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[Deylar]

What was the point to bring her back in the game?

It just felt like canon to make the fanboy squeal like pigs. She actually added no wait to the game.

Btw, in the end was that Leiyana I saw?

And if that is Leiyana, where is my Grey Warden? Because I imported my Grey Warden hero Roan's history. And in his history he runs off with Leiyana for adventure and romance.

So, what they broke up? Bull****. That **** is going to pay. 

[SequoiaFr]

Yep, she is so useless in that story. You saw her two times for nothing. You don't learn anything about Morrigan or about her (expect that she is known by elves too, yeah !)
And Leliana at the end... Same thing, you just know that she wants to find Hawk, but why, not a clue ... I don't know why we have to import our last savegame from DA:O ^^

Modifié par SéquoiaFr, 16 mars 2011 - 08:50 .

[Deylar]

Yeah Flemmeth was not needed in this game she added no value. Was her value to preach destiny and fate lines at me?

Still, I had the romantic dream that Roan my rogue smarmy, charming, Grey Warden ran off with Leliana. And now Bioware broke my dreams because he's nowhere.

And Leliana wasn't even in awakening with Roan.

I feel upset. I spent ages with Leliana. I even ended up in the bed with her. And she breaks my heart.

[Deadlysyns]

i agree on both things they totally destroyed Dragon Age Origins Story with Dragon Age 2 like if you killed people who Reappear besides Flemmeth whats the point in making a game that imports a storyline if it only imports bits and peices

[Zambling]

If you don't remember, Flemeth was only in this game so she could get "reborn" with that amulet that you delivered to the shrine. I guess you resurrected her true form back together and that was the point of her appearance so she can be in DLC and series again.  Plus Morrigan even warns the Hero Warden that Flemeth will find a way to come back to this world to come eat her babies, that is why u gave her the grimoire to protect or to make the newborn baby a uber old/new god that owns Thedas lol.  The Eleven elder seems to have known her and made a "promise" with her long time ago... something with the mirror? Infact isn't Flemeth spoke as an old god, I forgot her Eleven name that they call her and she does have many names.

Anyways im sure Biowares intention for the story of Origins is for your Warden to romance Morrigan that is why their is "A Dark Promise" achievement and the DLC they released so you can see what happened to your Warden and how he is with Morrigin in that mirror somewhere.

Im guessin Flemeth had no time for Champion right now since she is on the hunt for Morrigan to consume her and possibility her and your old wardens baby for immense power and maybe be the one to bring the Trevinter Imperium back. There you go.

Modifié par Zambling, 16 mars 2011 - 08:48 .

[Deadlysyns]

So another Question Who was Flemeths Appointment with if it was with the Warden i know she knows you will come back but whats the point in trying to convince the warden to not kill her why not run and hide or something until the time comes when Morrigan had her baby and swoop down Eat Morrigan Raise the OGB and Destroy the world also if your Warden chooses not to kill her then there would now be two Flemeths wandering around 

Modifié par Deadlysyns, 16 mars 2011 - 08:52 .

[Deylar]

But Roan didn't Romance Morrigan.

And he even Killed Flemmeth.

So it confuses my timeline.

[Deadlysyns]

I say they tried to hard with the Choices in DAO not considering it might ruin DA2

[Deylar]

Its like they butt raped me. And only now am I feeling a little fuzzy about the details. I was drugged, taken to a back alley and now I am being told what's true.

[Zambling]

Deylar wrote...

But Roan didn't Romance Morrigan.

And he even Killed Flemmeth.

So it confuses my timeline.

you confused your timeline because Bioware clearly was directing the story to romancing Morrigan, it would have questions to your answers.  No game developer is going to take the time to make a whole entire game on the decessions that you made in your first game, its way way way to much work and completely unneccassary since most players are not going to do the 25 (random number probly more) playthroughs just to see how your hero will progress if he chose a Dalish mage elf that romanced Zevran and then seeing your Warden with Zevran when you meet him with the antivan.  They did not ruin the series, they made it so much better by lessening the possibilities and endings all to one core.  Noone knows who Flemeth met with after you released her, DLC and DA3 will explain most likely.  Im guessing the old god baby to eat and morrigan, then reign havic upon Roan and Lelianda cuddling together in a warm sleeping bag roasting marshmellows.

It destroys the whole purpose of the entire concept and storyline of the series that Bioware wants us to find out.  Having pointless and infinite amount of endings doesn't answer or lead to major questions as to why Hawke and your Warden disappeared and where Flemeth went and the war between the mages and templars that are happening in all of Thedas and the Chantries involvement and Morrigans baby with the dlc. Quality not Quantity my friend..

Modifié par Zambling, 16 mars 2011 - 09:04 .

[DiablosShadows]

Deylar wrote...

But Roan didn't Romance Morrigan.

And he even Killed Flemmeth.

So it confuses my timeline.

Bioware doesnt care about Roan they care only about telling a good story thats what they are good at.

[Deadlysyns]

i Agree but they could of made sure the Decisions you made would have an Affect for Example Amranthine was good if they wanted you to do the dark Ritual just make your Character do it like in the second one

[Deadlysyns]

DiablosShadows wrote...

Deylar wrote...

But Roan didn't Romance Morrigan.

And he even Killed Flemmeth.

So it confuses my timeline.

Bioware doesnt care about Roan they care only about telling a good story thats what they are good at.

but if this does turn out to be some God/Maker Returning storyline was it really that good and not just a spin on Christianity and other religions 

[Deylar]

Zambling wrote...
you confused your timeline 

Roan was my very First Warden.

The Warden I made when I first opened the package of DAO. I didn't like Morrigana and found myself charmed by Lelianna. But I was friends with Morrigana.

But my first play through was with Leliana. She was so more intriguing than Morgana.

