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[Rasputin]

I played DA:A with my warden from DA:O .... I think in one of my playthroughs he didnt take Morrigan up on her offer and then killed the AD yet went on to play in DA:A (somehow?) and now in DA2 I have people saying the Warden sacrificed himself to kill the AD and also Howe saying the Warden Commander (same person) was alive or some such...

Anyway - I would have chosen option D, let both Allistair live and Warden live, no ritual, the 3rd Warden got the killing blow... somehow.

[Kingthlayer]

I personally can't see the Warden in DA3 or any other new Dragon Age games. The very fact that he can be dead in many peoples games, you can't import a dead person into a further game. My main Hawke character imported a save from just DA:O with a dead Warden. So a Hawke+Warden or a Hawke vs Warden story in DA3 would be completely pointless. And I have to believe BioWare knows this.

For DA3 I see Cassandra as the new player character. Her story is relatively new so it's not like we're taking control of a character with an already defined personality. Leliana as a companion in DA3 would be quite awesome as well.

[AlexXIV]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Bringing the Warden back would be difficult. There are 3 different races, and they had their art style change. Also the Warden didn't have a Voice Over. My canon warden is for example a dalish female. There is no way they could make her like she looked like in Origins. I think we may hear more about the Warden and maybe about how the story ends with Morrigan, etc., but we probably won't get to meet our Warden in person.

That not true Zevran looked very close to what he did in DA:O I'm starting to think Elves looks are effected by the land there from or perhaps how much contact they have with humans. But it defiantly shown not all elves in DA:2 lack a nose bridge.

Zevran had a fixed look. They knew how he looked in Origins. They don't know what my warden looked like. And I don't think they can use the face data of Origins to have the game automatically create a proper looking elf in the new art style. Also I doubht my Warden's face info was imported to DA2.

[_000Darkstar]

thenemesis77 wrote...

I just have to say the Warden didn't die in the US, KIng Alaistar makes that very clear and that was in year seven..oh and I played with out the import of DAO or any of the others and also BioWare said they would have a cannon for DAO that imports inot DA2, if you don't use a import character and guess what..I didn't and guess what, the Warden was still alive but sitll is gone at the end of the game, just like Hawke.

It's not a canon. You chose the default ending. There's a difference. In the DA2 Character creator there are three DAO endings to choose from.

[VettoRyouzou]

AlexXIV wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Bringing the Warden back would be difficult. There are 3 different races, and they had their art style change. Also the Warden didn't have a Voice Over. My canon warden is for example a dalish female. There is no way they could make her like she looked like in Origins. I think we may hear more about the Warden and maybe about how the story ends with Morrigan, etc., but we probably won't get to meet our Warden in person.

That not true Zevran looked very close to what he did in DA:O I'm starting to think Elves looks are effected by the land there from or perhaps how much contact they have with humans. But it defiantly shown not all elves in DA:2 lack a nose bridge.

Zevran had a fixed look. They knew how he looked in Origins. They don't know what my warden looked like. And I don't think they can use the face data of Origins to have the game automatically create a proper looking elf in the new art style. Also I doubht my Warden's face info was imported to DA2.

No one can truly say at this point, I was just confronting any worry they turn an elf warden into the skinny no bridge freak of elves we see now.

[AlexXIV]

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I personally can't see the Warden in DA3 or any other new Dragon Age games. The very fact that he can be dead in many peoples games, you can't import a dead person into a further game. My main Hawke character imported a save from just DA:O with a dead Warden. So a Hawke+Warden or a Hawke vs Warden story in DA3 would be completely pointless. And I have to believe BioWare knows this.

For DA3 I see Cassandra as the new player character. Her story is relatively new so it's not like we're taking control of a character with an already defined personality. Leliana as a companion in DA3 would be quite awesome as well.

No, not likely. If they make a female human predefined player character some fans will unleash hell on this forum. Not to mention that she could not be mage.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 16 mars 2011 - 01:38 .

[erilben]

thenemesis77 wrote...



I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

David Gaider said all that means there's more than one reason why the Warden is "gone" with one the possible reasons is the Warden is "gone" because they died killing the archdemon. And so that means there is no connection between the Champion and the Warden being both gone.

[Clonedzero]

they should bring back the warden for the opening cutscene where the warden and hawke are doing something in the opening and get attacked, warden dies and hawke has to continue on without the warden after they met up.

the warden is too vague and varied to be able to be written as a significant role in future games. just wont work. hawke however is a specific character and could easily return to play a significant role.

killing the warden in a final canon way would close off alot of loose ties that remain. because if they dont just flat out kill the damn warden, then theres always gonna be "what about my warden?!"

