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[Lowenhart]

Well, ive been asking myself why is it less you make a mage, Anders basically only healer option in game, Merill can't learn healing spells it seems, and Bethany is stripped away early in game to go train at the circle. I feel like its kinda lame as it really limit you gameplay exsperience, i realise Anders play a major role in DA2 but does it mean he has to be only healer option there? What do everyone else think?

[xZitx]

I hated that dude...as mage there's no problem, I am the healer, but as rouge I put difficulty on normal and just played full dps without healer...Couldn``t bring myself to drag that little traitor with me all the time...

[syllogi]

If it hasn't already been done, I'm sure that someone will make a mod that gives Merrill access to the Creation tree, if not making her a spirit healer.

Honestly, you can do without a healer, on Normal. You've even got Life Ward potions now, to replace Revival. But I think the writers wanted most players to at least use Anders part of the time, to get to know him before the finale.

[Lowenhart]

TeenZombie wrote...

If it hasn't already been done, I'm sure that someone will make a mod that gives Merrill access to the Creation tree, if not making her a spirit healer.

Honestly, you can do without a healer, on Normal. You've even got Life Ward potions now, to replace Revival. But I think the writers wanted most players to at least use Anders part of the time, to get to know him before the finale.

I know i just felt bit like i was stuck with him, seems alot the boss fights can be a nuke race or potion drinking festival without a healer along. I had easy route and was healer - aoe/single dps with main as i wanted to make a mage like in trailer, but i just got annoyed with only being able to use Anders for healing, no offense to him his great character just feel used to having more freedom.

Modifié par Lowenhart, 15 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[Invalidcode]

No problem for me, no healer really isn't that bad, on hard anyways. Actually I ran without a tank & healer most of the game.

[RosaAquafire]

Healing is really, really, really not that useful in this game. Regroup is useful, but only insofar as that you can be lazier. Having a healer REALLY only gives you one extra pot cooldown a minute.

I played on Hard, and actually found it got EASIER when I benched Anders for Merrill.

[-Arlan-]

I finished normal as a rogue archer with Aveline, Sebastian, Merrill and myself - no healer needed. My guess is harder difficulties can be completed without a healer as well if you have the right group and are specced well.

[mione]

I hated that too. I really hope they make all the classes for mage's open to everyone again in DA3.

They just did it because if you are not a mage then you are force to take Anders with you in the end. It really kills the "RP" aspect for me as any class but mage.

[Clonedzero]

i just found a mod in the mod forum here that gives merril creation magic, which is awesome.

(also gives aveline 2her tree, isabella archery, ect.)

[Siven80]

Only playing on normal, but i havent found the need for a dedicated healer that often really. I also prefer Merrill to Anders and so dont use Anders often.

But i do miss the choice to use heal or glyph or paralysis when using Merrill, why she cant use the creation tree i dont know.

[Posmerga]

Wish we had more "mage" characters to be honest, especially after bethany left/died depending on how you handeld the end of act 1.

I even wished that Qunari Mage I guarded for a certain quest would join me, no such luck, the idiot had to go and burn himself to death.

[Locutus13]

Yeah apart from going mage yourself there is no choice when you are looking for a healer. I am on my 2nd playthrough atm. Went mage this time ... gonna try to get Anders to rival and join the templars on the final fight ... if that is possible ...
I was also wondering if I could join forces with the Qunari when they try to take over the city ... though that might not be logical as mages and Qunari usually don't work well together ...

[Posmerga]

Locutus13 wrote...

Yeah apart from going mage yourself there is no choice when you are looking for a healer. I am on my 2nd playthrough atm. Went mage this time ... gonna try to get Anders to rival and join the templars on the final fight ... if that is possible ...
I was also wondering if I could join forces with the Qunari when they try to take over the city ... though that might not be logical as mages and Qunari usually don't work well together ...

Just ask the qunari mage who burned himself to death.

