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[LoneWolf4191]

Baron Tyr wrote...

Please no! Not more cry baby Anders garbage.  Give us another woman in a DLC, a new one with a romance option.  I despise Anders & he is the ONLY frakking healer you can employ (unless you are a mage & do it yourself).

Personally I would like to see a female healer (optioned for the entire story).  The game is already guy NPC heavy.

What about Bethany? Can't she heal?

[LoneWolf4191]

sharkheart wrote...

I'd like a DLC with Anders if this and then this happens.

 lol yes XD

[Iles]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
That kind of seems like a hand wave or asspull and i dont think either would really sit right. i think they were trying to accomplish something with the anders/justice story and hit it on the mark, so why would they go back for a "redo" per say?

My point isn't that I want to go back, it is that I want to go on with that story

[MasterSamson88]

Freeing him from Vengeance would kind of kill the reason for his character in DA2.

[Iles]

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Freeing him from Vengeance would kind of kill the reason for his character in DA2.

Freeing
him from Justice would do as you say, freeing both him and Justice from
Vengeance would give him/them the chance of redemption that I think they both deserve.

[Goldens]

Conway044 wrote...
I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but if Anders is alive, Justice is not in the Fade.  It was made pretty clear that the reason Anders agreed to become an abomination was to give Justice a host since he was barred from the Fade somehow. 

If you take Anders on the Fade quest, Justice comes to the fore in him as a distinct separate personality.  I don't see why you couldn't take Anders to the Fade, if he lives, and separate them there through some means.  If Anders doesn't live, some reason could always be invented to explain why Justice is back in the Fade. 

In DA:O, non-mages couldn't enter the Fade. In saving Connor, you had to use a mage NPC if you weren't a mage. Now there's a "recreated Dalish ritual" to get non-mage Hawkes and companions into the Fade.  In other words, pretty much anything can be worked around.  It just depends on what the designers want and are willing to do.

[NinaDA]

Count me in. I'd definitely buy Anders DLC.

[Milana_Saros]

Goldens wrote...

In saving Connor, you had to use a mage NPC if you weren't a mage. Now there's a "recreated Dalish ritual" to get non-mage Hawkes and companions into the Fade.  In other words, pretty much anything can be worked around.  It just depends on what the designers want and are willing to do.

This is what I wondered as well. My rogue Hawke didn't have any problems prancing around in the Fade. What about Faynriel (?) then? He is a Dreamer, supposedly a highly powerful mage, equipped with the skills to alter the Fade. When the Keeper explained his abilities, I immadiately thought he might help Anders. But the subject was never even touched...perhaps, in the future?

[leggywillow]

I think we need some DLC that takes place in the time intervals between the Acts.  Since I know Bioware won't indulge my fangirl side and give me a DLC that lets me exorcise Anders and run away to open a kitten farm, what I'd really like to see is an Anders DLC that takes place between Acts 2 and 3.

His Codex entries hint at an interesting idea for this.  It says that he lost interest in the mage cause after almost killing the mage girl, but by Act 3 he was in full Justice mode again.  Maybe something specific happened to reignite his passion for the cause?  It's an interesting idea, anyway.

[YamiSnuffles]

As much as I would like Anders specific DLC, I would be perfectly content with more general DLC. Something to give more closure and explain a little more what Hawke was up to post-DA2 before he/she disappeared. Then, if you let Anders live and he was still with you, you could still get at least a bit more of a resolution (talk about plans for Justice with him or what have you). That or, as others have mentioned, some DLC that takes place in one of the time skips.

[Nadia]

DLC with Anders would blew my mind:))) he is my favourite character in whole Dragon Age universe I guess, well, in all of the games I played as well.

[The Cannibal Factory]

I'd definitely go for an Anders DLC. He's fascinating as a character.

Either a prequel of his 7 escape attempts from the Ferelden tower (The Great Escape style) or a follow up. I mean, even if your Hawke killed him in DA2, it seems very likely that Justice would have kept him alive. The Spirit kept Wynne alive, possibly beyond her years.... There's no way that was the end of Anders' story.

Sign me up to an Anders' Redemption DLC!

[Amondra]

I would be over that like white on rice! His character was so tragic, it broke my heart really. I wanted to do something. I didn't care if it meant having him and Hawke going all the way to Tevinter(I know I spelt it wrong >.<)

I think after all he and Justice have been through, they both need peace.

[Dave of Canada]

I shanked him.

[Iles]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

As much as I would like Anders specific DLC, I would be perfectly content with more general DLC. Something to give more closure and explain a little more what Hawke was up to post-DA2 before he/she disappeared.

