Gestapo here.

I'm sorry, but wtf? You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Leading this discussion "ad hitlerum" will not change anything and just get you banned (I hope!) for the right reason of being a troll and not you criticising Bioware's work.

[MonkeyLungs]

The real story is that Bioware felt like they even needed to do this at all. Never seen this happen before and I have posted on Bioware forums since way before they merged to this Ea Social Site BS.

[Darth Executor]

Sarakinoi wrote...

I own it, I don't hate it, and I can perfectly understand why Bio don't want people who don't even own the game to keep rambling on without having played first.

You don't have to own it to play it. Not even talking about piracy here either, there is such a thing as renting or borrowing.

[Reule]

FDrage wrote...

Owning the game has nothing to do with registering ... For me registering DA2 is showing support for Bioware for that game.  Right now, while I enjoy that game it does not convince me yet ... at least not in the same sense as DA:O did. Personally looking at the market when DA:O came out I thought doing a game like DA:O style was brave and because with the Origins it had something very unique. I got all excited about DA:O ... and to show some sport for these things I registered. Same story with ME1 on the old Bioware side ... as there aren't a lot of RPG style SciFi games out I was nicely happy that Bioware (on of my favorite game companies since I played KotOR) brings a game out that seemingly hits my tasted. Registering ME1 didn't get you much, but I was glade that one of my favorite game companies made a game like ME1 (actually registered Jade Empire for similar reasons, even so I had my grips with some gameplay elements, etc. story and setting I enjoyed).

All those marketing things and how "awesome" the new things are and therefore how "wrong" the old once are (and partially because the changes on paper looked like they would develope away from my taste) I didn't pre-order and was quite wary of buying at all. The Demo at least convinced me to pre-order and I told myself so far Bioware made always a game that overall I enjoyed so "benefit of a doubt" I pre-ordered (granted only a few days before release).

I still have my grips with the chances and that hasn't changed (I'm somewhere in the middle of Act 2 ... I 'd guess) and so far I'm not as pulled into the game as previous games (even ME2 which some of the chances made me just a wary) have. At present I see no point of saying much what I like and what I don't like because one can't have a meaningful discussion about it. Which would be necessary, to breserve some sort of balanced perspective on a game .. any game for the matter.
Bioware can easily check that I bought and pre-ordered the game due to the registered game content.
And now I'm locked out of another forum and can't even write anything in the "help" forums, just because I haven't "registered" the game even so I have bought it (verifiable via the registered game-contents). Great ...

I can quite understand that a lot of those "reviews" are crap and that is one of the reasons I haven't made much of a review (set aside that I wouldn't have any idea on how to improve the things I have an issue with.
And now I've got even less space for a meaningful avenue ... thanks .

Regardless of what you feel registering means to you, it doesn't have to reflect any sort of support for the game. It just shows exactly what it does, that you own the game or at least took the effort into registering it's UPC code. It's unfortunate but the backlash has been a little bit too extreme for me to have too much sympathy. There's a point where you disagree with what direction a franchise has taken and just outright elementary behavior.

[DanaScu]

Frumyfrenzy wrote...

I think it is a valid move to filter people that didn't play the game but voice their opinion nonetheless. And if someone with an unregistered copy but an bioware account doesn't like that, why don't they register their copy and join? They already have an account here, so what's the problem?

Well, the company you rented the game from might be a bit peeved that you registered *their* game, for one thing. Your brother/sister/friend that you borrowed the game from might be a little annoyed that you registered *their* game. Or they might have already registered their copy of the the game they allowed you to borrow, which means you can't register it again.

So even though you actually played the game and you have an opinion, you can't post in the "registered game only" forum.

Which isn't going to help the pr over this one single bit, I think.

[Merci357]

Try posting anything on the WOW forums without an active account. Try posting anything about Rift if you have one, and see what happens.

[Darth Executor]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

cosgamer wrote...

Since DA 2 has already dropped in price in places and is being sold used on auction sites -- all this a week after release, I might purchase it. The game itself is not worth more than $25 (played a friend's) but maybe causing a ruckus in that kiss *** forum might warrant spending some on it.