[Valingard]

I like what I am hearing, so far I am using Anders as a healer/support character and only arm him with a few offense spells (mainly from the elemental tree). Is this a waster or character slot? Would I better off using another ranged dps instead of Anders? Also, I am on normal mode. One last question-Has any heard about the diminishing returns for stats? Anyone know where I can find more info on this? Thanks.

[Lowenhart]

I dunno personally i like having a healer, even if a few says its not useful, but then again my PC Pre order version still suffering alot of bugs, among them high dragon often bug not coming down again, after its dragon kin get twarted which is annoying, as it limits you to range fire, while getting hit with quite a few breath fire balls.

[MKLNZ]

My problem with no healer besides my self is that merrill often kills herself by getting over agro, or forgetting to turn off her blood magic spell at 50% hp. she atleast needs some form of self heal while in her blood magic mode.

Modifié par MKLNZ, 19 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[UltiPup]

You act like Origins didn't have exactly one healer.

[Maria Caliban]

Lowenhart wrote...

Well, ive been asking myself why is it less you make a mage, Anders basically only healer option in game, Merill can't learn healing spells it seems, and Bethany is stripped away early in game to go train at the circle. I feel like its kinda lame as it really limit you gameplay exsperience, i realise Anders play a major role in DA2 but does it mean he has to be only healer option there? What do everyone else think?

Yes, this annoys me. Then I discovered Restoration potions:
80% health
60% stamina/mana
30 second cool down

They're actually better than the mage's healing spells. Since you can have Bethany until the end of Act 1, you don't need to worry about their price as by Act 2, you have enough coin to buy them in bucketfulls.

UltiPup wrote...

You act like Origins didn't have exactly one healer.

Origins had two healers.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 19 mars 2011 - 07:40 .

[Nokternul]

Invalidcode wrote...

No problem for me, no healer really isn't that bad, on hard anyways. Actually I ran without a tank & healer most of the game.

Same, well... Fenris and Warrior Hawke, even though 2h, can pretty much double as tanks more often than not. Healer can generally be substituted for potions though--still, it'd be nice to at least have another healer option aside from freaggin Anders. I can't stand him, and he only proves he's a bastard as the game progresses.

[jfp2004]

That did annoy me. I didn't always want to bring Anders along, but if there was the possibility that the healing might come in handy, I'd keep him in anyway. I'm using a mod now to give Merril the creation tree for the second play through, though, so that should help for that.

[SmokeyTheBear]

I play on the X-Box... so mods are out of the question.

I don't really care though. Just roll a MaleHawke and get a beard. Basically makes him impervious to death.

[Ryzaki]

Really I only have one option for a 2HD warrior and that's Fen because Carver bounces after act 1, If you don't have Seb you have one archer which is Varric, One DW rogue which is Isabela. Most of the choices are restricted.

Frankly that's frustrating in of itself. 

I shouldn't have to use Isabela to have a dual wielding rogue that's not the PC in the party. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 mars 2011 - 09:02 .

[theradicalpunk]

Just make sure to give merill arcane shield with the aoe effect and rock armor and you should do skate on anything not nightmare.

[theradicalpunk]

Ryzaki wrote...

Really I only have one option for a 2HD
warrior and that's Fen because Carver bounces after act 1, If you don't
have Seb you have one archer which is Varric, One DW rogue which is
Isabela. Most of the choices are restricted.

Frankly that's frustrating in of itself. 

I shouldn't have to use Isabela to have a dual wielding rogue that's not the PC in the party. 

I agree they need to come out with a FREE DLC or I pray to Andrastes teets someone makes a mod to fix the pigeon holing.

Face it folks this game's suppoused 'freedom,' in class building is an illusion.

Save character specilizations, which the majority just sucks I'd like for all the characters to be able to choose a specilization like Hawke... hell like Dragon Age Origins.

Anyways if BIOWARE is smare they'll realize this, if not then oh well. Still a good game.

Modifié par theradicalpunk, 19 mars 2011 - 09:06 .

[saresy]

I usually run with a high damage team, and stun or kill high damage foes (ie mages) first to limit damage taken, seems to work okay for me. I usually only take Anders on quests which will specifically annoy him when I kill mages. (Rivalry building)