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[GunClubGirl]

I would be satisfied with them giving us download content that addresses my two main issues: the limited LI and companion exchanges and the recycled and limited maps. If they gave us dlc with brand new areas (no recycled areas, no Deep Roads, etc) and allowed us to interact far more with our LI and companions, maybe an Awakening length dlc and some extras, I would be very happy. Some people have brought up the point that certain companions died so how could we have DLC for them and my response is that Leliana could die in Origins but she still had a dlc pack. You can either load a different save where they didn't die or use the "default" setting where they are still alive, or just skip that dlc pack. Or if the dlc plot doesn't revolve around that companion, they could just be absent for people in whose DA2 save they died. So dlc where I could explore new areas and expand on my romance with Anders and I would be a completely satisfied customer and forgive the flaws in DA2.

[bzombo]

sirianb wrote...

It's probably to late to fix the game with patches, I just want them to not screw up Dragon Age 3.  Origins was better in almost every way, and that was released in 2009! Just get rid of everything they put into Dragon Age 2, and improve upon what Origins did. If it ain't broke don't fix it.. No point in trying to put humpty dumpty back together lol.

hmmm.....i think some things could be done. they could release a patch with new areas and maps to replace a few recycled ones so they get recycled less often. i doubt they'd do it, though.

[belwin]

we won't be "fixing" anything here thanks.

[Begarian]

I don't think Dragon Age 2 warrants a complete overhaul/re-release like Divinity 2 did (that game was freakin' broken). There are several flaws in Dragon Age 2, but it's nowhere near as broken as Divinity 2 was. They can release a few patches that can address some of the problems, tweak some waves, and change a few things, while the community has access to modding the game to bring back what we loved.

[errant_knight]

There's a few bugs that can be fixed with a patch as normal. The other problems with the game originate on a conceptual level and can't be fixed without redoing the game. Better that they do a DLC to give us some kind of closure at the end, then move on to DA3--hopefully using DA:O as a template instead of whatever it was that inspired this.

[Solo80]

Suprez30 wrote...

Solo80 wrote...

Nobody on these forums "hate change". I dare you to find a single person here who hates change in principle - if we'd hated change we would have hated Origins, and thus wouldn't be on these boards 2 years after its release.

Actually 1 years and 4 month . I wonder where those 8 month went?
Actually it's would make more sense saying 1 years than 2.

Yeah, way to focus on the most important part of my post, there.

The point was, the complaints you're seeing now is from people who liked Origins, since the ones who were unhappy with the direction of Origins compared to, say, NWN or BG2, are no longer on this board.

[Daeion]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

No, Origins is not better in almost every way. DA2 has many things that are way better than DA:O. Even the reviewers said it.

Haters...

From a technical stand point yes, most reviewers agree it's better, but most reviewers also feel the game doesn't deliver the same way Origins did.

[Jamesnew2]

DA:O is a hardcore RPG.... they just cant survive in the current market, not enough demand and im a pc player..

But tbh i loved Dragon age 2 so i dont really care...

[Junri]

In my opinion, a toolset would help greatly. DA2 needs one D:

[catofnine]

Svancara wrote...

god i'm getting real sick of threads like this.
The game is here, it's released, finished how they deemed it should be.
You either like it or you don't.
Patches and bug fixes will come in due time, same for DLC with story enhancements.
If you hate it, go and return it and stop making pointless threads about it.

They make pointless threads and repeat themselves ad nauseum in similar topics because they're too emotionally invested in their own disappointment to let go of it.  Misery loves company.  I'm not saying I don't share their complaints, I actually agree with some of them.  I just think they're wasting considerable time and energy trying to shout down a wall. 

@OP:
Love it or hate it, DA2 is a done deal.  No amount of griping and wishful thinking is going to change it at this point.  Most I can hope for is: a) fixes for the game breaking bugs both in this game and DA:O and the release of an updated toolset.   I would rather they do those two things and move on to build a better DA:3 than waste more time retreading the past two years with an "enhanced edition."

[Obadiah]

catofnine wrote...
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I just think they're wasting considerable time and energy trying to shout down a wall. 
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Probably. Bioware released a (complicated!) toolset for Dragon Age: Origins so technically we can create and do whatever we want with that game. If more DA:O is what some people want, I say: go create it and forget DA2 [edit] and don't buy any DA2 DLCs in the hope that Bioware will "fix" the game.

Modifié par Obadiah, 16 mars 2011 - 09:14 .

[DarkWulfy]

Rather than going in and fixing what's already passed, I'd like to see all effort put into making a really solid DAO:2. I would gladly wait 3 years and pay $100 for that. *stops dreaming*

[Marcin K]

DarkWulfy wrote...

Rather than going in and fixing what's already passed, I'd like to see all effort put into making a really solid DAO:2. I would gladly wait 3 years and pay $100 for that. *stops dreaming*

i see something repeating here which is in my opinion wrong as origins cannot happen again as it already happen so the O letter has no right to be
*ends digression*

[DragonRageGT]

Autolycus wrote...