[thenemesis77]

I love to debate this kind of stuff but all we can say is we really don't know what road they will take. I think DA2 ended with alot of more WTF questions and gave hope for those that like the Warden and Hawke.

[Kingthlayer]

AlexXIV wrote...

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I personally can't see the Warden in DA3 or any other new Dragon Age games. The very fact that he can be dead in many peoples games, you can't import a dead person into a further game. My main Hawke character imported a save from just DA:O with a dead Warden. So a Hawke+Warden or a Hawke vs Warden story in DA3 would be completely pointless. And I have to believe BioWare knows this.

For DA3 I see Cassandra as the new player character. Her story is relatively new so it's not like we're taking control of a character with an already defined personality. Leliana as a companion in DA3 would be quite awesome as well.

No, not likely. If they make a female human predefined player character some fans will unleash hell on this forum. Not to mention that she could not be mage.

I didn't even think that part, but it's no worse than people thinking the Warden can come back.

[thenemesis77]

erilben wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...



I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

David Gaider said all that means there's more than one reason why the Warden is "gone" with one the possible reasons is the Warden is "gone" because they died killing the archdemon. And so that means there is no connection between the Champion and the Warden being both gone.

If that be the cause then David should not of put "just like the Warden..gone" it gets people that like the Warden hopes up for his/her return and what makes it so full of crap is that if anyone knew he/she was dead would be Leliana, now why would she have been looking for him/her if they were dead?   Now if someone says being gone=dead..thats just silly. Mkaes me think if Hawke is gone, hes dead.

Modifié par thenemesis77, 16 mars 2011 - 01:54 .

[AlexXIV]

No I think Hawke could go on some quest to follow the trail of the Warden, but probably only find the Warden dead or some sort of proof of the Warden's death. There are not many options for Wardens. They go to the Deep Roads and die.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 16 mars 2011 - 01:56 .

[errant_knight]

Why do people get their knickers in such a knot over harmless speculation? If people want to indulge, what's the bloody harm? Let them have their fun.

The fact is, they'll do anything they think will make a good story, regardless of precedent, so we have no way of knowing what might or might not happen.

Modifié par errant_knight, 16 mars 2011 - 02:02 .

[Clonedzero]

oh, maybe cassandra tracks down hawke and convinces her to help her find the warden (or the french one lol) who went into the deep roads to find something to help stop the war. finding the warden dead in front of the lair of the next oldgod /arch demon

go all Watchmen with it, with the warden deciding to wake up the next archdemon himself to cause another blight to unite the world against a common enemy again.

[XX-Pyro]

I assumed they were talking about the Orlesian Warden if your Origins Warden was killed. Warden doesn't always refer to the Hero of Ferelden.

[Dante Angelo]

As much as I want my Warden back I don't think it's gonna happen.I still hold a strong belief that Flemeth kidnapped the Warden & Hawke. Actually something just occured to me what if Morrigan kidnapped the warden & Flemeth kidnapped Hawke. Although I don't think that happened. It would be cool though

[PureGold_Au]

Well.. I don't think there will be a Dragon age 3, but there will be a Dragon Age MMO which will be Dragon Age 3-12 , it will be set about 200 years in the future and have nothing to to with either of the protaganists of the first to games. (It's a Kotor refrence)

[arathor_87]

TJPags wrote...

I have to say, I'm personally getting tired of all the Hawke + Warden = awesomeness for DA3 thinking.

The Warden could be dead. The Warden could have vanished into an Eluvian. There could be no OGB. The Warden has no voice.

Hawke could have freed the mages. Hawke could have killed all the mages and then become the Vicount of Kirkwall. Hawke got tired of the BS and left.

Unless Bioware wants to do complete 180 on their motto of "there is no canon", then this can't happen. Even if Hawke were to come back, Warden can't.

Thats not true. I think there was a reason why you could play as an orlesian warden in The Awakening if your DA:O warden did the ultimate sacrifice. Since Orlais most likely will plat a big part in DA3 I think there is a connection. 

And If the warden fell into the Eluvian, maybe Merrills eluvian mirror will take part in DA3 and summon him in some way?

