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Could Bioware Be So Ambitious?


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otis0310

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The ending of the game said that the Warden and Hawke both disappeared and that this is not a coincidence.

This proably means that both characters have something to do with the sequel. If both characters play a pivotol role in the game that could lead to a very interesting thing. You import a saved game to Dragon Age 3, and you are given a choice, you either a: Resume the role of Hawk and help clean up the problem or B:  Since the Warden is also an important figure, you can resume that role instead.

I doubt Bioware would ever attempt something like that. Bioware makes big epic stories and games on a grander scale than almost any other company.  If they could pull that off it would be the most ambitious game ever made by far.  Although I do not like to praise any company or person to the point of sounding like a worshipper, I would be forced to stand in awe of someone who could pull that off!

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Snowball meet Hell.

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otis0310 wrote...

The ending of the game said that the Warden and Hawke both disappeared and that this is not a coincidence.

This proably means that both characters have something to do with the sequel. If both characters play a pivotol role in the game that could lead to a very interesting thing. You import a saved game to Dragon Age 3, and you are given a choice, you either a: Resume the role of Hawk and help clean up the problem or B:  Since the Warden is also an important figure, you can resume that role instead.

I doubt Bioware would ever attempt something like that. Bioware makes big epic stories and games on a grander scale than almost any other company.  If they could pull that off it would be the most ambitious game ever made by far.  Although I do not like to praise any company or person to the point of sounding like a worshipper, I would be forced to stand in awe of someone who could pull that off!


Not. A. Chance.

Remember Dragon Age 2? The game that just came out? Remember the near criminal lack of ambition there? I don't think one can reasonably expect better out of DA3. 

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Dragon Age 2 has good graphics and good story. But you are right, is not by any stretch of the imagination ambitous, They do not try to do things no one else did and they take few chances. Very straightforward, but no real "I didn't think games could do what you did" reaction. On the point of pushing what games and programs can do, Sims 3 is ambitious. However, only on the surface, there are numerous short cuts they made do laziness or a general belief it wasn't worth the effort. The great epic things they pulled off with Sims 3 is mostly smoke and mirrors, and DA2 can't even rival that.

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Hmm the Warden and Hawke. I am not sure a single game can handle that much awesomeness.

Modifié par MrDizaztar, 16 mars 2011 - 04:37 .


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Mox Ruuga

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No.

And I'm betting (and hoping) we'll get a new protagonist for DA3.

DA:O -> The Warden
DA2 -> The Champion
DA3 -> The Seeker(?)

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Freed Old god in DA3

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You'll never get to play the Warden again. There are just way too many variations on the character to account for.

Personally, I'd have rather had DA2 not end on a cliffhanger (or at least Hawke's story not end in a cliffhanger) and we'd play yet another new hero in DA3.

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It looks more like a new protagonist that will somehow get involved in how they went missing will be the general story of DA3. At least imo.

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otis0310

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Given the ending and the Chantry's urgent need to find Hawk, I think Hawk has to return. There is too much emphasis on "needing him/her" at the end. Lelliana does say we must leave it up to the maker, but I think the Cahntry is bent on Hawk as the central figure in the whole thing, and that he/she must be the one to end it.

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It seems like Lelianna is involved in DA3. I think Seeker is the best bet for DA3 (with apologies to Terry Goodkind for using the same name with different purpose entirely)

My point was, however, that if they bring back Leliana and Wardens had a romance with her and then she becomes a romance option for the new Seeker ... that would be kinda lame. So, I guess I want my cake and eat it too, Let us start out at Level 25-30 as Warden and with Leliana in the party and uh .... go on to epic goodness.

But yes, I would settle for Seeker. (without the Sword of Truth and no equally defining item) plus the option of playing as elf, dwarf or human.

Right.

And as Isabella says so well: Would you also like me to make pigs fly?

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If the next PC turns out to be a Seeker, I'm legally obligated to name mine Richard. :lol:

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I could see Hawke, and the Warden playing a role, even being brought into the game as squadies, but I think you'll be playing as someone else, most likely a Seeker thats out for the two of them.

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There's also the possibility for some of this stuff with Lelianna trying to find Hawke playing out in future DA2 DLC. I suppose there's a chance that they'd turn Hawke into the Commander Shepard of Dragon Age at this point (now that they don't have as many variables for the protagonist as Origins had). They did make a fairly significant design philosophy change from Origins to DA2. But I would still guess that a new protagonist is more likely.

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I dunno about all that, but if this game is the last we see of Hawke, I'll be disappointed :(

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think kotor 1 and 2.
it lead to nothing

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If we have a "Seeker", I'm naming mine Cara. Even if she wasn't one. I don't think we'll ever see anything like a Mord-sith in Dragon Age. Though they'd be awesome. Then again, in that crowd of Seekers, were any male? I need to watch that cut scene again.

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I'm pretty sure they're setting up the Seeker from the narration (Cassandra) as a companion for DA3.

As for Hawke... three options:
1) Not in the game--his tale gets wrapped up in DA2 DLC.

2) The main character again.

3) In the game, but not playable or a companion. As an NPC, his behavior is somewhat based on how you tended to reply in DA2 (if imported), since I believe they already have some functionality like this in DA2 (I felt like my Hawke tended to give sarcastic/charming responses a lot my first play through, even when not selected and in my second play through, Hawke is a bit more rude).

4) As a second main character. It would be interesting to see how they let you handle controlling multiple characters responses in conversation; or perhaps you have two parties that don't cross paths. Or even three... they could have you control a character with Leliana and the Seeker who is searching for the Warden and Hawke. Whenever you meet someone who knows something, you go into a flashback where you control Warden or Hawke and their party for those events. At the end the three stories intertwine.

Most likely it would be 1 or 2. But 4 could be epic.

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Imagine Hawke talking to the warden.

Hawke: So, how's it going, after killing that archdemon and all?

Warden: *Blank Stare*

Hawke: You mute?

Warden: *Blank Stare*

Hawke: Okay I get it, you don't want to talk.

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^ Sarcastic Hawke might end that with "You want a sandwich?" :lol:

I'm really hoping for Hawke again. Before DA2 was released I was happy with how Awakenings tied up my Warden's story and it allowed me to accept playing as Hawke. Now I'm quite attached to my LadyHawke and definitely want more adventures with her, be it in an expansion, DA3 or both.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 17 mars 2011 - 09:45 .


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The Seeker.

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The hero of Ferelden/warden might very well be dead for many people.
He/she won't return.

I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that Morrigan's god-child will have a role in DA3 (either hero or villain).
I know they said it's not canon but BioWare has made bigger leaps in logic/canon lore.

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It would be interesting for the seeker to find the warden and hawke seeking the god child, have them band together and voila

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I'm fairly sure you'll be playing a new named main character. I would expect Hawke to feature in it somewhere but I very much doubt he'll be a companion. The Warden I doubt we'll ever see again, despite him being discussed in the same vein as Hawke at the end its just too much of a technical barrier to ever implement him/her as an NPC.

But lets not forget Hawke's tale is not yet done. If the ending to DA2 seems insufficient its because its not really an ending: Origins was different in that your Warden could potentially die, which made the Awakening expansion a lot more standalone in terms of plot. Hawke is definately not dead, and so expansions for DA2 will carry on his story directly. How this ends will define any possible role Hawke has to play in DA3.

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Evil Asch

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I just hope it doesn't wind up with either the warden or hawke telling us/the new character what missions to go on etc and basically being the quest master. That would blow chunks