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Heather Cline wrote...

Mark how do you get this save editor to work on a xbox save?

You need to extract the save - need a USB stick and some extraction software - Modio works fine.  Extract, save on your computer (maked a back up just in case) open in editor, make change and Rehash/resign in modio before saving back to the usb.
There are youtube videos look under dragon age 2 xbox mod and you should find some, otherwise let me know and I'll give you a full guide.

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Nimpe wrote...

I 100 percented Isabella in friendship and I'm not slow or weak at all. Must have more variables to this, or a chance.

Ps3 version by the way.

I'm the same as you, plus I bring her with me whenever possible since the problem I have with my warrior make me have to switch to her sometimes. My warrior has 71str 31sta and 31cons plus the armor with 395 armor and 167 attack plus 54 health and all of the matching gloves boots and helmet which gives a lot of bonus each , I got a two hand greatsword with 45 physical damage (74 per sec) +167 attack +11% physical damage. Anyway... I got all that but still, my warrior strikes are just as weak then when I started the game, enemies take just as long to beat if not more, if you're not careful all the time some will drop you in a bit. Some fights even get really annoying when you're fighting an enemy with a health bar even shorter then mine but my strikes doesn't even scratch his health, it's like some fights were made to take long, either that or for every level you up the enemy level five times higher.

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Might be a temporary fix until Bioware fixes it,
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=2299

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Ohhh now it all makes sense. And this is supposed to be my Isabela playthrough. :(

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Whats the change you must do in that file?=)

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I tested the file from the Nexus and it seems to have helped. I still seem to move slow but at least I am doing damage now. Hopfully Bioware fixes this soon. Just drop it in your character override folder.

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I'm getting some annoying bug with my game. Whenever I bring Fenris to my group, my life bar and stamina bar gets shortened by less than half so as the other party members as well, and his life or should I say health bar and stamina bar gets three times higher. If I bring Anders or Merril than is the stamina bar that gets shortened and the same thing happens, their stamina bar gets three times higher. Depending of who I bring I get screwed with health and stamina, plus they suck the health and stamina from the others too and theirs get ridiculously long. Is there anyone with the same problem?

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Alex475 wrote...

I'm getting some annoying bug with my game. Whenever I bring Fenris to my group, my life bar and stamina bar gets shortened by less than half so as the other party members as well, and his life or should I say health bar and stamina bar gets three times higher. If I bring Anders or Merril than is the stamina bar that gets shortened and the same thing happens, their stamina bar gets three times higher. Depending of who I bring I get screwed with health and stamina, plus they suck the health and stamina from the others too and theirs get ridiculously long. Is there anyone with the same problem?


It doesn't actually lower their health or stamina :). When you bring in a party member with heavy con it shows them having the biggest bar thus shortening "the look" of your other bars but it does not really have any effect.

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Darkshore wrote...

Alex475 wrote...

I'm getting some annoying bug with my game. Whenever I bring Fenris to my group, my life bar and stamina bar gets shortened by less than half so as the other party members as well, and his life or should I say health bar and stamina bar gets three times higher. If I bring Anders or Merril than is the stamina bar that gets shortened and the same thing happens, their stamina bar gets three times higher. Depending of who I bring I get screwed with health and stamina, plus they suck the health and stamina from the others too and theirs get ridiculously long. Is there anyone with the same problem?


It doesn't actually lower their health or stamina :). When you bring in a party member with heavy con it shows them having the biggest bar thus shortening "the look" of your other bars but it does not really have any effect.


That because Fenris got 2x as much health as you have (therefore the game halves your HP bar).
IE highest health/stamina charater is 100% bar sized and everyone elses heath is show as a % of this.

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So here's a weird wrinkle. I had the bug, so I went back to a save before I had Isabella's friendship bonus to regroup. I'm thus at the beginning of Act 2. If I add her to the party, I don't have the thumbs-up bonus.

Then, I replace her with Varric and do some quests. Still no thumbs-up. I go to the Hanged Man without her in the party, and talk to her twice, to complete the Talk to Isabela and Questioning Beliefs quests. The 20-30 friendship gained from those makes her my friend enough to earn her bonus. However, she's not in the party yet, and hasn't been in the party yet as a friend...and the thumbs-up is there immediately after completing the conversations! The bug appears to have activated without even saving or bringing her into the party.

So...how do we explain that? This is on 360.

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We Tigers wrote...

So here's a weird wrinkle. I had the bug, so I went back to a save before I had Isabella's friendship bonus to regroup. I'm thus at the beginning of Act 2. If I add her to the party, I don't have the thumbs-up bonus.