DA:O is a hardcore RPG.... they just cant survive in the current market, not enough demand and im a pc player..

As a hardcore old-school RPG'er myself....I would say 2+million units sold of Origins would counter your argument....

The simple fact is, games like that are as popular as ever, but EA wanted a different core market.

Yay.. the justin bieber audience. Criticize him and they'll hack your website and call you names! "Ew,you smell funny!"

I'd love to have a Champion Specialization and Dual Weapons/Ranged Warriors. Why the frak were they removed from the game? Oh yeah.. it might require some animations and they did rush the release didn't they. Weird that they utilize some DA:O soundtrack score in DA 2 though when so many better things than the score got removed!

[phrizek]

I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who seem to have no problem with the recycled environments. I can't recall any modern game that has so shamelessly reused the same exact areas, without even altering the minimaps, in such a high frequency. It really cheapens an otherwise great game and, at least for me, kills the replay value tremendously.

[Marcin K]

phrizek wrote...

I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who seem to have no problem with the recycled environments. I can't recall any modern game that has so shamelessly reused the same exact areas, without even altering the minimaps, in such a high frequency. It really cheapens an otherwise great game and, at least for me, kills the replay value tremendously.

well to be honest-the amount of recycling shocked me first then i got used to it but BW-YELLOW CARD-do better in DA3

[MWMike2011]

I'm only about probably halfway through the game, and I have yet to find fault with the storyline, to be honest. Yes, I do wish it had a larger world like DA:O had, but that's just a personal opinion. The BIG fault I have right now is that there seems to be a problem in the cinematics. The characters...I don't know how to describe it, they like stretch and contract at times? They kinda jump a little bit, but not really...it's REALLY hard to describe, but I'm sure you guys know what I'm talking about...I hope.

[MWMike2011]

Also, the big thing I thought was an improvement over DA:O was the combat system. I've heard everybody hates it, blah blah blah. Personally, I thought it was great. I had more control over it. The big thing that was a detraction from DA:O (and KOTOR 1 and 2, for that matter) was the combat system, where you just click one button to attack and watch. With this, I'm involved. Yes, the dungeons were reused, but that is just a problem with RPGs in general. I've made peace with that a while back when I first started playing video games that weren't for the Super Nintendo...

I don't see what the ****ing is about. Solid story, much improved conversation system. To me, the biggest problem was the cinematic bugs. I freaked the hell out when I first saw that in the brand new game. I thought it was just my copy...lol

[Serpieri Nei]

BomimoDK wrote...

ikaruga17 wrote...

Origins was one of those game that had old-skool feeling and it was based on those game back in the days and it was my GOTY.

Dragon Age 2- Recycled area's, companions customize are restricted, convowheel and the new "crappy" action system. Its just not the same. Hey, i enjoyed it, but it felt rushed and uncomplete. But why call it Dragon Age "2" ?

Seems that Bioware tried to fix Origins in 1,5 years of development, imo they failed hard.

Origins had a ****ton of recycled areas and serious issues. You're being selective when looking at their flaws. fanboi

So instead of pointing out these rescycled areas, and its serious issues. You decided to call him a fanboi and provide no backing to your post. 

[cueballcb]

 Should they "fix" DA2? No, not really. There are some technical bugs - the game crashes, abilities don't work as intended, etc. - that should be fixed and most of them, I expect, will be. Then there is the shameless use of recycled environemnts and other byproducts of a rushed development cycle. I would be very surprised if those types of "bugs" got "fixed." Dragon Age 2 is what it is and personally I would want them to focus their energies on making a great DA3.

What concerns me is whether or not Bioware is going to be satisfied with making just a 'decent' game when they could have made a truly epic game. Because they are a lot of great ideas embedded in the medioricrity that is Dragon Age 2. For example:

1. Having Hawke take on different personalities depending on the dialogue options you consistently choose was really cool. Being able to ask your companions to jump in at certain points and offer their own expertise was also great, especially if it can lead to new ways to resolve situations that wouldn't otherwise be possible (which I assume is the case, but I'm not sure). However, having only the standard Agreeable/Sarcastic/Direct options to choose from the majority of the time makes the dialogue rather shallow.

2. I know some people hate the waves, but I thought it was a great way to mix up combat and make it more challenging. However, it was clearly overused, which defeated the purpose. If they could have put in a few more ways to vary the combat, it would have helped a lot.

I could go on with a few other ideas, but I'll stop since I've already written a lot. My hope is that Bioware would make some sort of official statement saying that they are still interested in making great games, and not just making decent games that they hope will sell well and make lots of money. My hope is for a truly great Dragon Age 3. And my hope is that I won't get to play it until 2013 or so.

[Chiramu]

I think they should fix Origins problem with filling up your PCs RAM and not refreshing itself.
That is the only reason I don't enjoy playing Origins >.>, it gets gradually slower the longer you play :<.

DA2 is alright to play, but it isn't as easy to play over and over because there aren't as many storylines to play :<.