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[Bigdawg13]

I'm on the PS3 and noticed the "bug" last night during the end of Act II. I had avoided Isabela when I found out about this bug, but near the end it forces her into your party. After she bails with the book, I realized I still had her buff. I had it all through the end of Act 2 and still at the beginning of Act 3.

After speaking to her in the Hanged Man, i was able to put her back into my party. I saved it, reloaded it, and removed her. The buff is now gone.

Does the fact that the buff is no longer showing up, indicative that the bug is gone? Or is my attack speed reduced and I'm doomed even though the buff is no longer showing up. There is no way I'm going to save the game with her in the group every time. Sometimes you don't have access to a group change and you need to save. But by bringing her in, saving, loading, and removing her, the buff appears to be gone. I fought some night skirmishes and didn't notice any slow down in the animation, and have no intention of grouping with her again on this play through.

I guess if the bug gets really bad I'll start over and just make sure I'm a total jerk to Isabela and Sebastian.

What really bothers me, is there is no way to know if Bioware is making efforts to fix this on for console owners.

[RubiconI7]

Bigdawg13 wrote...

I'm on the PS3 and noticed the "bug" last night during the end of Act II. I had avoided Isabela when I found out about this bug, but near the end it forces her into your party. After she bails with the book, I realized I still had her buff. I had it all through the end of Act 2 and still at the beginning of Act 3.

After speaking to her in the Hanged Man, i was able to put her back into my party. I saved it, reloaded it, and removed her. The buff is now gone.

Does the fact that the buff is no longer showing up, indicative that the bug is gone? Or is my attack speed reduced and I'm doomed even though the buff is no longer showing up. There is no way I'm going to save the game with her in the group every time. Sometimes you don't have access to a group change and you need to save. But by bringing her in, saving, loading, and removing her, the buff appears to be gone. I fought some night skirmishes and didn't notice any slow down in the animation, and have no intention of grouping with her again on this play through.

I guess if the bug gets really bad I'll start over and just make sure I'm a total jerk to Isabela and Sebastian.

What really bothers me, is there is no way to know if Bioware is making efforts to fix this on for console owners.

Even if you don't see it anymore, the debuff is still present. You just have not had a -35% yet...

http://social.biowar...1/index/6616837

Modifié par RubiconI7, 19 mars 2011 - 05:50 .

[Balic the Black]

How do you check to see what your attack speed actually is? I don't see that anywhere on my stats.

[Joe_8998]

I am experiencing this issue too on the 360. This really sucks.

Modifié par Joe_8998, 18 mars 2011 - 08:36 .

[manalili]

At one point I was "SURE" it was the Arcane Barrier skill just slowing my character to a crawl, so I disable the tactic and I'm still throwing grenades in the air like it was on the moon. This needs to get patched asap, it's becoming impossible to finish any battles on hard.

[UKillMeLongTime]

what if you load an autosave ?
I def have the glitch and the final quest was so slow for me I blamed it on graphic lag but it was isab's stacked buff
She had been in and out so often ( she likes that though, koff ) it seems to have stacked over and over.

[RedBrigade]

This bug makes me want to stab my eyes out.
Surely there must be a way to fix it by editing savegames?

Modifié par RedBrigade, 19 mars 2011 - 12:42 .

[GodLikeDevil]

Ok, so since this bug screws over gameplay, I guess I will need to make Isabella and Sebastian rivals then.

Can you have a rival romance with Isabella?

[Zhijn]

Weird, i just befriended Isabella around 2 hours ago (thumbs up thing), and i still havnt notice anything with my 2h warrior. Still 99% attack rating, still auto attack at normal speed and destroys everything with Haste!.

Does the bug only appear if its both of em on friend?. Either way, nothing to report yet.

On PC if that matters.

[We Tigers]

You have got to be kidding me. I'm a bit unclear here; does this bug require you to have BOTH Isabela and Sebastian? I haven't downloaded him yet, so...am I safe? Or am I doomed to a sloooooooow death now that I have her friendship?

[manalili]

Just to catch up the people who aren't inclined to read the last 4 pages:

The bug happens when you load a game without Isabella or Sebastian in your party.
To trigger the bug, either of them, after getting friend status must have been in your party at least once.

The bug is that the game thinks their buffs for hawke are still on while they are out of the party. Once the game loads, it subtracts that buff from hawke, even though it wasn't on in the first place (because they are not in your party when you loaded the game).

Now if you load the game while they are currently in the party, it will not subtract the buff, hence you won't get slowed down.

There is currently no solution, just a prevention method. Don't friend them in the first place, or always have them in your party when you save (meaning no saving in Hawke Estate).

[We Tigers]

Uggggggh. This is the worst. I love this game, but I can't believe I paid $60 for such a piece of broken trash.

[Atmosfear3]

So far I've had to temp fix my Hawke's attack speed just about every hour or so to avoid going into the negatives too far.

[HTTP 404]

does this only affect PC? sorry if this was answered already

[SupidSeep]

Ok, this explains the -10 resist in my current playthrough.

[TallBearNC]

Sabresandiego wrote...

If you get the friendship passives from Isabella or Sebastian and group with these companions, they slowly destroy Hawke by lowering damage resistance and attack speed until you are slow as molasses and frail.