And that's b.s. and you know it.

Don't give me multiple choices of romance, if you just wanted me to romance one woman in the whole entire game. Shoot Morgana's baby is Alistair's kid. Not my Wardens.

[Deadlysyns]

i Agree they should of thought more about DAO storyline it was jumpy this is why i consider DA2 to be the actual first Game in the Series

[DiablosShadows]

Deylar wrote...

Zambling wrote...
you confused your timeline 

Roan was my very First Warden.

The Warden I made when I first opened the package of DAO. I didn't like Morrigana and found myself charmed by Lelianna. But I was friends with Morrigana.

But my first play through was with Leliana. She was so more intriguing than Morgana.

And that's b.s. and you know it.

Don't give me multiple choices of romance, if you just wanted me to romance one woman in the whole entire game. Shoot Morgana's baby is Alistair's kid. Not my Wardens.

That wouldnt work cuz you cant play Alistair in Witch Hunt He cant go thru the mirror.

[Zambling]

Deylar wrote...

Roan was my very First Warden.

The Warden I made when I first opened the package of DAO. I didn't like Morrigana and found myself charmed by Lelianna. But I was friends with Morrigana.

But my first play through was with Leliana. She was so more intriguing than Morgana.

And that's b.s. and you know it.

Don't give me multiple choices of romance, if you just wanted me to romance one woman in the whole entire game. Shoot Morgana's baby is Alistair's kid. Not my Wardens.

Im sorry that allmighty Bioware did not sacrifice blood sweet and tears on making Roan marry Leliana and have 3 kids running around  and then retiring from the Grey Wardens to go play hop skotch with his dog.  I really do not care for who I romanced in origins, I just want to find out the answers to the major questions that I have already asked, not if my relationship is still well with Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran right now.  They released Witch Hunt DLC and A Dark Promise achievement for a reason.  To continue the story of the Warden and Champion and how his followers are part of the big picture with Mages, Templars, Qunari, Old gods, and Flemeth with Morrigan.

[Deadlysyns]

Zambling wrote...

Deylar wrote...

Roan was my very First Warden.

The Warden I made when I first opened the package of DAO. I didn't like Morrigana and found myself charmed by Lelianna. But I was friends with Morrigana.

But my first play through was with Leliana. She was so more intriguing than Morgana.

And that's b.s. and you know it.

Don't give me multiple choices of romance, if you just wanted me to romance one woman in the whole entire game. Shoot Morgana's baby is Alistair's kid. Not my Wardens.

Im sorry that allmighty Bioware did not sacrifice blood sweet and tears on making Roan marry Leliana and have 3 kids running around  and then retiring from the Grey Wardens to go play hop skotch with his dog.  I really do not care for who I romanced in origins, I just want to find out the answers to the major questions that I have already asked, not if my relationship is still well with Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran right now.  They released Witch Hunt DLC and A Dark Promise achievement for a reason.  To continue the story of the Warden and Champion and how his followers are part of the big picture with Mages, Templars, Qunari, Old gods, and Flemeth with Morrigan.

Yes i concur to a point i enjoy the fact nothing else can be Concluded how else does a warden just disappear except by fleeing with Morrigan and were not sure the Champion isn't just hiding somewhere else but i can assure you the Warden is far far far away 

[Zambling]

Origins was the first game to introduce you to everything of Dragon Age lore, without it Dragon age 2 would make absolutely no sense and they did a very amazing job on both and piecing them together to make a masterpiece of a series. DA3 will be continuing the story that they want you to know, the major "important" stuff not minor details. Sure some more origins should have played into DA2 but im not complaining on the overall story and how the whole world knows the Champion now.

[Deadlysyns]

Zambling wrote...

Origins was the first game to introduce you to everything of Dragon Age lore, without it Dragon age 2 would make absolutely no sense and they did a very amazing job on both and piecing them together to make a masterpiece of a series. DA3 will be continuing the story that they want you to know, the major "important" stuff not minor details. Sure some more origins should have played into DA2 but im not complaining on the overall story and how the whole world knows the Champion now.

Actually the way they did it Dragon age 2 made perfect Sense without playing Origins i Mean Varric Covered the important Details in his story and they little side quests etc did more to affirm that 

[jfp2004]

I liked her initial appearance. It was an interesting encounter.

I don't care for her appearance after that, though. It's mostly just purely set-up for future games, and while that's fine, I would have liked to have had more with her before that happens. It didn't really have much purpose aside from setup, which is a shame, because there was a lot of potential there.

[Deylar]

Zambling wrote...
Im sorry that allmighty Bioware did not sacrifice blood sweet and tears on making Roan marry Leliana and have 3 kids running around  and then retiring from the Grey Wardens to go play hop skotch with his dog.  I really do not care for who I romanced in origins, I just want to find out the answers to the major questions that I have already asked, not if my relationship is still well with Morrigan, Leliana, and Zevran right now.  They released Witch Hunt DLC and A Dark Promise achievement for a reason.  To continue the story of the Warden and Champion and how his followers are part of the big picture with Mages, Templars, Qunari, Old gods, and Flemeth with Morrigan.

Yeah well. In Origins they made me assume we had run off married and had three kids.

So sorry I get confused.

[Captain Iglo]

I think its simply important for part 3 and will make more sense then.

[ShandraLover]

It doesn't matter if you killed Flemeth or not in Origins, what you killed was no more than a useless husk. Morrigan herself wouldn't notice a difference if she were to go with you and kill Flemeth. She had Hawke bring the amulet with what I'm assuming is her real form and not the husk in Origins; as to the appointment, I believe the trailers for DA2 point exactly what her appointment is.

[Deylar]

Egh.

I just don't like feeling like I am part of an elaborate joke.