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[VettoRyouzou]

TJPags wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

TJPags wrote...

You want to explain that one? What Warden did you make in DA2?

Oie.. To quote the wiki to the tee.

"The events of Awakening begin six months after the conclusion of Dragon Age: Origins. The player takes on the role of a Grey Warden commander, who is either an imported character from Origins or a new Warden from Orlais. The Orlesian Warden is treated differently because of the history between Orlais and Ferelden—and because an imported Warden will be renowned to begin with, having killed an archdemon almost single-handedly in Origins."

Aka There are Two Wardens in Dragon age 1.

Ahhh.  I see,

Having never played an Orlesian Warden, I did not know the entrie backstory.  I kind of thought the Orlesian Warden did NOT kill the AD, since he or she was talking over for the dead one who did.

Guess I got that wrong.

However, that Warden doesn't exist for me.  My Warden did kill the AD.  He also did the DR with Morrigan, and is therefore very much alive.

While that understandable the fact is they do have a fail safe warden if you did die in DA:O.

[TJPags]

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

[thenemesis77]

What we all need to see is that they are already working on the story for DA3 and have been and any DLC that DA2 might have leading to DA3. I can't wait for it. The ansuwer to where both heros are will be put before us, IMO. You have a world on the brink of world war and these are the two they are in search of. A outcome of them will be layed before us. That is one thing I can almost be certain of.

[_000Darkstar]

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

Wrong. They can bring back the Orlesian Warden Commander of Amaranthine. US is still honored.

[Rehwyn]

Heh, I did think of one big thing my Warden and Champion might... disagree... about.

Warden: Sup, Hawke? Someone mentioned something about an amulet, Sundermount, some ritual, a dragon...
Champion: Oh.. yeah that. I had to bring some old woman named Flemeth back in case she died at some appointment to pay a debt.
Warden: ...yeeeeaaaah. I kinda killed her. Thanks for that.
Champion:...oh.

[AlexXIV]

We get to play Hawke in DA3. I am pretty sure DA2 is more or less the 'Hawke Origin'. For once the Seekers are looking for Hawke, and Cassandra thinks the Champion is the only one who can prevent the things to get worse. Also Hawke is a predefined character like Shepard, so I take he/she makes a better protagonist than the Warden for DA3. Also Hawke is not the most important person of Thedas yet, but probably becoming it. And just take everything Flemeth said. Hurdled into the chaos you fight, and shape the world before you. So Hawke is not done in the least. Kirkwall was just the beginning.

[thenemesis77]

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

[Nialos]

But Hawke has shaped the world, AlexXIV. Indirectly, but still shaped it. As said by a certain witch, change was coming - and come it did.

[AlexXIV]

They are not specifically looking for the Warden. At least not saying it. They interrogate Varric to find the Champion though. The Warden is also gone like the Champion, but they are looking for the Champion.

[TJPags]

_000Darkstar wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

Wrong. They can bring back the Orlesian Warden Commander of Amaranthine. US is still honored.

Doing that invalidates the DR, since anyone who did the DR didn't need to have an Orlesian Warden Commander of Amaranthine.

Basic point I'm trying to make is, you choose at the end of DAO to have your Warden die, or not. 

If you chose to have that Warden die, using the "Hero of Ferelden" Warden in a later game invalidates that choice.

If you chose not to have them die, using a warden who took over after the "Hero of Ferelden" died killing the AD invalidates that choice.

Bioware has said that neither ending is canon.  So, IMO, all they can do is make a brand new Warden, if they choose to use a Warden in future games.  Otherwise, they'd be changing what they said.  Which, I suppose, they could do - they ignored a possible choice to kill Leliana, after all - but it would be rather...not nice.

[_000Darkstar]

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

It's NOT the DAO Warden if you did US. If you did the US ending then it would the Orlesian Warden Commander from Awakening. Just because you didn't buy and play it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[thenemesis77]

oh and it talks of the god baby with the warden, short answer, the man is alive. Unless BioWare lied in a book they sold me, well then I can't trust their words.

[AlexXIV]

Nialos wrote...

But Hawke has shaped the world, AlexXIV. Indirectly, but still shaped it. As said by a certain witch, change was coming - and come it did.

The Champion has done nothing yet. Well not much compared to the Warden for example. Hawke was involved with Anders, but so was the Warden. They both are reason Anders and Justice joined and could do what they did. But I think Hawke is destined for greater things even. Maybe become ruler of all of Thedas or lead one great army into war. There is more to come I am sure.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 16 mars 2011 - 01:25 .

[_000Darkstar]

TJPags wrote...

_000Darkstar wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

Wrong. They can bring back the Orlesian Warden Commander of Amaranthine. US is still honored.

Doing that invalidates the DR, since anyone who did the DR didn't need to have an Orlesian Warden Commander of Amaranthine.

Basic point I'm trying to make is, you choose at the end of DAO to have your Warden die, or not. 

If you chose to have that Warden die, using the "Hero of Ferelden" Warden in a later game invalidates that choice.

If you chose not to have them die, using a warden who took over after the "Hero of Ferelden" died killing the AD invalidates that choice.

Bioware has said that neither ending is canon.  So, IMO, all they can do is make a brand new Warden, if they choose to use a Warden in future games.  Otherwise, they'd be changing what they said.  Which, I suppose, they could do - they ignored a possible choice to kill Leliana, after all - but it would be rather...not nice.

Good god... This is NOT hard.

- If you did the Dark Ritual, they are talking about the DAO Warden at the end of DA2.
- If you did the US, they are talking about the Orlesian Warden Commander.

No one is being invalidated.

[thenemesis77]

Ok, guys/gals. The Warden is dead, just hope that helps you sleep better.

