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[WidowMaker9394]

 ...isn't it the perfect moment for the Qunari to strike now when The Chantry's greatest weapon, the mages, have turned against them? Wouldn't they strike Tevinter first and would that mean that DA3 takes place there?

A three-way war with a forth-coming apocalyptic event around the corner as predicted by everyones favorite dwarf? That's the time when heroes are made, I say.:happy:

Modifié par WidowMaker9394, 15 mars 2011 - 09:42 .

[Nyaore]

I'd be shocked if the Qunari didn't try to interject themselves into the situation, or at the very least attempt to conquer the weakened lands directly after the conflict ends.

[ZeroDotZero]

They wouldn't strike Tevinter first, because Tevinter is the only nation to not be enveloped in chaos. It has no templars, and the mages rule over already. Attacking the only stable nation in an unstable world is stupid.

[Augustei]

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

 ...isn't it the perfect moment for the Qunari to strike now when The Chantry's greatest weapon, the mages, have turned against them? Wouldn't they strike Tevinter first and would that mean that DA3 takes place there?

A three-way war with a forth-coming apocalyptic event around the corner as predicted by everyones favorite dwarf? That's the time when heroes are made, I say.:happy:

They have been at war with tevinter for 200 years non stop.. they wouldn't "Strike at tevinter first" when they already are and have been.. But yes I will be suprised if they dont strike, the Lllomeryn accord has already been broken.. Mages will be to busy fighting templars.. all the countries will be on the brink of war Templars have rebelled so no exalted marches as well.. Thedas is Boned lol.. great work anders *Claps* causing Disunity just after the accord was broken.. Lets see your mage freedom when they are all leashed, have their tongue cut out and their mouths stitched and find themselves wearing face masks.. Well done sir, well done indeed.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 15 mars 2011 - 09:49 .

[JamesX]

Exalted March is not governed by Templers. They are the police of the Circle.

The Chantry have other military arms and it is not just the Templers.

Plus Exalted March is a call to arms to all followers of Andraste (Like Crusades in our world).

[WidowMaker9394]

XxDeonxX wrote...

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

 ...isn't it the perfect moment for the Qunari to strike now when The Chantry's greatest weapon, the mages, have turned against them? Wouldn't they strike Tevinter first and would that mean that DA3 takes place there?

A three-way war with a forth-coming apocalyptic event around the corner as predicted by everyones favorite dwarf? That's the time when heroes are made, I say.:happy:

They have been at war with tevinter for 200 years non stop.. they wouldn't "Strike at tevinter first" when they already are and have been.. But yes I will be suprised if they dont strike, the Lllomeryn accord has already been broken.. Mages will be to busy fighting templars.. all the countries will be on the brink of war Templars have rebelled so no exalted marches as well.. Thedas is Boned lol

They've been at war but for a long time, yes, but they're not actively sending soldiers at each other. It's mentioneds several times how many believe that the Qunari are holding back their might until the time is right,

ZeroDotZero wrote...

They wouldn't strike Tevinter first, because Tevinter is the only nation to not be enveloped in chaos. It has no templars, and the mages rule over already. Attacking the only stable nation in an unstable world is stupid.

Anders said they had templars there as well. Or maybe it was Fenris. It it the only nation that is ruled by mages so I was thinking that that's where all of the mages who could flee did so. It's obvious they want their former glory back.

[Invalidcode]

It either Tevinter or Antiva first.

For Antiva they would go there from Rivain (I highly doubt Rivain will give them any resistance), Tevinter they can go from Seheron, or having two fronts at the same time, high risk high reward and it won't gave them any room to breath.

If they go to Free Marches or even Ferelden first that's a long long long supply line, you won't want that.

Taking Tevinter first got it's advantage, by the time the Qun did finish, the rest would tired from their own mage/templar wars already.

But there is a risk to invade others when they are having a civil war, the invader give them a perfect reason for everyone to stop fighting and bound together.

[AtreiyaN7]

Well, judging by my chats with Fenris, I'm thinking their number one target might by Tevinter first. It sounds like they might be building up for a war with them. Then again, the qunari are fairly inscrutable, and it does some like a good time to strike at places like Kirkwall. I just wonder what will happen with Rivain since they do (mostly) believe in the Qun. Now that I think about it...Sten certainly did make it sound like one day the qunari would invade Ferelden and/or other countries in DA:O.

[Johun]

Fenris said that the Tevinter Chantry is run by magisters, including its templars. If that is indeed true, what would be the point of their existance? Perhaps in the Imperium, the templars have to protect the mages from the people?

[WidowMaker9394]

Johun wrote...

Fenris said that the Tevinter Chantry is run by magisters, including its templars. If that is indeed true, what would be the point of their existance? Perhaps in the Imperium, the templars have to protect the mages from the people?