Ah yes, if only someone somewhere could whip up an actual maturity filter

If they did the boards would be empty.

[AkiKishi]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

The real story is that Bioware felt like they even needed to do this at all. Never seen this happen before and I have posted on Bioware forums since way before they merged to this Ea Social Site BS.

I know it's nuts , but now I have typed in some numbers I feel totally superior all of a sudden..

I'm guessing the next release will have a unique registration number.

[AkiKishi]

didymos1120 wrote...

cosgamer wrote...

Since DA 2 has already dropped in price in places and is being sold used on auction sites -- all this a week after release, I might purchase it.

Oh, right,  "all this a week after release".  So, like practically any other game you'd care to name within the past few years.  I mean, it's gotten to the point where a lot of people treat used game sellers like Gamestop as if they were actually rental shops instead of retailers.  Buy new, trade in a few days later, buy something else new, trade in a few days later...

Don't know about that but there was a shelf of them on the pre-owned section in my local place. Only marked down £5 too. It just makes me wonder about todays gamers and the "mass market" but on the other hand if I could have done that when I was hurting for cash I probably would have.

[Gatt9]

Merci357 wrote...

Try posting anything on the WOW forums without an active account. Try posting anything about Rift if you have one, and see what happens.

Pretty sure I can go d/l the demo and post to those boards.  Contrast this with Bioware where I can d/l the demo,  but am now segregated out because I don't think it was a quality game.

Modifié par Gatt9, 15 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[TJSolo]

Merci357 wrote...

Try posting anything on the WOW forums without an active account. Try posting anything about Rift if you have one, and see what happens.

MMOs have a completely different business and forum structure. Those that have paid the active fee to access those games have access to the forums, that that have not paid the fee do not have access to either.
You simply can't "rent" a WoW account for 7 days and have relevant imput on that game.

[Rockfist]

JohnEpler wrote...

Call it what you will, but it remains the truth.

If people are being insulting, then they are dealt with, regardless of what side of the fence they're on. However, because there are only so many moderators, many of the posts are missed since we simply do not have the time or resources to find all of them.

If you have a problem with a user, send a PM to a moderator and it will be dealt with. Insults are not tolerated on either side of the line, but at the same time - we aren't omniscient.

You almost sound like you beleive yourself.

Well, sorry. This is the first i've met you, it's probably those other two mods, really. Sorry for taking it out on you, but flaming seems to be the only way to get any sort of attention on this forum.

[Rockfist]

Reule wrote...
Regardless of what you feel registering means to you, it doesn't have to reflect any sort of support for the game. It just shows exactly what it does, that you own the game or at least took the effort into registering it's UPC code. It's unfortunate but the backlash has been a little bit too extreme for me to have too much sympathy. There's a point where you disagree with what direction a franchise has taken and just outright elementary behavior.

Oh come on guys, is everyone still in a bubble here? You do know a guy got banned on these forums by EA recently and lost access to DA2 for a few days? If you register your game to your account, EA can disable access to it. They revoked it after some time, i think, saying it was a mistake this time, but they do have the right to disable your account, which for that guy meant he couldn't play DA2 for 72hours originally.

[skylr616]

Gatt9 wrote...

Pretty sure I can go d/l the demo and post to those boards.  Contrast this with Bioware where I can d/l the demo,  but am now segregated out because I don't think it was a quality game.

Bioware made a very poor demo (IMO)... it is not representative of the final product.

The threads, comments and reviews being discussed in the game owner section seem to be (not so) surprisingly positive... kind of goes to show just how often people will mouth off about something they really know little to nothing about.

[Merci357]

TJSolo wrote...

Merci357 wrote...

Try posting anything on the WOW forums without an active account. Try posting anything about Rift if you have one, and see what happens.

MMOs have a completely different business and forum structure. Those that have paid the active fee to access those games have access to the forums, that that have not paid the fee do not have access to either.
You simply can't "rent" a WoW account for 7 days and have relevant imput on that game.

You could do a 14 days trial - that is no relevant input then?

[Cadaveth]

Guesswhotoo wrote...

