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[styx971]

Zambling wrote...



Anyways im sure Biowares intention for the story of Origins is for your Warden to romance Morrigan that is why their is "A Dark Promise" achievement and the DLC they released so you can see what happened to your Warden and how he is with Morrigin in that mirror somewhere.

Im guessin Flemeth had no time for Champion right now since she is on the hunt for Morrigan to consume her and possibility her and your old wardens baby for immense power and maybe be the one to bring the Trevinter Imperium back. There you go.

your forgetting the fact that...

1.  not all ppl playing the warden play as a male that can romance morrigan.
2.  there were options other than morigan for males
3 you didn't have to do the ritual in origans you can pick to have alistar  or you can chioce to die ect. 
4. not everyone buys dlc

[Zambling]

Deylar wrote...

Egh.

I just don't like feeling like I am part of an elaborate joke.

your making yourself into an elaborate joke.  You are very wrong with Varrics openning tale all it explains is the witch of the wilds, and the darkspawn invasion and how King cailan lies dead betrayed by his loyal friend.  That does not summarize anything about Origins or any of the highlights of the storyline of Origins.  You are very wrong and I advise you to watch the opening scene again or play dragon age origins over again, I had to because I deleted it off my harddrive not knowing you could import it into dragon age 2.  So please stop whinning about how you can't be with leilanna, pretty sure she backstabs your Warden somehow and also the Champion because the Seeker is looking for them aswell as the Chantries of Thedas. 

The story of dragon age is linear, its not meant to differ because your Hero of Ferrelldin was a male or female.  Then why put Flemeth into this game, she has no purpose either does Morrigan and Merrins quest for the mirror and the talk of Flemeth.  I am sure Bioware will find a way to connect everything, they have along time to do that if not done already.  They would have not wasted time and a story line with DLC just about Morrigan and she is mentioned in the DA2 that Flemeth must reconnect with her,  Origin players who romanced Morrigan and found out their relationship know that she needs to eat Morrigan and that was the plan for Flemeth to allow Morrigan to adventure with the Warden.  They did not mention anything about if Morrigan found a way to counter this just the DLC with the mirror and the baby.  This will be apart of the DA series because they would not mention it if it had no purpose.  Comman sense, who cares if your Warden didn't have kids with Zevran or Leilanna, if they wanted the DA series to follow that, their would be an abrupt end forever.  

Modifié par Zambling, 16 mars 2011 - 10:08 .

[AlexXIV]

I think Flemeth had quite some wait in the game.

[Deylar]

styx971 wrote...
your forgetting the fact that...

1.  not all ppl playing the warden play as a male that can romance morrigan.
2.  there were options other than morigan for males
3 you didn't have to do the ritual in origans you can pick to have alistar  or you can chioce to die ect. 
4. not everyone buys dlc

Thank you.

When I don't have the money to buy DLC and for the fact that I don't see the point in DLC.

Either its put into the game or not.

All content or none.

[styx971]

Deylar wrote...

styx971 wrote...
your forgetting the fact that...

1.  not all ppl playing the warden play as a male that can romance morrigan.
2.  there were options other than morigan for males
3 you didn't have to do the ritual in origans you can pick to have alistar  or you can chioce to die ect. 
4. not everyone buys dlc

Thank you.

When I don't have the money to buy DLC and for the fact that I don't see the point in DLC.

Either its put into the game or not.

All content or none.

 i don't like dlc either i mean it i haven't played the game yet and it looks good  sure maybe i will but when it comes out so far after its like whats the point not to say that it didn't but normaly i don't replay games enough and when its been so long after its like ehh  

 on the point of all the dlc for 2  i wish i didn't preorder pc version it came with hate they way it played on pc get 360 version and buy dlc for it expectilly release date dlc when it wasn't worth the pricetag

[Zambling]

I did not buy the DLC but watched videos on them, yes I would agree they are not worth the cash for and very short. I would imagine Awakenings is worth it but never got around to it.

Clearly we do not know what happened to the Hero of Fereldin or Hawke but we know that they have disappeared with the Chantry urging to find them so they can bring control to the mages again and the war. The hero of Fereldin will be forsure returning to the DA series because why would they mention him at the end of the game.