And maybe DA2 only had a voiced PC so Hawke could be used as a companion in DA3? Only becaused DA2 had a voiced PC it doesnt mean that DA3 needs to have it.

If Bioware in someway ties the first two games togheter in the third it will be awesome and answer so many questions. Good storys are made this way, it connetcs previous storys.

If we get a new game without that has nothing to do with The Warden or Hawke I wont buy it. And this becuase of if Bioware keeps changing to much they wont deliver in the end since its to much for people to think about. What did  happen here? And there?

Sometimes you have to think outside of the box even if it maybe won't turn out that way. There are solutions for everything! I want the warden as PC in DA3 and Hawke as a companion, I like them both (even if I like the warden more).

Cheers!

Modifié par arathor_87, 17 mars 2011 - 04:15 .

[errant_knight]

arathor_87 wrote...

Sometimes you have to think outside of the box even if it maybe won't turn out that way. There are solutions for everything! I want the warden as PC in DA3 and Hawke as a companion, I like them both (even if I like the warden more).

Cheers!

This is true. If they want to do something they will, and will find a workable way to do it. If they don't, they won't. Bioware has a whole team of clever writers whose job it is to figure out how to do things. It just depends on the story they have in mind.

[darth_hel]

thenemesis77 wrote...

erilben wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...



I have to keep going back to each end of DA2 and them saying....."gone...just like the Warden. now why would they look for the Warden if he did the US......they wouldn't,.. and to me that means they kept him/her alive and for a reason, just like Hawke. Untill David or anyone else says The Warden is Dead......you can't rule them out.  I have the  Collectors edttion of DA2 guide and they say at the end of the book about how "the Warden and Hawke are no where to be found, if he did the US.....they would not have said that, they would have known he/she was killed giving their lives, I know it's hard to hear that but the warden is alive. Hell some think the Divine had somthing to do with them being gone and is hinted to in the book.

David Gaider said all that means there's more than one reason why the Warden is "gone" with one the possible reasons is the Warden is "gone" because they died killing the archdemon. And so that means there is no connection between the Champion and the Warden being both gone.

If that be the cause then David should not of put "just like the Warden..gone" it gets people that like the Warden hopes up for his/her return and what makes it so full of crap is that if anyone knew he/she was dead would be Leliana, now why would she have been looking for him/her if they were dead?   Now if someone says being gone=dead..thats just silly. Mkaes me think if Hawke is gone, hes dead.

I took that quote about them being gone as basically a sign of exasperation and almost a hopelessness. The only people the seekers can think of that can solve this problem are out of their reach....gone. Personally, I'm hoping for the hero of DA3 to be an Old God Baby, if Morrigan could figure out a different way to have a child with an Old God soul then no one's choice has to be invalidated.

[Boradam]

Warden and Hawke: Golden City

That's my way of thinking, they be in da city pimping themselves out with the Fade.

[stuboy52]

i still think that DA2 was a prologue to further actions the be done by hawke i hope they keep him which is most likely as he/she is already well developed and if ME has show anything having a continuing main protagonist is awesome as its your character how you have choosen to develop them

regardless of what happens i think we all know the bioware writers will deliver as the always do.

[Zalitara]

Bioware is going to have to give some answers soon on weather there is a canon story or not. I thought there wasn't but from the ending of DA2 it's pretty obvious that they were looking for The Hero of Ferelden or the Orlais Warden Commander BEFORE they went to look for The Champion as a last way out. Why mention The Warden at all if he/she doesn't mean anything anymore? Would be the most cruel bait and switch in the history of time.

[da0Xeffect2]

I doubt the Warden will return but probably be referred to much more directly like someone saw him/her, went by the burial site, or maybe he/she consults Hawke from the dead. As great as it would be to have them as companions, it would be extremely difficult to do. So many variables to account for. It's pretty obvious the warden people mention, is "the" Warden" not "a" Warden especially if the warden survived the AD.

[Swords Edge]

I'll say what I've said many a time: God Child! - (Morrigan's Arch deamon baby) I feel the staff was given the option to gap the years between Origins and bringing a "Baulders Gate" inspired God Child into the story despite it only being an option in DAO, witch hunt added to the fact there going to go further with that version of the story. Flemeth is gonna be an ongoing manipulator of the DA universe and she sent Morrigan with the Warden for one main purpose. It'll all eventually lead up to that kid i have no doubt. As for the Warden/Hawke dissaperance, it just reminds me of a KOTOR revan deal. Disappearing to fight some uknown great threat