Then, I replace her with Varric and do some quests. Still no thumbs-up. I go to the Hanged Man without her in the party, and talk to her twice, to complete the Talk to Isabela and Questioning Beliefs quests. The 20-30 friendship gained from those makes her my friend enough to earn her bonus. However, she's not in the party yet, and hasn't been in the party yet as a friend...and the thumbs-up is there immediately after completing the conversations! The bug appears to have activated without even saving or bringing her into the party.

So...how do we explain that? This is on 360.


I can confirm the same thing happened to me Tigers just about 10 minutes ago, but on PC.  This is my second playthrough with a a DW rogue -- I shelved my first guy because of the bug.  I have turned autosave off and save only at Merrill's house.  I did NOT take Isabela into the Deep Roads either.  Basically, I'm following the "rules" that Bloodyraw laid forth religiously though I am still trying to pursue a romance with Bela.  Basically her quests were the first I tackled in Act 2.  After getting the her friendship points at the Hanged Man (and without EVER putting her in my party in Act 2) I get the Thumbs Up bonus.

Can someone explain this?  

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"Sigh" Guess this is what happens when you release a game abit too fast. Hope the temp fix can alleviate this rather obvious bug until an actual fix is released.

Of course trying to fix the issue with the savegame editor might cause problems with Bioware's, hopefully, soon to be released fix.
I for one won't be playing the game anymore until this problem is fixed, don't want to waste my time either way.

Modifié par Korhiann, 23 mars 2011 - 12:38 .


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At this point, I've decided to just ignore Isabela for this playthrough. I tried becoming "rivals," but honestly, I just don't like acting so out of character. I'd rather just not even deal with this crap until they patch the game.

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No, their passive abilities are bugged and slowly and permanently lower Hawkes attack speed and damage resistance.


This makes so much sense. I reported something similar in the technical issues forum, but had no idea what the cause was.  Please say that you posted something in that forum. . ..  meh, guess I will.

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Shavon wrote...

Sabresandiego wrote...

No, their passive abilities are bugged and slowly and permanently lower Hawkes attack speed and damage resistance.


This makes so much sense. I reported something similar in the technical issues forum, but had no idea what the cause was.  Please say that you posted something in that forum. . ..  meh, guess I will.


Don't worry about Bioware learning about the bug, as they are already aware of it.

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This never happened to me on PC.

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Alright, I don't have Isabella or Sebastian in my party and I'm having the same problem.  By the end of every fight, my rogue barely has the energy left to lift up a dagger.:unsure:

I'm running a party with Aveline, Anders and Merrill. Now....I almost always use Anders and Aveline (and I have had both of their friendship and rival passive abilities, respectively, for quite some time now) so I'm pretty sure it's not them. I've just started using Merrill and I only recently got her friendship passive ability too so I'm pretty sure she's the culprit.

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RainyDayLover wrote...

Alright, I don't have Isabella or Sebastian in my party and I'm having the same problem.  By the end of every fight, my rogue barely has the energy to lift up a dagger.:unsure:

I'm running a party with Aveline, Anders and Merrill. Now....I almost always use Anders and Aveline (and I have had both of their friendship and rival passive abilities, respectively, for quite some time now) so I'm pretty sure it's not them. I've just started using Merrill and I only recently got her friendship passive ability too so I'm pretty sure she's the culprit.


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Yeah...but I don't use Isabella and she's not in my party when this happens.

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RainyDayLover wrote...

Yeah...but I don't use Isabella and she's not in my party when this happens.


 So you have not used Isabella the whole game?

 So it is impossiblle to have a friendship with her, meaning no "thumbs up"

  If you befriended Izzy early in the game, then save/reloaded in one of the numerous places that causes the bug with her in the party, then "thumbs up" bug will plague you for your entire playthough with her not in you're party. 

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BloodyRaw wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

Yeah...but I don't use Isabella and she's not in my party when this happens.


 So you have not used Isabella the whole game?

 So it is impossiblle to have a friendship with her, meaning no "thumbs up"

  If you befriended Izzy early in the game, then save/reloaded in one of the numerous places that causes the bug with her in the party, then "thumbs up" bug will plague you for your entire playthough with her not in you're party. 


This might be a glitch, but I received the thumbs up ability without ever using her in my party, in fact, by the end of Act 2 I thought she was permanently gone because I even did her "bait" quest without adding her to the party.

I romanced her in Act 2 and had friendship pretty high and then when I challenged Arishok to a duel, I got +15 friendship that put me over the top.