Minor details are your hero wardens past relationships im sure Bioware tried their best to address them but felt that what they ended up with was not something they could make a successful title from. Dragon age is a linear game, your path is set infront of you, u chose how you want your hero to appear and act but the story line is linear and will be always. Leilanna is working with the Chantry and I am guessing not loyal anymore towards the old Warden or Champion.

Modifié par Zambling, 16 mars 2011 - 10:25 .

[Deylar]

But the thing is Origins, the original Dragon Age Origins. Opened itself and sold its franchise as an open world experience.
And now Bioware is pointing and laughing at me saying: "This game be linear, cry ****, cry"

[styx971]

Zambling wrote...

 

Minor details are your hero wardens past relationships im sure Bioware tried their best to address them but felt that what they ended up with was not something they could make a successful title from. Dragon age is a linear game, your path is set infront of you, u chose how you want your hero to appear and act but the story line is linear and will be always. Leilanna is working with the Chantry and I am guessing not loyal anymore towards the old Warden or Champion.

yeah its a linear game for the most part BUT your chioces are supost to shape it  thats why you import a game save  on the original topic of flemmeth they did a good job reasoning why she was alive  now why she looked the way she did idk but whatever on that ..  bioware doesn't even have to adress things like the leilanna thing they could have just used a differant character for it easy fix  but they didn't 

[styx971]

Deylar wrote...

But the thing is Origins, the original Dragon Age Origins. Opened itself and sold its franchise as an open world experience.
And now Bioware is pointing and laughing at me saying: "This game be linear, cry ****, cry"

yep  least in origins you got to pick what you were gonna do next even if the end was you were gonna fight the dragon you get ppl different time  like wyne for example you could do mages tower last in order so you wouldn't have her each place you go  

[Deylar]

styx971 wrote...
yep  least in origins you got to pick what you were gonna do next even if the end was you were gonna fight the dragon you get ppl different time  like wyne for example you could do mages tower last in order so you wouldn't have her each place you go  

Exactly.

[getnitdunn]

this whole game felt like its setting up for a bigger plot. flemeth will either be concluded in a DLC OR later in the Dragon Age series.

[getnitdunn]

Deadlysyns wrote...

So another Question Who was Flemeths Appointment with if it was with the Warden i know she knows you will come back but whats the point in trying to convince the warden to not kill her why not run and hide or something until the time comes when Morrigan had her baby and swoop down Eat Morrigan Raise the OGB and Destroy the world also if your Warden chooses not to kill her then there would now be two Flemeths wandering around 

i think it is assumed that the flemeth in DA:O died.  in DA2 flemeth says "and if i know my morrigan well, it already happened" meaning morrigan already killed flemeth, whether with the grey warden or not.  i dunno just speculating =D

[-Zorph-]

She was crucial in Dragon Age 2.

It shows us she is interested in Hawke similar to our Warden and Maric, which may lead to Hawke's disappearance. It also tells us that when we kill her in DA:O she doesn't die since Hawke was transporting a part of her.

[Shadedclan]

I think Flemeth knew all this and did some things so this would happen. Maybe a DLC to explain all of this?

[IverseaKnight]

In Origins, talking to Morrigan and Flemeth (and talking to Flemeth in DA2) makes it clear that sending Morrigan out with the Warden was INTENDED to end up with Flemeth being 'killed' by the Warden, most likely because she was guiding Morrigan towards learning about the ritual to get the archdemon's tainted soul into a child to purify it. So after she's sent the Warden, Morrigan, and Alistair off she notices the Champion's party trying to fight their way through the horde, wonders if it's only chance or if she's found another piece of the puzzle (what puzzle hasn't been made clear yet, just the edge pieces), then decides to chance using the Champion as her safety net (getting the amulet to folks who can use it to reembody her).

So, Flemeth wanted Morrigan to learn about and then get that kid. This kid is most likely the 'He' spoken of in various mentioned of prophecies of magic returning in strength in both games (statue in mage origin and Sandal in DA2).

Ok, so Flemeth didn't have a directly crucial role in the core DA2 story arc. But her role isn't to play large parts, it's to find the ones that will. She's the chessmaster out finding her pieces.