I've got a feeling that it will be a whole expansion, not only a DLC. The ending reminds me too much of NWN2 ending, and after some months Mask of the Betrayer popped out...

Goldens wrote...

In other words, pretty much anything can be worked around.  It just depends on what the designers want and are willing to do.

That's exactly my point. Glad we agree

[ThatDancingTurian]

I'm pretty sure he's said very clearly multiple times throughout the game that they can't be separated. It's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool at this point.

Then again for every line where he said they were one person merged together there was another where he acted like they were separate entities. For instance, telling Isabela flat out that there's no alternate personality that can take over and then... Justice takes him over.

But I blame bad writing for that one.

[Kawamura]

Amondra wrote...

I would be over that like white on rice! His character was so tragic, it broke my heart really. I wanted to do something. I didn't care if it meant having him and Hawke going all the way to Tevinter(I know I spelt it wrong >.<)

I think after all he and Justice have been through, they both need peace.

There can be no peace.

I imagine that, at this point, Justice can't really be removed from Anders. Outside of death.

[Kawamura]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I'm pretty sure he's said very clearly multiple times throughout the game that they can't be separated. It's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool at this point.

Then again for every line where he said they were one person merged together there was another where he acted like they were separate entities. For instance, telling Isabela flat out that there's no alternate personality that can take over and then... Justice takes him over.

But I blame bad writing for that one.

It might be bad writing, it might be the story he tells himself.

Sometimes we tell ourselves things that aren't true and are presented with evidence against them and ... we ignore that evidence completely. Perhaps he wants to believe that Justice and he are inseperable. Perhaps its his way of playing a martyr.

Or maybe it's just silly writing. Very possible.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Kawamura wrote...

It might be bad writing, it might be the story he tells himself.

Sometimes we tell ourselves things that aren't true and are presented with evidence against them and ... we ignore that evidence completely. Perhaps he wants to believe that Justice and he are inseperable. Perhaps its his way of playing a martyr.

Or maybe it's just silly writing. Very possible.

There are also moments that make it clear Justice and Anders are conscious in the body and hearing what others say even when they're not the ones in control, and yet other times it's like they don't remember a thing. It seems like he was just written to be whatever they wanted him to be at that moment, regardless of if it fit with the other pieces of his story.

EDIT: More on-topic... Justice is still in Anders' body in the Fade. I think that means even in the Fade they are merged into one being, it's not like Connor or Feynriel's possessions where they can be seen seperately as demons and killed that way.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 23 mars 2011 - 03:18 .

[Knight of Dane]

I would like a overall DLC to deepen the companions and their development - perhaps even their romances, but specified for Anders? No thanks, I'll probably only keep hin alive in one single of my playthroughs anyway.

[Kawamura]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

It might be bad writing, it might be the story he tells himself.

Sometimes we tell ourselves things that aren't true and are presented with evidence against them and ... we ignore that evidence completely. Perhaps he wants to believe that Justice and he are inseperable. Perhaps its his way of playing a martyr.

Or maybe it's just silly writing. Very possible.

There are also moments that make it clear Justice and Anders are conscious in the body and hearing what others say even when they're not the ones in control, and yet other times it's like they don't remember a thing. It seems like he was just written to be whatever they wanted him to be at that moment, regardless of if it fit with the other pieces of his story.

I got the feeling that Anders' ability to remember things were due to what Justice wanted. If Justice wanted to wrest away controls for awhile, it seems that sometimes Anders is capable of being there and other times Justice... doesn't let him.

Of course, I'm also very willing to overlook issues and "fix" things in my head, so i may not be accurate in remembering.

[Adynata]

At first I was really ticked off by the drastic change in Anders's character, but I find that the amount of time I spent trying to rationalize him and the whole Justice situation means that he is a really interesting character. I don't usually spend so much time thinking about why a video game character did something I specifically insisted he not do! To that end, I would be really interested in seeing the next stage of this. I hope it doesn't end here since it's obvious by the game's end that there's some serious sh** going down b/c of what he did.

[Dragonette29]

Sorry, accindentally posted something in the wrong thread

Modifié par Dragonette29, 23 mars 2011 - 04:20 .

[dantares83]

I think a DLC involving Sebastian leading a march against Anders and the Champion would be cool! I would totally buy that even if I know that EA is prob going to rip me off (again)...

[Sarielle]

I think it cheapens his situation if there's a way to fix it, personally. I found the character compelling (I ended up with only a partial romance -- read: failed, lol -- on my playthrough but I was buds with Anders).

There should be permanent consequences, imo.

And as others have said there's always the fact that some of us killed him. That's how Jubilee "freed" him already. In her mind, her friend had lost the struggle already. So she killed him before he could do anything else.