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[FastimusRex]

What do the forums think of the Qunari? In general or specifically. Personally, I find them to be one of the most intriguing races in Dragon Age. I've always been a fan of Plato's Republic and to that end; I think the Qunari are pretty much the only race with any sense.

They don't have some foolish Chantry dedicated to the worship of an absent god, founded by an immolated saint, who was undoubtedly insane and an adulteress, if the Chant of Light is to be believed.

They don't wallow in slavery or degradation futily trying to preserve their dying ways, all the while content with the vapid weakness so prevalent amongst their kin. Content to do nothing against their oppressors. Not uniting, just wandering or living in an alienage. Paying a lip service to hidden or jailed gods. Or forsaking their heritage entirely, and worshiping Andraste. When is was Shartan who 'freed' them. Fen'harel is all that is left and he could care less about what the elves have become.

They follow a moral and ethical code that has lead to spiritual and cultural breakthroughs. They grant everyone a place in the Qun, a place to exist and find purpose. When they feel it's time to conquer and change the way of things, they do. All the Qunari wanted from Tevinter was Seheron, which they took. All they wanted from Rivain was Par Vollen, which they took. They captured Kirkwall, in the Free Marches, in an extremely short time.

So, what do the forums think about the Qunari?

[Augustei]

They did forsake their heritige.. They used to be like the rest of Thedas before coming to Par Vollen and Seheron. The Qun wasn't always their way of life

Across the seas outside Thedas, You will most likely find their race who probably have their own beliefs or something.. I mean they were apparently pretty advanced having magnificent buildings and stuff over there.. Of course, they have lost contact.

But saying they didn't forsake their heritage.. isn't exactly true.

Also Par Vollen belonged to Tevinter, no Rivain.. and they attempted to take Rivain, Antiva and The Free Marches and continue to war with Tevinter to this day.

But yeah I find them to be the most interesting, awesome and badass of the Dragon Age races.. I found myself actually agreeing with the Arishok in DA2. And sten was one of my favourite charecters in Origins.. The Qun is the most facisnating point of the game.
Hopefully they dont conquer all of Thedas though.. the lack of diversity would be rather boring. Hope they defeat Tevinter one day though

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 16 mars 2011 - 01:35 .

[JamesX]

They have got to be aliens landing from another planet. They have NERVE GAS!!! Mind Control! Gun Powder! and who knows what else

[FastimusRex]

Actually, the Qun itself was written by Koslun while still on their homeland somewhere far north of Seheron and Par Vollen. There is a codex entry that says something along the lines of Koslun going into the desert, sickend by his society. Seeing all the riches and the very few poor and still seing sadness and misery rampant. He waited in the desert, vowing not to return until he found a way to help his people.

He returned with the Qun. Now, sure, they had beliefs before the Qun, but now they are Qunari, followers of the Qun. Anything else is forgotten.

[Zalocx]

They are interesting

Their society is a bit too totalitarian for my modern westernized tastes but it does have its obvious merits. Everyone has their place and seem to consider this a good thing. They rely on technology more than magic. They aren't superstitious. Lack of individual freedoms might mean lack of personal ambition but it allows them to have a more stable and less corrupt society than say Tivinter or Orlais and as they are the most scientifically and philosophically advanced culture in Thedas I can't even say it hinders their cultural progress

[Clonedzero]

the qunari are facists personally i'd rather live in a chantry controlled country than one run by the qunari.

with the qun you're born into a role, if you try and change that, you are laveled an outcast and killed on sight. women arent allowed the same rights as men. if they dont think you're strong then you dont deserve to live. they treat their mages significantly worse than the templars do.

so yeah, im all for killing some Qunari.

[FastimusRex]

Also, I guess I erred. Geographically, Par Vollen is north of Rivain, so I just assumed.

[Invalidcode]

I think the Qunari are pretty much the only race with any sense.

Well, we got a mage burned himself to death because the Qun demands it.
Our Sten can't go back until he get his sword back or he will be KOS, doesn't matter he lost the sword because he got jumped by DS. Oh did you remember he killed a family for that?

Does their way work? Yeah for sure. But the way of Qun sure got it's flaws.

And if one values individual freedom/individuality not way you can agree with the way of the Qun.