When I looked at my abilities at the beginning of Act 3, it was listed. Later in Act 3, I checked again and it was no longer listed on the page. Now she seems to be available to use as a party member again, but I'm afraid I will get the bug again.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 mars 2011 - 07:53 .


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Good GOD so much mass hysteria concerning glitches. Did this happen in DA:O? I waited to buy that until the Ultimate edition. It was seamless. I have used Isabella, Merrill, and Aveline almost throughout the game, and I am now past chapter 7. I have romanced Isabella and Merrill, but Aveline is a beyotch, but still very near a solid friend. I haven't lost a character yet to death status. These 3 have helped me (Warrior class) kick serious ass. My one mistake was NOT staying neutral with Fenril (sp?) and he has deserted me and cannot be used. One HELL OF A FIGHTER, TOO.

After this playthrough, I am shelving the game until 18 months when it returns fully loaded. I did the same with Oblivion, This BETA TESTING on us consumers is just wrong.

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BY-TOR STORMDRAGON wrote...

Good GOD so much mass hysteria concerning glitches. Did this happen in DA:O? I waited to buy that until the Ultimate edition. It was seamless. I have used Isabella, Merrill, and Aveline almost throughout the game, and I am now past chapter 7. I have romanced Isabella and Merrill, but Aveline is a beyotch, but still very near a solid friend. I haven't lost a character yet to death status. These 3 have helped me (Warrior class) kick serious ass. My one mistake was NOT staying neutral with Fenril (sp?) and he has deserted me and cannot be used. One HELL OF A FIGHTER, TOO.

After this playthrough, I am shelving the game until 18 months when it returns fully loaded. I did the same with Oblivion, This BETA TESTING on us consumers is just wrong.


Chapter?

Chapter 7?

There's chapters?

And there's seven of them?

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naughty99 wrote...

BloodyRaw wrote...

RainyDayLover wrote...

Yeah...but I don't use Isabella and she's not in my party when this happens.


 So you have not used Isabella the whole game?

 So it is impossiblle to have a friendship with her, meaning no "thumbs up"

  If you befriended Izzy early in the game, then save/reloaded in one of the numerous places that causes the bug with her in the party, then "thumbs up" bug will plague you for your entire playthough with her not in you're party. 


This might be a glitch, but I received the thumbs up ability without ever using her in my party, in fact, by the end of Act 2 I thought she was permanently gone because I even did her "bait" quest without adding her to the party.

I romanced her in Act 2 and had friendship pretty high and then when I challenged Arishok to a duel, I got +15 friendship that put me over the top.

When I looked at my abilities at the beginning of Act 3, it was listed. Later in Act 3, I checked again and it was no longer listed on the page. Now she seems to be available to use as a party member again, but I'm afraid I will get the bug again.


 After you romanced her you probably you recieved friendship points, so it is a possiblity that "thumbs up" was activated but of course it never showed up in you're abilites screen.

  It seems during the duel the "thumbs up" might be added to you're ability screen because the game recongnizes her as "being in your party". Pretty much the same was as going to the hawke estate with her in your party and having the "thumbs up" appear in the abilites screen.

  Believe it or not I have not yet beat the game lol, I have 3 toons 2 with the bug and one without. That is why I decided to find the problem in the first place. My mage is about to get into act 2 (isabella almost max friendship, no bug) now, so when I reach the part you are having problems with I will be sure to update you on my findings.

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BY-TOR STORMDRAGON wrote...

Good GOD so much mass hysteria concerning glitches. Did this happen in DA:O? I waited to buy that until the Ultimate edition. It was seamless. I have used Isabella, Merrill, and Aveline almost throughout the game, and I am now past chapter 7. I have romanced Isabella and Merrill, but Aveline is a beyotch, but still very near a solid friend. I haven't lost a character yet to death status. These 3 have helped me (Warrior class) kick serious ass. My one mistake was NOT staying neutral with Fenril (sp?) and he has deserted me and cannot be used. One HELL OF A FIGHTER, TOO.

After this playthrough, I am shelving the game until 18 months when it returns fully loaded. I did the same with Oblivion, This BETA TESTING on us consumers is just wrong.


 I agree man...BW was not always like this though. I remember Kotor, now that game was a freaking blast to the past and I dont remember any dumb glitch either. DA: O had some issues but nothing gamebreaking, nothing like having 27 ability points at level 2 or having you're character about to complete the game move at slow motion...nope nothing like that.

 You waited on oblivion? That was smart lol. There is a vampire bug (you turn to a vampire but cannot revert back) that was game breaking, was fixed on pc and 360...but till this day the ps3 gamers cannot turn into a vamp because the bug was never fixed for that version