I did one of Merril's quests and the Dalish ended up attacking me forcing me to kill them all. I felt pretty bad about it, is there a way to avoid this massacre?
Is it possible to save the Dalish?
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Turnip Root
, mars 16 2011 04:51
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 04:52
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Yes, you have to choose the third option, to assume responsibility.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 04:52
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Cool, I'll keep that in mind for the next playthrough.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:04
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A better option might be to refuse to give Merrill the tool to work on the mirrior. I don't know if she finds a way to get around that, but I know I wouldn't let her keep going with her blood magic again. I'd rather have the keeper alive and Merrill pissed off. Of course, that would leave me as the only mage in the final battle....
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:04
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Rizaun wrote...
Yes, you have to choose the third option, to assume responsibility.
I also did this, after murdering them in my first playthrough....
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:07
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Rizaun wrote...
Yes, you have to choose the third option, to assume responsibility.
I actually did not know that. I wish I had known.
I was going to say that the whole thing felt way too dark it became ridiculous (didn't know we could avoid it). And I don't know if it's a bug, but after I slaughtered the entire clan, Merrill said nothing. And because I flirted a bit, the romance activated and she came by and said that she wants to snuggle but is afraid what her clan might think....
Yea, I am sure the clan would feel pretty bad about you sleeping wih the person who killed them all.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:08
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I didn't mind butchering the elves, stupid na'vi wannabes.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:09
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Man up and take responsibility
Merced elves have been around longer than Na'vi.
Merced elves have been around longer than Na'vi.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:11
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Pileyourbodies wrote...
Man up and take responsibility
Merced elves have been around longer than Na'vi.
No way bro, really? I'm pretty sure Avatar spawned every fantasy setting there is.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:18
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errant_knight wrote...
A better option might be to refuse to give Merrill the tool to work on the mirrior. I don't know if she finds a way to get around that, but I know I wouldn't let her keep going with her blood magic again. I'd rather have the keeper alive and Merrill pissed off. Of course, that would leave me as the only mage in the final battle....
Merrill will stick by you if you have her at 100% rivalry.
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Posté 16 mars 2011 - 05:24
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errant_knight wrote...
A better option might be to refuse to give Merrill the tool to work on the mirrior. I don't know if she finds a way to get around that, but I know I wouldn't let her keep going with her blood magic again. I'd rather have the keeper alive and Merrill pissed off. Of course, that would leave me as the only mage in the final battle....
I tried that on my last play through, she was on the rivalry path from the get go. Still got the quest later about going back to Sundermount, still ended up murdering her whole clan. I'm going to try the "assume responsibility" option next time.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:01
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Rizaun wrote...
Yes, you have to choose the third option, to assume responsibility.
I just had the same problem - good to know there's an option to not kill them ..........................
err but, will I miss out on any unique loot items? I could do with a new staff
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:04
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You just got the Torch of Falon'Din from Marethari.Angelic.....Not wrote...
Rizaun wrote...
Yes, you have to choose the third option, to assume responsibility.
I just had the same problem - good to know there's an option to not kill them ..........................
err but, will I miss out on any unique loot items? I could do with a new staff
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:07
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Just note that you're not actually assuming responsibility for Marethari's death, but merely for looking after Merrill who you still blame for it.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:11
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Rivalmance Merril. It's awesome.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:12
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Pfft, the way the dalish act in this game they deserve to explode into bloody DA2 chunks. But if you do want to save them tell them it was Merrill's fault and you will take responsibility for it (Think it's the third option, the bottom one.)
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:12
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Let's just say that this is... questionable.Skilled Seeker wrote...
Rivalmance Merril. It's awesome.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:18
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Elves actions is their own busines. If they want to die its not my nor Merills fault.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:19
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Ahh, yes, another wonder of the Dialogue wheel.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:22
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TJPags wrote...
Ahh, yes, another wonder of the Dialogue wheel.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
In reality its not clear how things will play out as well.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:22
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Xilizhra wrote...
Let's just say that this is... questionable.Skilled Seeker wrote...
Rivalmance Merril. It's awesome.
I thought it was sweet.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:28
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Jugo616 wrote...
TJPags wrote...
Ahh, yes, another wonder of the Dialogue wheel.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
In reality its not clear how things will play out as well.
Well, exactly.
But IIFC, the three options are:
"Merrill killed her"
"Marathuri attacked us"
"It was my fault"
(Yes, those are based on memory and likely not exact. I think they're reasonably accurate in concept, though).
Now, 1 and 2 lead to the Elves attacking you, yet are essentially accurate descriptions of what happened. Number 3 does not at all explain what happened - IMO, it was not at ALL Hawke's fault - and leads to the elves letting you go.
While you don't know the elves will attack the first time you choose 1 or 2, I really don't see how choosing 3 makes much sense in response to a question about what happened to Marathuri.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:35
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I thought it was... well, to put it kindly, emotionally abusive.PurebredCorn wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Let's just say that this is... questionable.Skilled Seeker wrote...
Rivalmance Merril. It's awesome.
I thought it was sweet.
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 09:42
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TJPags wrote...
Jugo616 wrote...
TJPags wrote...
Ahh, yes, another wonder of the Dialogue wheel.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
In reality its not clear how things will play out as well.
Well, exactly.
But IIFC, the three options are:
"Merrill killed her"
"Marathuri attacked us"
"It was my fault"
(Yes, those are based on memory and likely not exact. I think they're reasonably accurate in concept, though).
Now, 1 and 2 lead to the Elves attacking you, yet are essentially accurate descriptions of what happened. Number 3 does not at all explain what happened - IMO, it was not at ALL Hawke's fault - and leads to the elves letting you go.
While you don't know the elves will attack the first time you choose 1 or 2, I really don't see how choosing 3 makes much sense in response to a question about what happened to Marathuri.
The third option is misleading though. The paraphrase is actually more like "I'll take responsibility," which most would probably interpret as "I'll take responsibility for what happened," but what it actually meant to convey was "I'll take responsibility for Merrill and make sure she never does any stupid **** like this again."
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Posté 22 mai 2011 - 10:00
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Filament wrote...
TJPags wrote...
Jugo616 wrote...
TJPags wrote...
Ahh, yes, another wonder of the Dialogue wheel.
I'm petty sure the third option reads "It was my fault". Not exactly letting you know how that's going to play out.
In reality its not clear how things will play out as well.
Well, exactly.
But IIFC, the three options are:
"Merrill killed her"
"Marathuri attacked us"
"It was my fault"
(Yes, those are based on memory and likely not exact. I think they're reasonably accurate in concept, though).
Now, 1 and 2 lead to the Elves attacking you, yet are essentially accurate descriptions of what happened. Number 3 does not at all explain what happened - IMO, it was not at ALL Hawke's fault - and leads to the elves letting you go.
While you don't know the elves will attack the first time you choose 1 or 2, I really don't see how choosing 3 makes much sense in response to a question about what happened to Marathuri.
The third option is misleading though. The paraphrase is actually more like "I'll take responsibility," which most would probably interpret as "I'll take responsibility for what happened," but what it actually meant to convey was "I'll take responsibility for Merrill and make sure she never does any stupid **** like this again."
True on all counts. And is why I think the dialogue wheel is seriously lacking in games.