Qunari as whole isn't bad though.

P.S. In game wise dealing with them is always a mix of interesting/ why even bother for me. BW created a very interesting race.

Modifié par Invalidcode, 15 mars 2011 - 10:29 .

[Zalocx]

Clonedzero wrote...
with the qun you're born into a role

Wrong, you are born into a probable "caste" you actual role is based on merit. The son of a Farmer and a Soldier is bound to life in the army yes. But depending on how he does in his formative years he can either be assigned to the Vanguard, become an artilery operator, a mage handler, or a tactician. Which are hardly the same jobs and he is only locked into them he is GOOD at them.

Clonedzero wrote...
if you try and change that, you are laveled an outcast and killed on sight.

And if you try to gainsay a Chevalier in Orlais you can be cut down on the spot. Every society in Thedas has its cultural norms and going against them is fatal most places.

Clonedzero wrote...
women arent allowed the same rights as men.

And men arn't allowed the same rights as women . . . Qunari society is segregated by gender yes, but its not unequal segregation. Men arn't more important than women and women arn't more important than men. Hell the very thing that oversees this gender gap is the Tamassran, the Qunari priesthood, which is a female only occupation.

Clonedzero wrote...
if they dont think you're strong then you dont deserve to live.

The Arishok said that, and in DA:O Sten told Lelianna that how he as a soldier sees the wolrd is different than how another Qunari in a different occupation does. So yes the Commander in Chief of the Qunari Militay, a soldier born and bred, thinks only the stong deserve to live. Ask the Ariqun or Arigena, you will probably get a radically different answer.

Clonedzero wrote...
they treat their mages significantly worse than the templars do.

I disagree, serebas might be chained up and controled with a rod but in my mind that is better than Traquility. Both are horrible yes, but you can smash the rod and the serebas is free. As Anders said about the Tranqil: "you can't heal a beheading"

Modifié par Zalocx, 15 mars 2011 - 10:40 .

[Zalocx]

edit fail:crying:

[ShadyKat]

Wish we had one as a companion in DA2. The Quanri mage was awesome, for the short time he was with you.

[FastimusRex]

Zalocx wins. lol

The Qun breeds equality. And ultimately, individuality is worthless and only breeds contempt for one another. Party A has this option, party B another = conflict.

In the Qun, I imagine it goes down like this. The Arishok says attack, you attack. The Arigena says go sell those basra good, you go sell goods.

You aren't necessarily born into a role, the Ben Hassrath groom you into where your strengths lay. From an early age, children are monitored and groomed based on their strengths or weaknesses. That in itself essentially eliminates poverty and apathy. If individuality has to go in the process, by all means.

As for the mages, the only truly good mage I ever met was Wynne and maybe Irving. Other than that, they all want power and are easily corrupted. By turning a child into saarebas, you not only protect others, you protect the saarebas from corruption. I didn't like whiny Fenris much, but he certainly had a good point in association to mages.

[Jiggasaurus]

They are a really impressive race, how they always leave you questioning their motives really makes them a wonderful addition & race to the Dragon Age world.

[likeorasgod]

ShadyKat wrote...

Wish we had one as a companion in DA2. The Quanri mage was awesome, for the short time he was with you.

I agree, I was so thinking...welll looks like all my mages are getting shelved after this part.

[Evil Asch]

likeorasgod wrote...

ShadyKat wrote...

Wish we had one as a companion in DA2. The Quanri mage was awesome, for the short time he was with you.

I agree, I was so thinking...welll looks like all my mages are getting shelved after this part.

What makes you say that? The war?

[Medhia Nox]

I think I follow the Qun in real life - well, some of it.

The Qun seems to be a "Purpose driven life." You have a purpose - and you must strive for it. Having no purpose breeds what the Qunari despise the most - ineffectual animals parading their "freedom" around.

I think the Qunari "Truth" is that this "freedom" is a slavery to base impulses. A purpose driven life - serving the Qun - is productive and meaningful.

I like the Qunari a lot.

[Dr. wonderful]

I hate the Qunari.

To me this is their way " Do it my way or we will kill you."
The Chantry is like that too, but at least the Chantry have people who actually want to help peolpe.