Had both on my 2nd playthrough with their passive friend ablilities. I never saw any slowdowns or damage reductions.

[TallBearNC]

Btw, you can use GFF 4.0 to edit your save file, if you get hit by that modifier bug.

If the bug affects your BASE speed/dmg, you can reset it. If the bug is just "modified" dmg/speed, you can adjust that also in GFF 4.0.

[irvm89]

I was wondering why my 2h Warrior was taking far more damage than Varric, Merrill, and Anders. Enemies started hitting like I was naked out of nowhere in the middle of Act 2 and others would obliterate half my health in a single attack. I just loaded up my game to find I had a -10% Damage Resistance. Both Sebastian and Isabella's abilities showed up next to Summon Mabari as well. I don't notice any decreased Attack Speed but that'll probably catch up if I keep playing. What a disappointment since I just got to Act 3. I guess I'll just have to restart the game and begin rivalries with both of them.

[Icy Magebane]

HTTP 404 wrote...

does this only affect PC? sorry if this was answered already

I think it's all platforms.  Happened to me with Isabela on 360.

[BloodyRaw]

 First thank you to all the gamers out there helping others to not suffer this problem or to work around it.

  After about 4 hours of beta testing this game today without pay to find out the core issue regarding "thumbs up", I have found an answer.

   I had a save on Act 1 right before Isabella became my friend (5 minutes before) so I used that to do all my testing. After befriending her I recieved the "thumbs up" bonus as expected so I proceeded to the next steps.

1. Went to Merrills house and switched isabella out of my party. Saved then reloaded to find out I did not have the bug. Then I went to hawkes house checked to see that I did not have her bug, reloaded the autosave (entering the house) and still did not recieve this bug.

 2.  Reloaded Merrills house save (still no thumbs up and she is not in the party) put Isabella back in the party (thumbs up is in abilites screen) then went to hawkes house. Checked status within the house and the thumbs up was still there. So upon exiting the house I put Isabella back in the party went to merrills house, switched Isabella back out, saved then reloaded the save. Save reloaded isabella is not in the party no bug.

3. Repeated all steps in step 2 until "then went to hawkes house". Checked status again and yes isabella thumbs up is there, saved then reloaded the save. Isabella thumbs up is still there. Went back to merrils house with isabella still in party, switched her out then saved and reloaded. Thumbs up bug is there.

4. What caused the bug to start? Reloading a save while Isabella's thumbs up is active inside hawkes residence? Really now ok beta tester lets test this out without pay.

5. Misson "Birthright" in darktown outside anders clinic after step "2". Isabella is in party, saved and then reloaded switched her out saved in then reloaded and no bug. Remember this is right after step 2 so I have not produced the bug yet.

6. Go inside the mission "birthright" (the cellar) with isabella in the party (with no party bug yet) it autosaves. Reload the auto save within the mission, leave mission the go back to darktown next to anders clinic, switch out isabella then save. Reload save (isabella is not in party) and bam thumbs up is there. So what produced the bug? Reloading the autosave inside the mission did it.

7. Did it really? back to step "5". Outside outside anders clinic. Saved with Isabella in the party, reloaded save then switched her out. Saved again then reloaded with no thumbs up bug. Went inside the mission "birthright" without isabella in the party and it auto saves. Reload the auto save checked the ability screen and NO Thumbs up BUG. Left mission back to darktown, saved again reladed save still no bug with this woman not in the party.

8. Ok beta tester you are pretty good...how about you complete the mission with isabella in the party (start of step 5 have not produced bug). Now this misson at the end of it basically forces you to go to the hawkes estate to confront you're uncle. Ok sounds like a plan....completed misson after the convo in hawkes house I check the abilites screen to see thumbs up. Went to merrills house switched isabella out, saved then reloaded...no thumbs up bug.

9. But how?? Was it because you did not save or reload that save within a mission or hawkes place? Yes. Ok what if you went to the wonded coast with isabella in the party, saved, reloaded and went to the docks at day switched her out and reloaded. Would you get the bug then? Yes. Why?

10. If you Reload any save that is inside a mission, hawks resdience, Kirkwall at night or outside the city (sundermount wounded coast) you will recieve the bug with isabella in your party. You can save with her in you're party and not recieve the bug anywhere in kirkwall during the day, merrill and fenris house, darktown. I tested this to death do us part...like you know a free beta tester.

11. Isabella is not in my party right now after I completed the birthright mission. I have no thumbs up bug either after having multiple reloads after saving with her not in the party. You can save AnyWhere at anytime "without" her in the party and not recieve this bug.

Please post this on the PC/360 fourms because I cannot post there (ps3 baby). Have a great and wonderful night!! Hope you enjoyed the show.:devil:

Modifié par BloodyRaw, 19 mars 2011 - 06:00 .

[manalili]

Good to know BloodyRaw, let's hope BW actually uses that info to fix the bug if they haven't figured it out by now.

[zeypher]

btw some one made a a fix that will have to prevent this bug here check it out http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=2299

this will help prevent it from occuring for the time being.

[Siven80]

I only got the slow speed bug after i had BOTH Isabela and Sebs frienship/rivalry maxed and locked, even if they werent in the party.

[hawat333]

I only experienced this with Sebastian, but indeed it was slower. Thankfully, I got the +35% attack speed rune so it wasn't that much of a problem.