Tools used by the magisters to dispose of less powerful opponents?

[Dean_the_Young]

That might (and likely is) a part of it, but there's likely more.

In the White Chantry, the non-magi hold power, and the Templars exist to both regulate escaped/dangerous Magi and keep the Magi from rising to a point in which they could throw off their restrictions. The Templars support the power structure, and that power structure is non-magical.

In the Black Chantry, the magi hold power, and the Templars are a means of regulating the rogue magi, if only because Templars are a non-magical solution to magical problems. The Templars still serve the authority, but that Authority is magical and has different priorities. One of those priorities, as you mention, may well being to keep the muggles down.

[JamesX]

Tevinter Chantry is like the English Church vs the Catholic Church. Similiar Dogma, different head.

They differ in the believe that the Prince (King of England) Serve the Voice of God (Pope) (Magic is to Serve Man not Rule Him).

As for Templars is just a title.  It has no meaning beyond that.  For all we know their "Templars" are actually all Rogue class with Lyarium Tattoos.

Modifié par JamesX, 15 mars 2011 - 10:05 .

[Invalidcode]

Johun wrote...

Fenris said that the Tevinter Chantry is run by magisters, including its templars. If that is indeed true, what would be the point of their existance? Perhaps in the Imperium, the templars have to protect the mages from the people?

Just a politic show for Orlais's White divine maybe?

Tevinter: Hey we got Templars too, so don't be mad ok? (Even we both know they are just for show)
Orlais: Oh OK!

[hazarkazra]

Yep, it makes sense. If you read the Exalted March reports it has been said their success against the Qunari was thanks to the Circle Mages.

While Tevinter is not reall struck by the Circle rebellions you need to keep in mind that they only 'won' against the Qunari before because of the Exalted Marches. Without the other Thedas countries backing them up, say because they are fighting for or against mages, Tevinter is on it's own. Fenris commented that the Qunari could easily take over the Tevinter Imperium if they felt like it, but so far they seem to be content with the land they have.

It's even questionable if Tevinter will get any help at all. Thanks to the rebellions The Chantry will take a more conservative stand on matters, maybe even close to fanatic. When you're fighting mage rebellions you can't explain why you suddenly support a religious war to protect the Tevinter Imperium and it's Chantry. Those are after all a bigger afront to the Maker then any other instution, even apostates/malificar.

[Darian Tylmare]

But even so, all mages don'T want to budge to anyone. And Fenris said it and the game showed it, in time of crisis almost all mages resort to blood magic. This is the one branch that let's you control people so it's really easy for a blood mage to raise an army full of bewitched warriors and weaker mages searching for savety.
So it's not a free for all but magocraties like Tevinter first against the Qunari and next against themselfes.

[Augustei]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Well, judging by my chats with Fenris, I'm thinking their number one target might by Tevinter first. It sounds like they might be building up for a war with them. Then again, the qunari are fairly inscrutable, and it does some like a good time to strike at places like Kirkwall. I just wonder what will happen with Rivain since they do (mostly) believe in the Qun. Now that I think about it...Sten certainly did make it sound like one day the qunari would invade Ferelden and/or other countries in DA:O.

He talked of that prior to this crisis, and back then Invading Ferelden would have been the biggest Mistake the Qunari could have made.. Its the Birthplace of Andraste, the Jerusalem of Thedas.. The Exalted March to take it back would gain more support then any other.

[Pileyourbodies]

odds are if the quinari invaded then the Mages would rejoin with the Templars to fight them off. Being in the circle is bad but being locked up in chains and mouth sealed shut is not very good.

[TJPags]

YES!!! Please!!!!!

Let the Qunari invade. The whole damn world has gone to pot, and what it needs is a big kick in the Qun.

Yes, I'm serious.

[Medhia Nox]

I kinda was hoping that I'd get to understand Thedas a little better before they did something like this.

I was really beginning to enjoy understanding the world - now they're just throwing out some of the more unique features of Thedas (the Circle and the Templars).

If there must be a war - I hope the Empress declares a March and crushes the opposition. I'll be right by her side with my mage.

[Augustei]

The Empress cant declare a march.

Anyway I hope she fails to crush the opposition, I hope the balance of power falls to Ferelden or Nevarra. Two said countries make an Alliance, Crush Orlais and take shares in their land

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 16 mars 2011 - 02:08 .

[Dante Angelo]

The Qunari are too busy eating cookies & cake to invade.

[Sammyjb]

They definitely wouldn't go to Tevinter. Tevinter has been putting up a strong resistance and is unaffected by this crisis. I would be surprised if Rivain or Antiva was immediatly taken. Except perhaps the lack of an Arishok would put them off for a while.