[TJPags]

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

So the Warden can't come back, cause you say so? Please take it down a notch or two. I know you want to be some new pc in every game but this game is pulling in things closer.

No, not at all.

But the Warden could have died killing the AD.  How can that Warden now be doing anything?  Answer - can't.  BIoware has said repeatedly that there is no canon, and has repatedly said the DR is not canon, and that the OGB is not canon.

So what I am saying is that unless Bioware wants to stand up and announce "yea, ha ha, all you people who did the US are idiots, you're Warden didn't die, you're Warden actually had sex with Morrigan (or had Alistair/Loghaion do it) and created a reincarnated Old God, whether you like it or not" well, they can't bring back the Warden.

Get it now? 

Ok, you must be in the know of all things, sorry but i'am not down witht the"Get it now crowd."

As I have said, this is just IMO and thats all it is. They will do what they feel is best for the story and that I think has been set long before DAO or DA2 was put out. We will just have to wait and see, not trying to make you mad, just giving what I think might  happen, nothing more.

I'm not mad.  I'm just tired of reading about how people want their Wardens back, when Dioware has said that story is over, and Bioware has also said that the US remains a viable option for DAO Wardens, which means they cannot come back.

They will indeed do what they think best.  However, to make the DAO Warden a main character in any subsequent game invalidates the US ending, which they said they would not do.  So, they'll have a choice to make.  Honor that, or decide to change it.

I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

They don't say they are looking for the Warden.  They say they are looking for Hawke, who vanished just like the Warden did.  The Warden vanishes in the epilogues of almost every game (even though Bioware has said they don't treat all epilogue slides as fact).  IMO, Cassandra is making a comparison, nothing more.

[AlexXIV]

thenemesis77 wrote...

Ok, guys/gals. The Warden is dead, just hope that helps you sleep better.

Not in my playthrough.

[Dr. wonderful]

AlexXIV wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

Ok, guys/gals. The Warden is dead, just hope that helps you sleep better.

Not in my playthrough.

Me neither.

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He still around.

[LioTheAwesome]

Hmm, The Warden & Hawke....
For me that would be a bad thing... very bad
Only cause the two would not get along, lol.
My warden is a cool guy, My hawke not nice at all, very serious though.
Plus their choices differ a lot.
I mean it would be nice to see the two again and or cross paths in future games or something, but wouldn't happen, sadly.

[VettoRyouzou]

_000Darkstar wrote...

Good god... This is NOT hard.

- If you did the Dark Ritual, they are talking about the DAO Warden at the end of DA2.
- If you did the US, they are talking about the Orlesian Warden Commander.

No one is being invalidated.

Funny enough I did nether of these I let Loghain throw himself in the dragon was like "Ok buddy time to die -punts into dragon".

[Nialos]

AlexXIV wrote...

Nialos wrote...

But Hawke has shaped the world, AlexXIV. Indirectly, but still shaped it. As said by a certain witch, change was coming - and come it did.

The Champion has done nothing yet. Well not much, compared to the Warden for example. Hawke was involved with Anders, but so was the Warden. They both are reason Anders and Justice joined and could do what they did. But I think Hawke is destined for greater things even. Maybe become ruler of all of Thedas or lead one great army of into war. There is more to come I am sure.

I'm sure there's more to his story, but I do think Hawke is a 'shaper of the world' for a different reason. The Warden may have had a hand in pretty much every jar there is, but it's Hawke who really means something to the world right now.

If you sided with the Mages, Hawke is a symbol that they can fight back - a rallying cry for the downtrodden. The Champion also was responsible for the increased paranoia in Meredith (the Lyrium Idol Blade), which did result in the Templars cracking down on the Mages, lighting the embers of resistance.  Then his/her choice is what gives a side a 'dominant' power vibe; a hero to boost morale.

[thenemesis77]

I just have to say the Warden didn't die in the US, KIng Alaistar makes that very clear and that was in year seven..oh and I played with out the import of DAO or any of the others and also BioWare said they would have a cannon for DAO that imports inot DA2, if you don't use a import character and guess what..I didn't and guess what, the Warden was still alive but sitll is gone at the end of the game, just like Hawke.

[AlexXIV]

Bringing the Warden back would be difficult. There are 3 different races, and they had their art style change. Also the Warden didn't have a Voice Over. My canon warden is for example a dalish female. There is no way they could make her like she looked like in Origins. I think we may hear more about the Warden and maybe about how the story ends with Morrigan, etc., but we probably won't get to meet our Warden in person.

[VettoRyouzou]

AlexXIV wrote...

Bringing the Warden back would be difficult. There are 3 different races, and they had their art style change. Also the Warden didn't have a Voice Over. My canon warden is for example a dalish female. There is no way they could make her like she looked like in Origins. I think we may hear more about the Warden and maybe about how the story ends with Morrigan, etc., but we probably won't get to meet our Warden in person.

That not true Zevran looked very close to what he did in DA:O I'm starting to think Elves looks are effected by the land there from or perhaps how much contact they have with humans. But it defiantly shown not all elves in DA:2 lack a nose bridge.

[TJPags]

thenemesis77 wrote...

I just have to say the Warden didn't die in the US, KIng Alaistar makes that very clear and that was in year seven..oh and I played with out the import of DAO or any of the others and also BioWare said they would have a cannon for DAO that imports inot DA2, if you don't use a import character and guess what..I didn't and guess what, the Warden was still alive but sitll is gone at the end of the game, just like Hawke.

King Alistair?  Who's that?

In my games, there's this drunk named Alistair in the Hanged Man who claims he was once a Grey Warden . .and even a Prince of Ferelden.

Nobody believes him, though.  What with the Hero of Ferelden being Prince Consort to Queen Anora and all.