I literally just noticed that too!!! I remember hearing some posters crying about how they were sick of all the negativity toward Dragon Age 2 and that they thought that Bioware should make a "Registered Owners Of Dragon Age 2" thread to curtail all the hate this game generates!! thats too funny!!

Ignorance is bliss...

[Otterwarden]

didymos1120 wrote...

Imryll wrote...

It comes across a bit like circling the wagons, but their forums, their rules. I can understand why for this particular game they'd want to provide folks who have registered the game a separate place to discuss their impressions.

At this point, it doesn't matter what they do, because too many people are just bound and determined to interpret everything in as a poor a light as possible. Likely, nothing short of the entire EA executive staff and the various DA2 leads committing public seppukku, after having composed abject apology haikus, would appease people.  And even then, a lot of 'em would still b!tch about how ritual suicide was totally better before EA got involved and that their haiku sucked and was clearly a rush job and that the intestines of some of the suicides kinda looked fake, etc.,etc., etc.

Ok, I'm voting this a 10+ for the trainwreck entertainment factor.  Didymos1120 that has to be one of the funniest things I've read over the handling of this fiasco.  I was going to post that someone needed to get these guys into a crash PR course before they shot themselves in the foot again, but you've convinced me that it would be futile at this point.  Beautiful description of the situation.

[Reule]

Rockfist wrote...

Oh come on guys, is everyone still in a bubble here? You do know a guy got banned on these forums by EA recently and lost access to DA2 for a few days? If you register your game to your account, EA can disable access to it. They revoked it after some time, i think, saying it was a mistake this time, but they do have the right to disable your account, which for that guy meant he couldn't play DA2 for 72hours originally.

I also don't place myself in situations where I have to act that way on official forums/chat for that to happen, whether it be their right or a mistake. Regardless, I doubt very much that situation will happen again considering many of the news sites and forums threw a fit over it.

[Malanek]

Silvermaul wrote...

 OK so let me get this straight, you are so sick of people telling you that you have failed that you only want to hear the "registered" owners? What's next?

"Registered Game Owner Who Like Dragon Age II and he will write that he likes it thread"?

The epic failure of Dragon Age II is only surpassed by the fact that you honestly think that this game is good. Sorry for being so harsh however from all the great bioware rpgs I have played this is the worst by far. 

0.02

I'm struggling to see your problem. They have added a forum. The old one still exists and you can continue to give your "constructive criticism" here. The new one exists presumably so that people who do own the game and are prepared to take a minute to register, can have the usual discussion without being subjected to massive amounts of spam.

[flipperwhipper]

Malanek999 wrote...

Silvermaul wrote...

 OK so let me get this straight, you are so sick of people telling you that you have failed that you only want to hear the "registered" owners? What's next?

"Registered Game Owner Who Like Dragon Age II and he will write that he likes it thread"?

The epic failure of Dragon Age II is only surpassed by the fact that you honestly think that this game is good. Sorry for being so harsh however from all the great bioware rpgs I have played this is the worst by far. 

0.02

I'm struggling to see your problem. They have added a forum. The old one still exists and you can continue to give your "constructive criticism" here. The new one exists presumably so that people who do own the game and are prepared to take a minute to register, can have the usual discussion without being subjected to massive amounts of spam.

Pretty simple really, it looks bad.  No other forums have similar "registered only" sections.  It's not a big deal but it sends a bad message.

And I've been browsing these forums since the game came out, I haven't seen this "spam" you're talking about.  Unless negative criticism counts.

Modifié par flipperwhipper, 15 mars 2011 - 08:07 .

[rubydog1]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

The real story is that Bioware felt like they even needed to do this at all. Never seen this happen before and I have posted on Bioware forums since way before they merged to this Ea Social Site BS.

Pretty sure some of the old Bioware forums have required for you to have game's CD-Key registered to your account in order to allow you to post in some parts of the forums, making them de facto registered game owner forums for years now.

After glancing at the NWN2 boards, this policy seems to still be in effect. Of the 15 NWN2 forums, only 3 allow posts by users who have not registered a CD-key.